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      10-12-2017, 11:17 AM   #89
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Dunno, but I've seen dozens of YouTube videos which indicate otherwise.
Meaning what, exactly?
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If it is not on you, you're doing it wrong.

Keep it in a holster on your hip/appendix/shoulder what ever, or in holster in your pocket.

Never leave an unsecured (not in a safe) gun in a vehicle.

The reasons should be obvious.

If you choose to carry a gun, this is your religion.
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Meaning what, exactly?
Meaning it's not as risk free as some here would suggest.
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Meaning it's not as risk free as some here would suggest.
Nothing is risk free. The handful of incidents where cops have reacted poorly to carriers is probably comparable to the number of people who are attacked by sharks.

Yes, if things go bad they can have terrible consequences, I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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Interesting. Just curious (in case Canada were to ever allow open-carry) as to the chronology of such an encounter.
1. You get pulled over for some minor offence or broken tail light;
2. Officer asks for your license & registration;
3. You tell officer you have a firearm;
4. You continue to keep hands on steering wheel and visible at all times.

So how do you comply with his 1st order - which is to produce your lic & reg and continue to keep you hands visible?
You can just hand the officer your conceal carry license with your ID and insurance.

Moral of the story here is you don't want the LEO finding out you have a firearm before you tell him/her.
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You can just hand the officer your conceal carry license with your ID and insurance.

Moral of the story here is you don't want the LEO finding out you have a firearm before you tell him/her.
Sounds like you are offering different advice than the protocol suggested by the "Concealed Nation" or from a CWP instructor on the "Beretta Blog".
Still sounds (to me) like there is more risk involved in a police stop than some are suggesting here.

http://concealednation.org/2013/07/t...e-pulled-over/

http://blog.beretta.com/how-to-handl...oncealed-carry
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Sounds like you are offering different advice than the protocol suggested by the "Concealed Nation" or from a CWP instructor on the "Beretta Blog".
I don't think there's any difference at all. The links and the post you quoted say essentially the same thing:

1) Create a relaxed situation where the officer is able to see that you are not a threat. (Anyone who is stopped should take this approach, armed or not.)

2) Calmly inform the officer that you are in possession of a lawful firearm and make it clear that you will comply with any orders the officer feels are necessary for his/her safety. That could be accomplished by verbally informing the officer or providing a carry license.

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Still sounds (to me) like there is more risk involved in a police stop than some are suggesting here.
There's risk involved in every traffic stop. Officers are always on the lookout for furtive movements that might indicate someone is reaching for a weapon or trying to hide evidence; there are other circumstances where an officer is killed or wounded because a threat wasn't immediately obvious.

I regularly visit a law enforcement facility where unauthorized firearms are prohibited. I sent the head of the agency a letter requesting permission and describing how I planned to secure my firearms when I was there.

I received a reply that specifically authorized the procedure I had described, with an additional request that I immediately comply with any directives by an officer, which could include putting down a firearm and showing my hands, and that I keep a copy of the letter in the car.

Everything was basically a formality and common sense, but we both needed to cover all of our bases.
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A lot of this seems like common sense to me. If you are competent enough to purchase a firearm and go get your CC license you should be able to handle a traffic stop.
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I keep them in my safe unless I'm transporting them to a range, after which, they go right back into the safe.

Because....Canada.
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A lot of this seems like common sense to me. If you are competent enough to purchase a firearm and go get your CC license you should be able to handle a traffic stop.
Thanks for that, I needed a laugh today.
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Have you heard of keistering
Sounds like shoving your gun up your ass.
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Practice, it could be a life saver
You would spend more time cleaning it
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You can just hand the officer your conceal carry license with your ID and insurance.

Moral of the story here is you don't want the LEO finding out you have a firearm before you tell him/her.
FIRST thing out of your mouth irregardless of what he asks for and even
before he even speaks . . . . "I have a CPL and firearm on board"
It says you have to "NOTIFY" him immediately
I've been stopped ? ? ? 5 times in 4 years.
They got Hello out of their mouth and I gave a very clear,
"I have a CPL and 1 firearm on board" . . .
All have said Thank You during the conversation for getting that
out quickly and clearly ! And I believe that helped me get
verbal warnings only on 3 of the stops associated with SPEEDING
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FIRST thing out of your mouth irregardless of what he asks for and even
before he even speaks . . . . "I have a CPL and firearm on board"
It says you have to "NOTIFY" him immediately
I've been stopped ? ? ? 5 times in 4 years.
They got Hello out of their mouth and I gave a very clear,
"I have a CPL and 1 firearm on board" . . .
All have said Thank You during the conversation for getting that
out quickly and clearly ! And I believe that helped me get
verbal warnings only on 3 of the stops associated with SPEEDING
I do believe officers like to see "responsible and lawful" (I used quotes cause well your being pulled over for a law violation most likely lol) citizens carry firearms.
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I do believe officers like to see "responsible and lawful" (I used quotes cause well your being pulled over for a law violation most likely lol) citizens carry firearms.
Was this sarcasm? Tell me it was sarcasm. Today's been long enough.
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I keep them in my safe unless I'm transporting them to a range, after which, they go right back into the safe.

Because....Canada.
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      11-01-2017, 08:13 PM   #109
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I didn't read all five pages, but did someone already recommend:

"In my fire sleeves"?
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Was this sarcasm? Tell me it was sarcasm. Today's been long enough.
They certainly do in Texas.

If I were to take my CA legal CCW gun into SF or Marin the police there would have illegally taken it and tried to stop me getting it back. I imagine its the same in other America-hating parts of this country.
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