Non-Approved BMW Phones

Mega Man · 03-05-2009, 08:01 PM

If you've read my previous posts regarding my faulty electronics: no chime at start-up, no radio/cd/iPod/bluetooth sound (the bluetooth will connect, calls can be made and answered, but i can't hear anything) then you already know the symptoms.

I took my car in regarding slow cranks, and mentioned the audio problem as well. I got my HPFP replaced, and they couldn't replicate the radio problems. The SA advised me against using my current phone with my car; that possibly it was interfering with the car's MOS BUS (maybe not spelled correctly, just how I heard it).

Long story short: Can anyone confirm or refute that a non-approved BMW Phone can interfere with the car's electronics systems over bluetooth?

shadowiix · 03-05-2009, 08:17 PM

i have the same audio problems as you do but i dont have the bluetooth option. The only thing connected to my car is an ipod. called the dealership and they dont know what causes it and dont seem to believe me.

Mega Man · 03-05-2009, 08:23 PM

Mine believes me, but can't reproduce the problem. I suppose the thing to do is to get the problem to occur; not shut the car off and drive it over there. The only problem for me is I work M-F 9-5. The service department opens at 7am and closes at 6pm. They're open on Saturday with limited hours.

Since the radio issue is completely random, I don't know how to get my car over for this problem...

Mad Dragon · 03-05-2009, 08:59 PM

Non-approved phones can cause the TCU to lock up, which will cause problems with the MOST bus.

jotapeh · 03-05-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowiix

i have the same audio problems as you do but i dont have the bluetooth option. The only thing connected to my car is an ipod. called the dealership and they dont know what causes it and dont seem to believe me.

In general I find my iPod problems are solved by unplugging the iPod, playing/pausing a song while it's unplugged and plugging it back in. If that doesn't work, sometimes you have to restart the whole car. Bit of a pain but it's a rare problem for me

Mega Man · 03-06-2009, 05:11 PM

Just to clarify, jotapeh, it's not an issue with the iPod. It's the entire audio system. The car won't chime at you when you start it. The radio/CD/AUX/iPod won't even be an option if you press the Audio button.

I didn't know what it would be...when the SA told me it could be non-approved phone issues, I bought into it. Turned off the Bluetooth on my phone and my car, deleted the pairing on the phone and car and thought my problems would be solved. However, I came across that problem again.

Furthermore, shadowiix is saying that his car is doing it as well, and he doesn't have a Bluetooth system in his car.

In any case, I hope this problem can be acknowledged and fixed by BMW NA soon.

Mega Man · 03-09-2009, 01:19 PM

It's really annoying to have bought a $40k car and have no audio during your morning commute.

I still have not paired my bluetooth phone, and have bluetooth turned off on both the car and the phone. I plan on buying an approved bluetooth phone in the future (probably a Blackberry 8800)

shadowiix · 03-09-2009, 04:36 PM

Hey megaman, do you have a black 135i. i saw one at 24hrs awhile ago.

BSM 135i · 03-09-2009, 04:37 PM

i have my sidekick 08' connected to my car and it works properly 99.9% of the time but every now and then it will bug out and i can make a call and as soon as they answer i can't hear anything until i press the hang up button then the sound goes through....weird.

Mega Man · 03-09-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowiix

Hey megaman, do you have a black 135i. i saw one at 24hrs awhile ago.

No, it's Alpine White (you can see it in my album here).

Mega Man · 03-09-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSM 135i

i have my sidekick 08' connected to my car and it works properly 99.9% of the time but every now and then it will bug out and i can make a call and as soon as they answer i can't hear anything until i press the hang up button then the sound goes through....weird.

My sound doesn't even work at all (no radio, CD, iPod, etc) sometimes at random.

Not sure if this is because I was using a "non-approved" phone, or a faulty sound system to begin with. That's what I'm trying to figure out. shadowiix reports having this problem in a non-bluetooth 128i, I'm starting to lean towards a faulty sound/electrical system; not a conflicting problem through bluetooth.

BMW86 · 03-09-2009, 05:32 PM

Sorry guys I hope the service department is able to fix your problem. I am using the LG KC910 Renoir phone and it works flawlessly. Good phone, I recommend it.

Orlin · 03-09-2009, 05:55 PM

bmw bluetooth can be very picky, im using a nokia 5310 and its never ever missed a beat when working with my car.

