N52 valvetronic remaps

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by Drawn05

if it works then $2000 for 35kw stock and more with bolt-ons, is pretty good for N/A.

For me, $2000 for a tune is out of the question. In your case there are bigger gains to be had if you're getting 35killerwasps at the crank, but it still seems expensive unfortunately.

[Drawn05]

Well as I said in my reply to andrews post; I was just guessing about prices as we have not much else to go on.

It obviously sounds as though they have no interest in doing tunes for the n52 and I have no interest in making anyone do it.

Its weird, I must of been coming to this forum for about 15 months before I first joined and posted; and I seem to remember many 125 owners complaining that nothing was available. But now....all quiet except for me (as far as the 125), and its getting a bit too weird for my liking.

Anyway, hope it goes well at marranos.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

First up, Sonny at Marranos was great and he seems real knowledgable. There were 4 holdens in the workshop alongside an E55, ML63 and E60 5series engine unknown.

He got the power out of that E46 I mentioned earlier by doing intake mods, full exhaust system (headers back) and a tune. His tune is based off the powerchip but he does custom tuning on it to suit the engine.
Whilst I'm sure he can get 30w+ out of my car, here comes the issue which is the $ and it's out of my budget. I was hoping to spend $1500-2000 on tune/freer flowing exhaust but it would of been well above that.

Looks like I'll now try an 'off the shelf' tune either AA or OE and get an exhaust shop to make up some 2 x 2.25inch piping for me and add in some high flow cats.

Put me down for that OE group buy and I'll try rally up some other N52 equipped E9Xs

[andrew@southernBM]

Originally Posted by Drawn05

Whooah. I put you in the doghouse with AA? How?

I contacted Viral and asked if there was anything he could do re: what jeremy at OE offered (detailed in earlier post), thought it unlikely but I also thought there is no harm in asking what he could do. He replied by saying that either you or Loren should be able to do it locally. I obviously said what Loren told me, which is that it cant be done (didnt see it as a complaint but as a reality, and to see if there were any other options).

He said that it could be an issue regarding Lorens equipment (and i guess yours by default) and I comprehended that as something that was between AA and him (I didnt take that as you or loren being obliged to buy equipment you dont think would be profitable). I was just after any feasble solution that wasnt the old send your ECU overseas.

If you guys dont see a business case for doing n52 tunes then that is your right and I didnt criticize that (at least I beleive I didnt and it certainly wasnt my intention). If AA thinks something else, are you really blaming me for that? I still find it odd that you think your business relationship would be soured because one guy in oz sent them email asking for options regarding a tune they sell. From my limited dealing with viral he seems like a reasonable guy.

AS per the cost, well I have no idea, for the individual or the business. The only thing I have to go off at this stage is whatever AA etc. have on their website or what is posted on e90. I am the consumer and I can only speculate.

Either way, I need a beer.

If you spoke to Viral and said this as you said earlier "AA has a tune like this but the 2 resellers in oz dont want to know about it" then they can't look upon that and think i'm doing a good job of selling there products, would they. So yes that would be from your direct input into this. I just wished to post factual information about what is required in order for this to happen rather and the issue regarding costs

[andrew@southernBM]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

Andrew we're just trying to extra some extra ponies from our N52 WITHOUT upgrading to an N54.

If we were to drive to Melbourne could you do the AA tune for us?
What if we were to organise a group buy of 5 x N52 tunes or something, would that make it worth your while or bring the price down to something more reasonable?

I'm about to go visit Sonny and have a chat to him. I haven't heard great things about powerchip in the past (from memory they have been quite expensive as well).

No i cannot at this point in time install an AA tune for 125i, no-one in Australia can, currently. As i stated earlier we haven't tooled up as there was no serious interest in Australia for 125i's from my research, i was even asking participants from this forum while they were at my shop offering free tunes but couldn't get anyone to commit....anyhow, let me know what interest you get for the group buy and i'll see what i can do.

