Lesson Learned

NY SLC 93 · 05-21-2008, 08:09 AM

Do not switch off traction control in the rain. I almost lost it yesterday...one day after picking her up!!

I have a lot to learn with this car, I'm so used to the AWD of the R32 which sticks like glue in any conditions!!

jtsherri · 05-21-2008, 08:11 AM

That's what open parking lots are for. Go practice! :wink:

OrientBlauZHP · 05-21-2008, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsherri

That's what open parking lots are for. Go practice! :wink:

+1. Exactly what I plan on doing, while I'm use to RWD I'm not use to a RWD with this much power. Glad you didn't loose it!

wrh3 · 05-21-2008, 08:21 AM

Yes, the R32 is a more forgiving car.........I agree with the open parking lots

JCtx · 05-21-2008, 10:32 AM

Thank God you don't have a limited-slip differential; you lose the rear a lot easier that way. Glad nothing happened. Take care.
JC

lacrosse · 05-21-2008, 10:56 AM

Whoa, glad you were able to hang on!

Take it easy my friend.

R32 · 05-21-2008, 11:20 AM

ny slc, bill, get your a$$es back to the vortex!

wait a minute... what am i doing over here?

adc · 05-21-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsherri

That's what open parking lots are for. Go practice! :wink:

I would actually suggest to the OP to join the BMWCCA, and go to one of their excellent driving schools. The better chapters also include wet skidpad car control clinics...

The beauty and excitement of RWD is how rewarding it can be when you start to be proficient...

floridiot · 05-21-2008, 11:27 AM

Haha, why would you switch it off in the rain?

NY SLC 93 · 05-21-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by floridiot

Haha, why would you switch it off in the rain?

I've just been switching it off all the time. I figured I could get the tail out a little with the roads being wet and all, and I fishtailed like a mutha fuka, and then back the other way almost into a curb.

I've never owned a RWD car and this thing is a whole other beast. I think some time in an open lot, and a driving school is in order. And some new w i d e r rubber.

IDBMW · 05-21-2008, 12:38 PM

There are people on this forum that think they can recover from loosing it better than DSC. They say DSC is crap. They most likely have been to a few performance driving schools so they know everything about driving. This is a good example of how I tried to tell them they are wrong! On the track DSC off is great but on the track you don’t have curbs and other obstacles including people but I am not going to get into that. I do not know the exact number but when DSC activates it breaks each wheel independently about 100 times a second. There is no way a human can come close to that.

Anyway I am glad you learned your lesson and no one got hurt and your car is not damaged.

And I agree with adc, join SCCA and go to some of there workshops. Until you have a chance to go to one of there workshops the big parking lot is a good idea to get the feeling of the car. I do it in the snow with my cars every year just for a re-fresher and have some easy drifting fun in the snow.

TagMan · 05-21-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NY SLC 93

Do not switch off traction control in the rain. I almost lost it yesterday...one day after picking her up!!

I have a lot to learn with this car, I'm so used to the AWD of the R32 which sticks like glue in any conditions!!

I must applaud you for not being too embarrassed to share that valuable lesson with others here that might learn from it.

Robert · 05-21-2008, 12:44 PM

Still be extra careful in the parking lot. This guy on e90post lost control in a parking lot and hit a tree.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143283

stampchez · 05-21-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robert

Still be extra careful in the parking lot. This guy on e90post lost control in a parking lot and hit a tree.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143283

W(hy)tf was the idiot doing 55 in a parking lot?

mistermojorizin · 05-21-2008, 02:06 PM

i used to turn all the nanies off in my vette all the time with no problem. but in the g35, the ass would come out way too easily and unexpectadly in turns even in perfectly dry conditions. so i just kept it on all the time. in hte 135 I am planning to keep it on too. just not worth the risk.

JCtx · 05-21-2008, 03:02 PM

Electronic 'nannies' are always desirable in adverse conditions; I don't care how well you drive. I wish my GTO had it for those times; with LSD, relatively skinny (stock) summer tires, and front heavy bias is a handful if you're not VERY careful with the throttle. The BMW is a MUCH better balanced car, but it has its limits too.

Playing in dry pavement is fun, however, but you still have to know what you're doing if you start pushing the envelope. It's awesome being able to steer a car with both the throttle and steering wheel. Later.
JC

05-21-2008, 08:09 AM	#1
NY SLC 93 Captain 86 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Lesson Learned Do not switch off traction control in the rain. I almost lost it yesterday...one day after picking her up!! I have a lot to learn with this car, I'm so used to the AWD of the R32 which sticks like glue in any conditions!!
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JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	Thank God you don't have a limited-slip differential; you lose the rear a lot easier that way. Glad nothing happened. Take care. JC
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IDBMW Captain 41 Rep 825 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, ID iTrader: (0)	There are people on this forum that think they can recover from loosing it better than DSC. They say DSC is crap. They most likely have been to a few performance driving schools so they know everything about driving. This is a good example of how I tried to tell them they are wrong! On the track DSC off is great but on the track you don’t have curbs and other obstacles including people but I am not going to get into that. I do not know the exact number but when DSC activates it breaks each wheel independently about 100 times a second. There is no way a human can come close to that. Anyway I am glad you learned your lesson and no one got hurt and your car is not damaged. And I agree with adc, join SCCA and go to some of there workshops. Until you have a chance to go to one of there workshops the big parking lot is a good idea to get the feeling of the car. I do it in the snow with my cars every year just for a re-fresher and have some easy drifting fun in the snow. __________________ 2019 X3 M40i - Black Sapphire Metallic - Mocha Lather - 21" 718M wheels - Every option except Sun Shade
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mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	i used to turn all the nanies off in my vette all the time with no problem. but in the g35, the ass would come out way too easily and unexpectadly in turns even in perfectly dry conditions. so i just kept it on all the time. in hte 135 I am planning to keep it on too. just not worth the risk. __________________ "KOPEYKA" /// Titanium Silver / Black Leather / Gray Poplar / Sport Package / Premium Package / 6MT / Feb 08 Production
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JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	Electronic 'nannies' are always desirable in adverse conditions; I don't care how well you drive. I wish my GTO had it for those times; with LSD, relatively skinny (stock) summer tires, and front heavy bias is a handful if you're not VERY careful with the throttle. The BMW is a MUCH better balanced car, but it has its limits too. Playing in dry pavement is fun, however, but you still have to know what you're doing if you start pushing the envelope. It's awesome being able to steer a car with both the throttle and steering wheel. Later. JC
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