C&D: 2012 BMW 1M Coupe prototype drive

Ash83 · 07-09-2010, 01:52 PM

I do not think that BMW will release a car without a decent auto tranny because sadly this is what most people wants.

(It is gonna be hilarious if BMW did what Pagani/ Maclaren did with some of there cars.. MANual is the only tranny that you will get and if you do not like it f**k off bcz there are a lot of 'Real Hardcore racer' who wants a real sport car with real clutch and transmission)

I would put money that a 1-M with the rumored 335hp will beat any of our 1er with (JB, Procede ....etc) around Nuremberg by at least 5 seconds..

RobLS · 07-09-2010, 01:59 PM

So from the speculations now given, its showing that the people previously arguing that its an M version of the 1 series and the people that argued that its an 'is' version of the 1 series are looking to both become correct. We'll see as they reveal final information.

JoseSportM · 07-09-2010, 02:17 PM

135i stage1 in Portugal go to 360HP and 456Nm so i think is better wait to see the official numbers :P

Jaguar66 · 07-09-2010, 02:24 PM

There is so much BS speculation coming from both the press and this community. The real jist of what BMW has done is to verify the coming of a 1 Series M car. And not a 135is. It will be called a 1 Series M Coupe. And that is all. Nothing more, nothing less. A few select people have been in the passenger seat of a prototype, with a few laps around a track. Nothing more, nothing less.

And the statement for now, is "It is coming, but we will have to wait". All this speculation about HP, DCT, power bulge, quad exhaust, N54, N55, LSD, weight of the car, and even still the name of the car, is maddening.

My question is, why can't people accept this? The 1M is coming, and that is really all we know.

roberttran · 07-09-2010, 02:32 PM

I really hope there is no DCT option. It'll reduce the buyer pool and help my chances of getting one :-)

I'm still debating on whether I should wait for the 1 M Coupe or just buy a 2003 M5 + 2010 BMW S1000RR

Advevo · 07-09-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roberttran

I really hope there is no DCT option. It'll reduce the buyer pool and help my chances of getting one :-)

I'm still debating on whether I should wait for the 1 M Coupe or just buy a 2003 M5 + 2010 BMW S1000RR

Buy an M5 that s a real ///M engine.

corrupt23jj · 07-09-2010, 02:45 PM

Hmmm...

135i<1 MC<M3

Boxster<Cayman<Carrera

TMR013 · 07-09-2010, 02:48 PM

Interesting. This article makes it sound like BMW is trying to put this together on the cheap, "there is no budget for expensive lightweight materials". Which does make some sense as they surely are not going to put out anything that will flat out beat an M3 for less money. If that is the case, my car after a PPK and front swaybar should be about equal in performance.
Kind of glad I didn't get too excited about this.

Curt2000 · 07-09-2010, 02:52 PM

dissapointing

bmw13 · 07-09-2010, 03:00 PM

now i know why i did not get approved on an m3

never thought i would be so happy to say that, and its because there was something better out there for me, just some hard work and patience was needed. BMWFTMFW

bmw13 · 07-09-2010, 03:02 PM

the best be working on those future fuel pumps, would hate to go through this all over again, and with an ///m at that

KingOfJericho · 07-09-2010, 03:02 PM

When the E46 was offered at the same starting price (mid to upper $40's), was it also labeled "affordable?" It just cracks me up when people say the 135 is a poor mans BMW when it you could buy an M3 for the same price just a few years ago.

kmarei · 07-09-2010, 03:22 PM

based on above listed spec
what a total disapointment
to me so far, the 1M is basically a way to milk some money from the outgoing chassis before the new one comes out
and until the next M3 comes out with more power
the 1M will be the boxster of the BMW family
just enough power so it doesn't compete with the M3
i wouldn't pay $45K for this
would rather pay that money and buy a used M3
a real M car
not a 135is in M clothing

BMWDAD · 07-09-2010, 03:30 PM

I would not buy the 1M until the redesigned 1 and the redesigned three specs and design are well known.

I would buy an M3.

