Afe intake scoops and BMS filter

mrrosie · 08-21-2011, 09:31 AM

Hi all, just wanted to share that the other day I received my afe intake scoops from Turner to add to the BMS intake I put in a few days earlier.

Installation only took 5 minutes and was super easy. They even provide you with the torx bit to undo the snorkels.

After driving around with it for a few days I am very happy with the results. Throttle response seems to be better, the exhaust sounds beefier, and performance has generally improved.

Note that the only other intake mod I have was replacing the OEM filter with a BMS drop in filter. The exhaust is stock.

Definitely a thumbs up for this simple mod combo.

xxllst · 08-21-2011, 09:59 AM

very nice, do you have any other tune on the car ?
or is this your first upgrade?

MrBlonde · 08-21-2011, 05:32 PM

No before and after dyno sheets?

sbce90 · 08-21-2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

No before and after dyno sheets?

Butt dyno always works best.

MrBlonde · 08-21-2011, 06:28 PM

There are other positive outcomes than a performance gain.

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 08-21-2011, 07:01 PM

some 135s come standard with scoops don't they?

sbce90 · 08-21-2011, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

There are other positive outcomes than a performance gain.

bahaha no need to tell me that lol! I get no power from my exhaust/intake mods but at least they sound good = positive outcome in my books.

MrBlonde · 08-21-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBC

bahaha no need to tell me that lol! I get no power from my exhaust/intake mods but at least they sound good = positive outcome in my books.

Same, I love my exhaust system but I know it gives me no real performance benefits.

With any modifications around the air intake I'd love to see dyno sheets before and after. It's such a contentious area and very low in hard data.

Dackelone · 08-21-2011, 08:09 PM

I was thinking about those "scoops" the other day as I was changing out my air filter for a new Mahle (paper) one. I know I changed it early but I wanted too.

What got me thinking about those "scoops" was in my air box there was quite a few small stones and sand in there! The factory box has some places where the purposely designed little nooks and crannies for debris to get stopped inside of the air box. I would hate to be running a more pourous gauze filter (K&N and the like) that would let those stones and sand into my engine! And when you have some scoops... how much more sand will get sucked up into there! Just a thought!

dh58 · 08-21-2011, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Same, I love my exhaust system but I know it gives me no real performance benefits.

Really? Is there any weight savings?

Orlin · 08-21-2011, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dh58

Really? Is there any weight savings?

maybe a little however Kenny has the cpe exhaust which has a muffler so the weight saving would not be much. You will save more weight by getting the berk/maddad/aa muffler delete however it will be much louder.

mrrosie · 08-21-2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxllst

very nice, do you have any other tune on the car ?
or is this your first upgrade?

Other than cosmetic mods and performance brakes, that is the only engine mod to the car...

Unfortunately no dyno data Kenny, however the butt dyno gave me a good reading.

Considering the whole lot only cost about $200 in total, regardless of real dyno numbers, I feel it was definitely worth it.

-satanic- · 08-22-2011, 04:39 AM

In my experience, and those of many, the factory airbox and intake setup is actually the 'best' setup in terms of efficiency & gain. Unless you are planning on doing stupid things to your car (e.g. doubling/tripling the power), most air intake modifications produce hardly any gains (if any)

Don't be sold on the 'better filtration', 'higher flowing' advertising on the websites / boxes - it is there for a reason

Paper filters from factory have time and time again proven to be very effective & the most bang-for-buck.

The scoops on the other hand, I can see as a real benefit as any form of ducting that improves air flow, cooling is a good thing - your engine will love the more efficient flow of fresh air and gain from it.

Re seat of the pants dyno, just make sure it's not the placebo effect taking over...

mrrosie · 08-22-2011, 07:17 AM

Just for clarity, air box is factory, only the filter was changed...

gtjosh · 03-29-2016, 06:41 PM

Anyone ever think about how the scoops will except the intake in the rain? Something worth worrying about?

Cheungs · 03-29-2016, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtjosh

Anyone ever think about how the scoops will except the intake in the rain? Something worth worrying about?

That 5 year old thread revival!

Fuji · 03-30-2016, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheungs

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtjosh

Anyone ever think about how the scoops will except the intake in the rain? Something worth worrying about?

That 5 year old thread revival!

LOL

gtjosh · 03-30-2016, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuji

LOL

Tried to search for anything that had to do with rain and the scoops and found nothing.

Fuji · 03-30-2016, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtjosh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuji

LOL

Tried to search for anything that had to do with rain and the scoops and found nothing.

Sorry to be an ass - it should have very little effect on directing rain into your intake

froop · 03-31-2016, 05:40 PM

LOL

I have these scoops and I've driven in the rain plenty without issue. Quite sure they do nothing at all, but if you paint them a shiny colour they look awesome peeking out from behind some black performance kidney grills.

If you drive through a massive puddle that throws copious amounts of water up your intake snorkel then I doubt the scoops are going to make much difference either. Hydrolock is hydrolock.