BSM 135i · 03-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

My sound doesn't even work at all (no radio, CD, iPod, etc) sometimes at random.

Not sure if this is because I was using a "non-approved" phone, or a faulty sound system to begin with. That's what I'm trying to figure out. shadowiix reports having this problem in a non-bluetooth 128i, I'm starting to lean towards a faulty sound/electrical system; not a conflicting problem through bluetooth.

now that you mention it, my car actually did that once, the radio turned on but i got no sound from ipod/radio/sat/phone calls.

Mega Man · 03-16-2009, 08:32 PM

For the past week and a half (maybe two weeks), I've had my phone deleted from my car's bluetooth, my car deleted from my phone's bluetooth, and bluetooth on the car and the phone always switched off.

I've still randomly encountered a non-working audio system. I am deducing that my phone is not the cause of the audio problem.

BMW NA sent me an email regarding my latest service with Long Beach BMW. All-in-all I gave them high marks (they have excellent customer service). The only low mark I gave them was in regards to all the problems being fixed. I mentioned the radio issue not being resolved.

A follow-up email from BMW NA came asking for more details. Hopefully, this will result in some kind of fix. I hate not listening to my morning radio on my commute to work. I hate leaving work only to be stuck in traffic without any tunes.

Honestly, I don't mind it so much if I'm just going out by myself, but it is a tad bit embarrassing when going out with friends riding in the car. Above all else though, I hate getting through my work day without any morning radio and again no tunes coming home.

hot_ride · 03-25-2009, 10:10 PM

After reading this I am reminded of a situation I encountered when I was trying to find a USB stick that worked with the car. Not exactly as described, but may be worth a shot removing if you're using one. BMW has been kind enough not to recommend a brand or model of USB stick and allowing us to use the scientific Hit and Miss technique.

gtaday51 · 03-25-2009, 10:13 PM

I have an unapproved Samsung and the Bluetooth functions normally. I have all of my number, contacts, and it even makes calls!

Mega Man · 03-26-2009, 01:05 AM

Here's a question: Blackberry 8900. Why is it approved for AT&T (named Blackberry Bold), but not TMobile?

Mad Dragon · 03-26-2009, 06:05 AM

Ask Blackberry or BMW.

Lester · 03-26-2009, 08:49 AM

All Bluetooth is CRAP. It is unsecure, flaky and bad news - no matter whose BT you use. There - I said it. Now - those of you who will defend Bluetooth - good for you - but for the most part you will get nothing but problems, poor battery life on the device and overall, can be a high security risk.

Haywood · 03-26-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

All Bluetooth is CRAP. It is unsecure, flaky and bad news - no matter whose BT you use. There - I said it. Now - those of you who will defend Bluetooth - good for you - but for the most part you will get nothing but problems, poor battery life on the device and overall, can be a high security risk.

gtaday51 · 03-26-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

All Bluetooth is CRAP. It is unsecure, flaky and bad news - no matter whose BT you use. There - I said it. Now - those of you who will defend Bluetooth - good for you - but for the most part you will get nothing but problems, poor battery life on the device and overall, can be a high security risk.

Bluetooth works greta with my xbox 360.