E82tt6 · 07-09-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmarei

based on above listed spec
what a total disapointment
to me so far, the 1M is basically a way to milk some money from the outgoing chassis before the new one comes out
and until the next M3 comes out with more power
the 1M will be the boxster of the BMW family
just enough power so it doesn't compete with the M3
i wouldn't pay $45K for this
would rather pay that money and buy a used M3
a real M car
not a 135is in M clothing

As has been stated, these specs were pulled out of C&D's ass. Most of it is grossly inaccurate based on what we've been told from official M sources.

I know the M divison has made some MAJOR fail lately (DUB magazine style overpowered SUVs?), but I'd rather stay optimistic than pessimistic.

They haven't royally f*cked up a coupe yet, and I don't think they will now.

Robert · 07-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrupt23jj

Hmmm...

135i<1 MC<M3

Boxster<Cayman<Carrera

Wrong

Cayman > Carrera

and if we want to play that ranking game

135i<1MC<M3<Boxster<Cayman<Carrera

which I dont think is true and sure you will agree

npd2983 · 07-09-2010, 03:58 PM

Surprised they said the seat height is lower than a 3 series because a regular 1 is taller than a 3 and the seat height is also correspondingly higher than a 3.

That is one gripe I have about my 128i is that I think the seat should go about 1-2 inches lower, not that I am crowded for headroom, but still I am sitting "up high." Maybe they fixed it on the m1i 1M coupe turbo m1 coupe 1m?

ChristianM · 07-09-2010, 03:58 PM

No specifications are out yet, how one can estimate 335hp from sitting in the passenger seat is beyond me.

guys I'm new to the forums, do I need a certain amount of posts before I'm allowed to PM?

Madozu · 07-09-2010, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianM

No specifications are out yet, how one can estimate 335hp from sitting in the passenger seat is beyond me.

This is equally true for the statement that the car's handling is good ... backseat handling? *lol*

E82tt6 · 07-09-2010, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npd2983

Surprised they said the seat height is lower than a 3 series because a regular 1 is taller than a 3 and the seat height is also correspondingly higher than a 3.

That is one gripe I have about my 128i is that I think the seat should go about 1-2 inches lower, not that I am crowded for headroom, but still I am sitting "up high." Maybe they fixed it on the m1i 1M coupe turbo m1 coupe 1m?

Power seats?

I had the manual seats in my 135i, and they were plenty low.

ChristianM · 07-09-2010, 04:06 PM

Quote:

This is equally true for the statement that the car's handling is good ... backseat handling? *lol*

At least handling you can get a feel for, how it entered/exited the corners, but driver skill is always going to be a huge variable regardless in that case.

E82tt6 · 07-09-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madozu

This is equally true for the statement that the car's handling is good ... backseat handling? *lol*

Body control looks pretty good from watching the prototype lap the N-Ring, and it sounds pretty fantastic, but that's about all that can be said.