08-21-2011, 09:31 AM	#1
mrrosie New Member 5 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2008 - BMW 135i ~SGM ~ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Afe intake scoops and BMS filter - worth it Hi all, just wanted to share that the other day I received my afe intake scoops from Turner to add to the BMS intake I put in a few days earlier. Installation only took 5 minutes and was super easy. They even provide you with the torx bit to undo the snorkels. After driving around with it for a few days I am very happy with the results. Throttle response seems to be better, the exhaust sounds beefier, and performance has generally improved. Note that the only other intake mod I have was replacing the OEM filter with a BMS drop in filter. The exhaust is stock. Definitely a thumbs up for this simple mod combo. __________________ 2008 - BMW 135i ~ SGM ~ Terra Interior ~ Black Grilles ~ Satin Black Wheels ~ BMW Performance Brakes ~ Afe Intake Scoops ~ BMS Drop-in filter ~ JB4 Have,but still to install: 12mm Wheel Spacers front and back...
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

08-21-2011, 09:59 AM	#2
xxllst New Member 0 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 135i/LeMans blue Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	very nice, do you have any other tune on the car ? or is this your first upgrade?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-21-2011, 05:32 PM	#3
MrBlonde Colonel 122 Rep 2,695 Posts Drives: Audi TTRS, M Coupe, 1299 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Merewether iTrader: (0)	No before and after dyno sheets? __________________ .-=[ Kenny ]=-. 1999 BMW M Coupe 10.775 @ 134.35 mph w/1.600 60' (Best 136.07 mph) 25th August 2004. +2010 X5 35D+ Check out the 1Addicts Drag Racing Standings and Drag Racing 101.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-21-2011, 06:28 PM	#5
MrBlonde Colonel 122 Rep 2,695 Posts Drives: Audi TTRS, M Coupe, 1299 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Merewether iTrader: (0)	There are other positive outcomes than a performance gain. __________________ .-=[ Kenny ]=-. 1999 BMW M Coupe 10.775 @ 134.35 mph w/1.600 60' (Best 136.07 mph) 25th August 2004. +2010 X5 35D+ Check out the 1Addicts Drag Racing Standings and Drag Racing 101.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-21-2011, 07:01 PM	#6
Stuart@BMRAutowerkes Major General 808 Rep 5,530 Posts Drives: a black car Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (3)	some 135s come standard with scoops don't they?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-21-2011, 08:09 PM	#9
Dackelone European Editor 10528 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	I was thinking about those "scoops" the other day as I was changing out my air filter for a new Mahle (paper) one. I know I changed it early but I wanted too. What got me thinking about those "scoops" was in my air box there was quite a few small stones and sand in there! The factory box has some places where the purposely designed little nooks and crannies for debris to get stopped inside of the air box. I would hate to be running a more pourous gauze filter (K&N and the like) that would let those stones and sand into my engine! And when you have some scoops... how much more sand will get sucked up into there! Just a thought!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-22-2011, 04:39 AM	#13
-satanic- Private First Class 9 Rep 146 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 135i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	In my experience, and those of many, the factory airbox and intake setup is actually the 'best' setup in terms of efficiency & gain. Unless you are planning on doing stupid things to your car (e.g. doubling/tripling the power), most air intake modifications produce hardly any gains (if any) Don't be sold on the 'better filtration', 'higher flowing' advertising on the websites / boxes - it is there for a reason Paper filters from factory have time and time again proven to be very effective & the most bang-for-buck. The scoops on the other hand, I can see as a real benefit as any form of ducting that improves air flow, cooling is a good thing - your engine will love the more efficient flow of fresh air and gain from it. Re seat of the pants dyno, just make sure it's not the placebo effect taking over... __________________ \| 2011 BMW 135i \| AW, N55, Prof. Nav, 18% Tints, Kerscher CF Splitter, CF Rear Spoiler, Matte Black Grilles Build Thread
	Appreciate 0 Quote

08-22-2011, 07:17 AM	#14
mrrosie New Member 5 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2008 - BMW 135i ~SGM ~ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Just for clarity, air box is factory, only the filter was changed... __________________ 2008 - BMW 135i ~ SGM ~ Terra Interior ~ Black Grilles ~ Satin Black Wheels ~ BMW Performance Brakes ~ Afe Intake Scoops ~ BMS Drop-in filter ~ JB4 Have,but still to install: 12mm Wheel Spacers front and back...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-29-2016, 06:41 PM	#15
gtjosh Private First Class 21 Rep 120 Posts Drives: Silver 2011 135i DCT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Braunfels, TX iTrader: (1)	Anyone ever think about how the scoops will except the intake in the rain? Something worth worrying about?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

03-31-2016, 05:40 PM	#20
froop Colonel 171 Rep 2,682 Posts Drives: 08 AW 6MT E82 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3)	LOL I have these scoops and I've driven in the rain plenty without issue. Quite sure they do nothing at all, but if you paint them a shiny colour they look awesome peeking out from behind some black performance kidney grills. If you drive through a massive puddle that throws copious amounts of water up your intake snorkel then I doubt the scoops are going to make much difference either. Hydrolock is hydrolock. __________________ froop's AW 135i Build Thread
	Appreciate 0 Quote