03-05-2009, 08:01 PM	#1
Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Non-Approved BMW Phones If you've read my previous posts regarding my faulty electronics: no chime at start-up, no radio/cd/iPod/bluetooth sound (the bluetooth will connect, calls can be made and answered, but i can't hear anything) then you already know the symptoms. I took my car in regarding slow cranks, and mentioned the audio problem as well. I got my HPFP replaced, and they couldn't replicate the radio problems. The SA advised me against using my current phone with my car; that possibly it was interfering with the car's MOS BUS (maybe not spelled correctly, just how I heard it). Long story short: Can anyone confirm or refute that a non-approved BMW Phone can interfere with the car's electronics systems over bluetooth? __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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shadowiix Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 128i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: irvine iTrader: (0)	i have the same audio problems as you do but i dont have the bluetooth option. The only thing connected to my car is an ipod. called the dealership and they dont know what causes it and dont seem to believe me.
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Mine believes me, but can't reproduce the problem. I suppose the thing to do is to get the problem to occur; not shut the car off and drive it over there. The only problem for me is I work M-F 9-5. The service department opens at 7am and closes at 6pm. They're open on Saturday with limited hours. Since the radio issue is completely random, I don't know how to get my car over for this problem... __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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03-05-2009, 08:59 PM	#4
Mad Dragon . 27 Rep 932 Posts Drives: 2010 GTI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Non-approved phones can cause the TCU to lock up, which will cause problems with the MOST bus.
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Just to clarify, jotapeh, it's not an issue with the iPod. It's the entire audio system. The car won't chime at you when you start it. The radio/CD/AUX/iPod won't even be an option if you press the Audio button. I didn't know what it would be...when the SA told me it could be non-approved phone issues, I bought into it. Turned off the Bluetooth on my phone and my car, deleted the pairing on the phone and car and thought my problems would be solved. However, I came across that problem again. Furthermore, shadowiix is saying that his car is doing it as well, and he doesn't have a Bluetooth system in his car. In any case, I hope this problem can be acknowledged and fixed by BMW NA soon. __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	It's really annoying to have bought a $40k car and have no audio during your morning commute. I still have not paired my bluetooth phone, and have bluetooth turned off on both the car and the phone. I plan on buying an approved bluetooth phone in the future (probably a Blackberry 8800) __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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shadowiix Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 128i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: irvine iTrader: (0)	Hey megaman, do you have a black 135i. i saw one at 24hrs awhile ago.
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BSM 135i Colonel 206 Rep 2,229 Posts Drives: 08' BSM E82 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (23)	i have my sidekick 08' connected to my car and it works properly 99.9% of the time but every now and then it will bug out and i can make a call and as soon as they answer i can't hear anything until i press the hang up button then the sound goes through....weird.
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03-09-2009, 05:32 PM	#12
BMW86 Major General 398 Rep 9,156 Posts Drives: RS3 Sedan / Macan S Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Sorry guys I hope the service department is able to fix your problem. I am using the LG KC910 Renoir phone and it works flawlessly. Good phone, I recommend it.
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Orlin Major 44 Rep 1,359 Posts Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (1)	bmw bluetooth can be very picky, im using a nokia 5310 and its never ever missed a beat when working with my car.
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	For the past week and a half (maybe two weeks), I've had my phone deleted from my car's bluetooth, my car deleted from my phone's bluetooth, and bluetooth on the car and the phone always switched off. I've still randomly encountered a non-working audio system. I am deducing that my phone is not the cause of the audio problem. BMW NA sent me an email regarding my latest service with Long Beach BMW. All-in-all I gave them high marks (they have excellent customer service). The only low mark I gave them was in regards to all the problems being fixed. I mentioned the radio issue not being resolved. A follow-up email from BMW NA came asking for more details. Hopefully, this will result in some kind of fix. I hate not listening to my morning radio on my commute to work. I hate leaving work only to be stuck in traffic without any tunes. Honestly, I don't mind it so much if I'm just going out by myself, but it is a tad bit embarrassing when going out with friends riding in the car. Above all else though, I hate getting through my work day without any morning radio and again no tunes coming home. __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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hot_ride Private First Class 10 Rep 197 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	After reading this I am reminded of a situation I encountered when I was trying to find a USB stick that worked with the car. Not exactly as described, but may be worth a shot removing if you're using one. BMW has been kind enough not to recommend a brand or model of USB stick and allowing us to use the scientific Hit and Miss technique.
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gtaday51 gone but not forgotten 35 Rep 985 Posts Drives: gone 135 - Hello 1M! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Big Apple iTrader: (0)	I have an unapproved Samsung and the Bluetooth functions normally. I have all of my number, contacts, and it even makes calls! __________________ Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration don't fail me now.
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 270 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Here's a question: Blackberry 8900. Why is it approved for AT&T (named Blackberry Bold), but not TMobile? __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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Mad Dragon . 27 Rep 932 Posts Drives: 2010 GTI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Ask Blackberry or BMW.
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03-26-2009, 08:49 AM	#20
Lester Brigadier General 295 Rep 3,350 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	All Bluetooth is CRAP. It is unsecure, flaky and bad news - no matter whose BT you use. There - I said it. Now - those of you who will defend Bluetooth - good for you - but for the most part you will get nothing but problems, poor battery life on the device and overall, can be a high security risk.
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