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Ash83 Major 41 Rep 1,177 Posts Drives: 135i & RS5 (SOLD)/ 18 CTS-V Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (1)	I do not think that BMW will release a car without a decent auto tranny because sadly this is what most people wants. (It is gonna be hilarious if BMW did what Pagani/ Maclaren did with some of there cars.. MANual is the only tranny that you will get and if you do not like it f**k off bcz there are a lot of 'Real Hardcore racer' who wants a real sport car with real clutch and transmission) I would put money that a 1-M with the rumored 335hp will beat any of our 1er with (JB, Procede ....etc) around Nuremberg by at least 5 seconds.. __________________ Alpine White, Coral RED , Glacier Silver Aluminum trim, M sport, 6MT, NAV, HiFi, USB-iPod, Bluetooth Performance: JB4\|BMW PE\|DP Cosmetics: BMW Sport Pedals\|Black Kidney Grill
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07-09-2010, 01:59 PM	#46
RobLS Major 29 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: M3 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Perpetual Rain iTrader: (0)	So from the speculations now given, its showing that the people previously arguing that its an M version of the 1 series and the people that argued that its an 'is' version of the 1 series are looking to both become correct. We'll see as they reveal final information.
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07-09-2010, 02:17 PM	#47
JoseSportM JoseSportM 414 Rep 371 Posts Drives: BMW G42 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Zurich iTrader: (1)	135i stage1 in Portugal go to 360HP and 456Nm so i think is better wait to see the official numbers :P
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Jaguar66 M Power 41 Rep 1,469 Posts Drives: '09 ///M-Sport 135i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Rafael iTrader: (3)	There is so much BS speculation coming from both the press and this community. The real jist of what BMW has done is to verify the coming of a 1 Series M car. And not a 135is. It will be called a 1 Series M Coupe. And that is all. Nothing more, nothing less. A few select people have been in the passenger seat of a prototype, with a few laps around a track. Nothing more, nothing less. And the statement for now, is "It is coming, but we will have to wait". All this speculation about HP, DCT, power bulge, quad exhaust, N54, N55, LSD, weight of the car, and even still the name of the car, is maddening. My question is, why can't people accept this? The 1M is coming, and that is really all we know. __________________
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roberttran New Member 1 Rep 29 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	I really hope there is no DCT option. It'll reduce the buyer pool and help my chances of getting one :-) I'm still debating on whether I should wait for the 1 M Coupe or just buy a 2003 M5 + 2010 BMW S1000RR __________________ BMWCCA #345491 1998 328i
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07-09-2010, 02:45 PM	#51
corrupt23jj Private First Class 3 Rep 136 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Porn Valley iTrader: (0)	Hmmm... 135i<1 MC<M3 Boxster<Cayman<Carrera __________________
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TMR013 Opus Angelus 425 Rep 1,267 Posts Drives: 2018 LBB M2 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	Interesting. This article makes it sound like BMW is trying to put this together on the cheap, "there is no budget for expensive lightweight materials". Which does make some sense as they surely are not going to put out anything that will flat out beat an M3 for less money. If that is the case, my car after a PPK and front swaybar should be about equal in performance. Kind of glad I didn't get too excited about this.
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bmw13 Captain 102 Rep 677 Posts Drives: 1M - GIAC:S2 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boca Raton, FL iTrader: (0)	the best be working on those future fuel pumps, would hate to go through this all over again, and with an ///m at that __________________ Follow my car/ life via Instagram @rdauito 2011 E82 1M #215 of 740 http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877009
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KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	When the E46 was offered at the same starting price (mid to upper $40's), was it also labeled "affordable?" It just cracks me up when people say the 135 is a poor mans BMW when it you could buy an M3 for the same price just a few years ago. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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kmarei Major General 686 Rep 6,845 Posts Drives: 2018 Audi RS5 coupe Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reston, VA iTrader: (34) Garage List 2018 Audi RS5 [0.00]	based on above listed spec what a total disapointment to me so far, the 1M is basically a way to milk some money from the outgoing chassis before the new one comes out and until the next M3 comes out with more power the 1M will be the boxster of the BMW family just enough power so it doesn't compete with the M3 i wouldn't pay $45K for this would rather pay that money and buy a used M3 a real M car not a 135is in M clothing
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BMWDAD Captain 93 Rep 755 Posts Drives: 2017 Porsche Macan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Richmond, Va. iTrader: (0)	I would not buy the 1M until the redesigned 1 and the redesigned three specs and design are well known. I would buy an M3.
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npd2983 Private 2 Rep 96 Posts Drives: '10 128i MT; '09 335d Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham, Ala. iTrader: (0)	Surprised they said the seat height is lower than a 3 series because a regular 1 is taller than a 3 and the seat height is also correspondingly higher than a 3. That is one gripe I have about my 128i is that I think the seat should go about 1-2 inches lower, not that I am crowded for headroom, but still I am sitting "up high." Maybe they fixed it on the m1i 1M coupe turbo m1 coupe 1m?
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07-09-2010, 03:58 PM	#62
ChristianM Enlisted Member 2 Rep 31 Posts Drives: TTC Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ontario, GTA iTrader: (0)	No specifications are out yet, how one can estimate 335hp from sitting in the passenger seat is beyond me. guys I'm new to the forums, do I need a certain amount of posts before I'm allowed to PM?
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