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      12-04-2010, 08:08 PM   #1
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jb3 highest setting for a stock car?

After a year and half of running a JB+ which I thoroughly enjoyed; I making the jump to a JB3 and wanted to know the highest safe MAP I can run?
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which octane gas do you use?

if 91- i wouldn't go over map 3

if 93- you might be ok on map 5. log timing, send it to terry for evaluation
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good point - I'm running 93
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91 octane = map 3.
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After a year and half of running a JB+ which I thoroughly enjoyed; I making the jump to a JB3 and wanted to know the highest safe MAP I can run?
I remember you posting one time about how you're satisfied with just a JB+ and a berk axleback! I guess the mod bug migrated back to your house this year and bit you again

I'm 99% sure that map 5 isn't good for 91 octane, but Terry said a long time ago that 93 octane is alright with it. Though the difference between map 3 and map 5 is only about 10-15 whp and ft/lbs from a random post I read a while ago.
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I'm on Map 7 with full bolt-ons and 91 Octane with <60 weather.
When it gets too hot here, I usually drop it down to map 5.
When it's below 35ºF I usually go to map 1 with my boost hitting a nice 17psi.
Timing is perfect too, no worries there. (Meth off)

If you aren't running upgrade intercooler or downpipes, I would not suggest going over Map 3 with temperatures above 60ºF.


I don't know much about cars though.

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I remember you posting one time about how you're satisfied with just a JB+ and a berk axleback! I guess the mod bug migrated back to your house this year and bit you again

I'm 99% sure that map 5 isn't good for 91 octane, but Terry said a long time ago that 93 octane is alright with it. Though the difference between map 3 and map 5 is only about 10-15 whp and ft/lbs from a random post I read a while ago.
Good memory. I love my set-up (JB+ (now at 100%) and Berk axleback. And you have hit the nail on the head, I have had a relapse and I'm back at the Mod bar.

I was doing fine until this summer, my son bought an EVO X which we have been modding and this feed my mod needs.

In the fall, I went and dyno'ed at a Bimmerfest which I pulled 302 whp and another 135i w/ JB3, downpipes, catback and intake pulled 375 whp.

Now its Xmas and everyone in the family gave me $ to buy my son gifts - intercooler, 3 port boost controller, intake, gauges, ..........

How much can a guy take!

I can't sit there Xmas day and see one great bolt-on present being opened after another and none of it goes on my car!

At the same time with the JB4 coming out, a used JB3 can be picked up cheap. The JB+ priced right will sell in one day. And this gets me ready for downpipes.

So there you have it - the naked truth.
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Good memory. I love my set-up (JB+ (now at 100%) and Berk axleback. And you have hit the nail on the head, I have had a relapse and I'm back at the Mod bar.

I was doing fine until this summer, my son bought an EVO X which we have been modding and this feed my mod needs.

In the fall, I went and dyno'ed at a Bimmerfest which I pulled 302 whp and another 135i w/ JB3, downpipes, catback and intake pulled 375 whp.

Now its Xmas and everyone in the family gave me $ to buy my son gifts - intercooler, 3 port boost controller, intake, gauges, ..........

How much can a guy take!

I can't sit there Xmas day and see one great bolt-on present being opened after another and none of it goes on my car!

At the same time with the JB4 coming out, a used JB3 can be picked up cheap. The JB+ priced right will sell in one day. And this gets me ready for downpipes.

So there you have it - the naked truth.
I think I remember because I was searching info on the exhaust, but I would have felt pretty stupid if you were the wrong guy haha

Your situation's fully understandable. I don't think I'd be able to resist either, in that situation. Every time I say "okay that's enough for now" something happens or I read something that makes me want to blow even more money.

I'm thinking of upgrading to JB3/4 next spring (no use for it in the winter really) so if (when) you end up making the jump, post a comparison, I'd be really interested in reading.

Also, congrats to your son!
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I'm thinking of upgrading to JB3/4 next spring (no use for it in the winter really) so if (when) you end up making the jump, post a comparison, I'd be really interested in reading.

Also, congrats to your son!
From what I understand MAP 3 and JB+ @100% are about the same but it should be smoother. If I can run MAP 5 - few more ponies.

I'm just lining myself up for a FMIC and downpipes.

The EVO for MOD'ers is pure heroin. Tons of bolt-on options. The ECU is wide open. AND no BMW tax.
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      12-06-2010, 05:18 AM   #12
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I had dropped Terry a note and he back with Map 5 without solenoid mod.
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What is silenoid mod?
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What is silenoid mod?
you run it if you have the jb+. basically, bypass one of the solenoids above the turbo manifolds. the jb3 does this electronically, so it's not necessary to do if you have the jb3.
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Get a DCI and run map 5 or map 7 in >60 degrees
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I am running map 7 with 93 fuel and no problem at all.
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I've run Map 7 with DCI in up to 80 degrees, but less than 55/60 is most recommended, otherwise Map 5. Map 3 w/ 91 octane.
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I am running map 7 with 93 fuel and no problem at all.
Terry indicated max MAP 5 on a stock car w/ 93.
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94 is available where i am, so it's usually in the car

I ran Map 7 once for about 20 minutes with just the DCI intake.... was the best 20 minutes of my life.... however, i did worry about hurting the car, so i put it back down to Map 5.

Mind you, i have an intercooler and downpipes sitting in my living room now, so it's a matter of time before i'm back on Map 7..... or JB4, possibly procede in the future, time will tell.

Just food for thought.... map 0 has been the best highway mileage in my car, so i usually only have the maps activated in the city and i save about 1-2 l/100kms on the highway being in map 0

or a difference on the highway of about 30mpg to 35mpg (when being a stupidly conservative driver.... otherwise, don't expect to see these numbers....)
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Map 5 here daily on 93. i have run map 7 as well at the track, but the car got slower on each consecutive pass and the engine started to pull timing... So map 5 it is..
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