How many turns of the Wheel

looking · 02-14-2008, 03:03 PM

Coming from the STi, it's only 2.5 turn on the steering wheel
from lock to lock, what is it on the the 135?

Evolved · 02-14-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by excel

Coming from the STi, it's only 2.5 turn on the steering wheel
from lock to lock, what is it on the the 135?

Curios as well. The steering on the Evo is going to be tough to beat. 2 turns lock to lock and a 13:1 ratio.

looking · 02-14-2008, 06:13 PM

^^^

hope it's not like driving a bus! hahah

JT-KGY · 02-20-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by excel

^^^

hope it's not like driving a bus! hahah

HUH? :iono:

Bringinthewolf · 02-20-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Evolved

Curios as well. The steering on the Evo is going to be tough to beat. 2 turns lock to lock and a 13:1 ratio.

Active Steering option has got that beat

Cal · 02-20-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bringinthewolf

Active Steering option has got that beat

+1.

looking · 02-20-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JT-KGY

HUH? :iono:

If you've ever driven a bus or a truck, it seems to take 100+ turns of the wheel to move the vehicle to the left or right....

atr_hugo · 02-20-2008, 07:00 AM

I'm not sure I've seen what lock-to-lock is for the 135i (I also suspect the 128i has a 'slower' ratio). But I don't see how it would be more than about three turns lock-to-lock.

Power assisted rack and pinion steering doesn't need the huge diameter steering wheels and slow ratios that manual recirculating ball steering units needed, however.

As far as whether or not to get active steering, try both before deciding. Personally I don't want the extra fiddly bits that the active steering mechanism puts in the steering column.

ct323i · 02-20-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

As far as whether or not to get active steering, try both before deciding. Personally I don't want the extra fiddly bits that the active steering mechanism puts in the steering column.

exactly! that's why I didn't get it. my friend that has worked for BMW dealership bodyshop for 10 years says active steering is like driving a 7-series, easier to steer but feels totally disconnected from the car.

Numb3rs · 02-20-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by excel

Coming from the STi, it's only 2.5 turn on the steering wheel
from lock to lock, what is it on the the 135?

The 135i has available active steering. In parking lots, it wouldn't be more than 1.5 turns. The ratio gets pretty big.

ErikB · 02-20-2008, 11:20 AM

A bit off topic, but has anyone seen the turning circle specs? I haven't seen any yet.

Bringinthewolf · 02-20-2008, 01:47 PM

From what I have read the Active Steering system has been refined over the past few years and has been further refined specifically for the 1. I test drove a 2008 540i and liked it enough to order it on my 1. I can understand not wanting it on the track but the closest my 135i will ever get to the track is the S2S hwy to Whistler

stu@motivemag · 02-20-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ErikB

A bit off topic, but has anyone seen the turning circle specs? I haven't seen any yet.

Turning circle specs from the US press kit: 35.1 feet for both 128i and 135i. Sorry, but no numbers are listed for lock-to-lock rotations.

Evolved · 02-20-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bringinthewolf

Active Steering option has got that beat

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Originally Posted by Cal

+1.

How so? Also most people advise against active steering.

BForbes · 02-20-2008, 05:54 PM

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsieroll pop??? haha...sorry I had too.

AwesomeBMW · 02-20-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsieroll pop??? haha...sorry I had too.

http://www.tootsie.com/memoriesLicksMachine.html

apparently there's a answer. Who woulda thought?

ErikB · 02-21-2008, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stu@motivemag

Turning circle specs from the US press kit: 35.1 feet for both 128i and 135i. Sorry, but no numbers are listed for lock-to-lock rotations.

Cool, thanks Stu

AwesomeBMW · 04-01-2008, 04:32 PM

From the May 08 Car and Driver:

steering ratio 16:1
turns lock-to-lock: 2.7
Turning circle curb to curb: 35.1 ft

black135 · 04-02-2008, 01:17 AM

It's not really fair to compare the STI and 1er in this way. STI is all wheel drive and will always have less front wheel steering range than a rear wheel drive car.

looking · 04-02-2008, 11:26 AM

^^^

I wasn't really comparing the STi and the 1 - was using the STi more as an example.

AwesomeBMW - great find, both from C/D and the tootsie pop! hahah

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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure I've seen what lock-to-lock is for the 135i (I also suspect the 128i has a 'slower' ratio). But I don't see how it would be more than about three turns lock-to-lock. Power assisted rack and pinion steering doesn't need the huge diameter steering wheels and slow ratios that manual recirculating ball steering units needed, however. As far as whether or not to get active steering, try both before deciding. Personally I don't want the extra fiddly bits that the active steering mechanism puts in the steering column.
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ErikB Private First Class 61 Rep 103 Posts Drives: 2018 F36 440ix Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sacramento, Ca iTrader: (0)	A bit off topic, but has anyone seen the turning circle specs? I haven't seen any yet.
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Bringinthewolf 1 for the road 20 Rep 780 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Cabrio Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vancouver, B.C. iTrader: (0)	From what I have read the Active Steering system has been refined over the past few years and has been further refined specifically for the 1. I test drove a 2008 540i and liked it enough to order it on my 1. I can understand not wanting it on the track but the closest my 135i will ever get to the track is the S2S hwy to Whistler
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AwesomeBMW Freude am Fahren 17 Rep 388 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	From the May 08 Car and Driver: steering ratio 16:1 turns lock-to-lock: 2.7 Turning circle curb to curb: 35.1 ft __________________ "Oversteer is best because you don't see the tree that kills you" -- Richard Hammond
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black135 Private 2 Rep 98 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	It's not really fair to compare the STI and 1er in this way. STI is all wheel drive and will always have less front wheel steering range than a rear wheel drive car. __________________ ------------------------------------ I don't like eucalyptus trees
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looking Captain 35 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^^ I wasn't really comparing the STi and the 1 - was using the STi more as an example. AwesomeBMW - great find, both from C/D and the tootsie pop! hahah
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