[Drawn05]

Originally Posted by andrew@southernBM

If you spoke to Viral and said this as you said earlier "AA has a tune like this but the 2 resellers in oz dont want to know about it" then they can't look upon that and think i'm doing a good job of selling there products, would they. So yes that would be from your direct input into this. I just wished to post factual information about what is required in order for this to happen rather and the issue regarding costs

Well, I didnt say that to Viral. If I have caused grief for you I am sorry but that was not my intention. All I did was ask him if there were any cards left on the table as far as my options were concerned as you or Loren couldnt do it locally. I think its a fair comment, not a personal attack.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by andrew@southernBM

No i cannot at this point in time install an AA tune for 125i, no-one in Australia can, currently. As i stated earlier we haven't tooled up as there was no serious interest in Australia for 125i's from my research, i was even asking participants from this forum while they were at my shop offering free tunes but couldn't get anyone to commit....anyhow, let me know what interest you get for the group buy and i'll see what i can do.

I'm actually in a 325i E92 ... N52B25 engine I believe.

[Cruiser]

My Warrantee is still very new...but I know I am watching this thread with interest...!

[QSH17Z]

Originally Posted by Drawn05

I seem to remember many 125 owners complaining that nothing was available. But now....all quiet except for me (as far as the 125), and its getting a bit too weird for my liking.

I would be pretty interested in a tune offering 130i power / torque figures. My ideal car would be a 130i coupe rather than a choice between 125i or 135i. Always want what I can't have!

[Bmpete]

I certainly would be interested if 190kw was possible. Would there be any drive train issues or is manual gearbox clutch etc the same in 125s

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Bmpete

I certainly would be interested if 190kw was possible. Would there be any drive train issues or is manual gearbox clutch etc the same in 125s

A 30kw increase shouldn't cause any issues with the gearbox or other drivetrain components. I'm sure they use the exact same parts for the 130i.

135i's pushing ridiculous amounts of power run stock trannies with no issue.

[Bmpete]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

A 30kw increase shouldn't cause any issues with the gearbox or other drivetrain components. I'm sure they use the exact same parts for the 130i.

135i's pushing ridiculous amounts of power run stock trannies with no issue.

Cheers

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

only problem is getting your hands on a tune that does just that!!

[Drawn05]

Ok, so I have the prices back from Jeremy at OE Tuning.

Price per Kit is US$395 with US$50 for postage. (Aus Dollar is currently 1.01).

Please PM me or post here if you are interested in this. If you want more details about the tune, there are plenty of posts over in the US section of these forums and feel free to contact OE Tuning yourself (I have no affiliation with them, just trying to get a tune). That said, I do not mind passing on any questions about the tune or the process to Jeremy if it helps some make a decision.

So to recap:

-We need at least 5 people wanting to buy the tune
-Comes with the EZ Flash module (you dont need to send you ECU overseas)
-Its for the 128i and should take advantage of our 3 stage intake manifolds
-Dynos listed in other threads and on their website are with 91 AKI (95 RON Fuel)

Maybe I should start a new thread in the group buy section.

Edit: bmroxm5, the 2.5l 325 was sold as the 323i in canada, I saw Viral post on the other threads that they might have something for it soon, but I dont know if OE tuning would also have a 323 tune. I will ask him and let you know.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Thanks Drawn, please ask for me and then put me down for the groupbuy if it's applicable to me!

[Drawn05]

Originally Posted by bmroxm5

Thanks Drawn, please ask for me and then put me down for the groupbuy if it's applicable to me!

Will do. What year was your 325i made in?

I still dont get why the US 325i gets the b30 but our 325i are still using the b25?

Anyway I will let you know what he can do.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

MY2008.

US version - no 3 stage intake manifold
Aus/Euro version - 3 stage intake manifold.

They have different airfilters too! US uses a panel, whereas Aus/Euro uses a cone style.

[Drawn05]

Well, on their website they offer a tune for the e60 525i which uses the same engine and DME, claiming about a 10kw increase. I would think a version for the 325i 2.5l would be easy for them, but I will see what he says.

[chylld]

Originally Posted by Drawn05

Go look at the e90 forums if you want to see the OE, Active and ESS tunes

my mate just tried to ESS-tune his Z4 sDrive35i and nearly bricked it, long crank and electronics going crazy. took 8 goes to flash it back to stock

[Drawn05]

Nasty. Arent piggybacks like the BMS stuff more of an easier solution for n54 owners (from what I have read anyway)?

The ESS stuff seems to be the least mentioned on the US threads.

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

So it works for an N52B25?

If so I'll post it up on E90Post and get a few more people in.

[Drawn05]

I am at work so I cant check my personal emails, but will when I get home.

Personally I dont think we will get the numbers for this to work.