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      05-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #23
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I wanted a nice street car but also a car that would do well on the track but not at the M3's price tag. So I needed a coupe with the best hp/weight ratio, and the 135 is it (in BMW's range).
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      05-17-2009, 05:32 PM   #24
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      05-17-2009, 05:40 PM   #25
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simply put: its one of the most fun to drive/best performing cars for its price range. Also, like others stated, it is as close to being the complete package as possible compared to other cars (370z, sti, evo etc..)
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      05-17-2009, 06:14 PM   #26
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Cause I wanted a fast convertible that carries 4 and didn't weigh almost 4000lbs or cost me over $75K.
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      05-17-2009, 07:13 PM   #27
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I might be alone in saying this after reading so many reviews, and even some on this very forum, but:

I just like the way it looks
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      05-17-2009, 07:33 PM   #28
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I chose the 135 over the 335 because it was smaller and I liked the way it looked better. And if it has the same engine, why wouldn't I? Besides, 3-series is a dime-a-dozen; so tired of seeing them.
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      05-17-2009, 07:45 PM   #29
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Actually I had no idea about any issues with the 135i when I bought mine. I bought it beacuse I wanted a small sporty car that could hold more than 2 in a pinch.

Would I buy it again knowing all of the minor issues...hell yeah.
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No one has said the exclusiveness of this car, I love how people just race up to my car to stare at it and try to figure what bmw it is
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      05-17-2009, 08:14 PM   #31
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i ordered and purchased mine sight unseen, simply because it looks great, has the n54, makes retarded amounts of torque off idle, and is SMALL. could've had the 3'er or for less money even.
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That's funny. WHen I bought my 135i I actually could've bought a 335i with similar options for the same or less with incentives.
Not now. I don't know if it did ever.
Base price on the 135i is $35,850
The 335i coupe is $42,200
The 335i sedan is $40,300
Options in both lines run about the same.

The same price point, almost, is the 328i coupe at $36,500

Given the leasing rates, a 328Ci w/ prem and sport leases for less than the 135i. A 328i sedan with prem and sport leases about the same as a 135i prem and sport. Now that I mention it, the 128i vert w/ prem and sport leases for about the same as the 135i prem sport.
For my state taxes, these cars run a low of $522 for the 328Ci to mid $550 for the 135i

BTW: These lease costs take into account ONLY the negotiated price of the car. I pay all fees up front. So, compare only the negotiated price for your deal, NOTHING else, as fees and taxes vary state to state.
For example, in my state we only pay tax on the monthly lease, not the price of the car.
In the city of Chicago, you pay the taxes for the purchase price, AND then you also pay a monthly sales tax on the lease payment
Caveat emptor, and go in informed. The web is your friend.

The 135i lets you get into the mega power of the twin turbo for the cost of a 328i/Ci.
You lose the space and the more refined ride and handling of the 3 series.

As you can tell, I've been really looking into which one I want.

The 135i's biggest draw is it's powerful 3.0TT engine.
However, in terms of handling and ride refinement, it doesn't match the 3 series sport pkg.

My first picks right now is the 135i coupe and the 328i sedan sport, with the 328Ci running right with the sedan.

I'm debating between the raw power of the 135i or the better handling/refinement of the $328i/Ci

Going to a 335i or 335Ci is a doable jump in price, but I just dont' want to do that. I've got other hobbies I want to spend money on. My musical gear and my audio/video gear gets pricey too.

Overall though, these are all BMW's and damn fine automobiles no matter the configuration. Power is a seductive temptress, but some of us so is handling. Thus, my dilema. Argggggggh! I really need to decide and put the order in by this week!

As far as "all those problems", ALL cars have issues. This is a forum of enthusiasts who discuss everything, and more often tend to post when there is a problem. That's good as it keeps the community informed.
If you read "all those problems", then you should have also read that BMW takes care of it's issues. In fact, BMW is not the ONLY manufacturer that includes FREE maintenance. Audi and MB charge extra.
Yes, that does mean BMW believes in it's products.

I am not the least bit swayed from the 135i knowing that some of the cars have had some problems. EVERY manufacturer has some problems some time.

BTW, I shopped the STI, that's a nice driving Subaru. Funny thing though, while driving I said to the sales guy, "This is nice. The suspension feels a lot like a BMW. Nice ride and it sticks too, good compromise."
The STI is also a car where many have said, "its a bit soft."
Go drive an EVO of any vintage. Yeah, it sticks to the road like bum on a boloney sandwhich, but the ride makes your kidneys stick to the top of your hip bones. OUCH.
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      05-17-2009, 09:00 PM   #33
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I own impreza sti 07. And it's unreliable car ... bad stock tune, bad stock pistons ... (crappy euro 2.5l engine).
Now after 3 years with subaru (all in all it is very fun car, except that !@#% engine) i'm looking to replace it.
STi 08-09 no way, no way again that crap engine ! Mitsu evo x - too refined and problems with mitsu tuners in my area. 370z -2seater. So basically my choise is bmw 135i. But after looking at forums, seems that problem with hpfp is the same as subaru and it's 2.5l engine (well, 2.0l JDM engine is awesome). And i don't want to think in my trips will my hpfp fail or not. So i don't want to replace one unreliable car with another . Another point - my suby is heavily modded (upgraded turbo, suspension etc). So I need a car that handles and accelerates at least as stock STi. 135i do only part of this job - accelerating. As for handling ... after suby ... 135i handles like sofa ... that's bad (for ME). I think i won't solve handling problems with only coilovers. Soft stock bushings ...
As far as i read forums ... i think more ... can 135i replace my suby or not ? ... damn ...

again sorry for my english ...
The 135i is faster to 60, faster in the 1/4, faster to 100mph, and has a higher top speed. It's more refined all around and in every detail.
It comes with BMW service that will send someone to come get you and your BMW and take you to the nearest BMW dealership to fix what's wrong. And, it's included in the price.
If you buy, your BMW will also have an excellent resale value to boot.
Your STI has AWD, so if you drive in areas with snow and cold, the 135i will have to be driven slower, but it will still make it.
RWD can't beat AWD for those conditions. My A4 drives circles around my 325i in those conditions. But, I didn't buy my A4 nor my 325i based on which car will let me drive like a madman in bad road conditions.
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      05-17-2009, 09:11 PM   #34
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Comments about the issues:

1. Had my car for almost 1 year at 20k km.. and no HPFP problem
2. Never thought my car is unstable at high speeds and now even with all my mods pushing over 400hp I don't feel it but its maybe only me.
3. The 135i is an everyday sports coupe made for everyday driving which I would not compare a "rally" inspired car which is cheap in material and made for a different purpose.

Now why I bought this car:

1. smaller
2. good engine which is ez to mod (love the stock bbk)
3. is a drivers car with out all the gadgets which leads to problems

I did not think it was due to price as a 335i would have cost me 2k more which is nothing since I can write off my car due to my job.
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      05-17-2009, 09:20 PM   #35
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Because the 335i I traded in on the 135i looked and drove like a Honda Accord coupe. The 135i looks like a BMW and is a joy to drive.
A 335i looks and handles like a Honda Accord coupe?

Ok, now, I'll say YOU'RE crazy.

No, way does the 1 series handle and ride better than the 3 series, especially the 335i.

Granted, before the 2009 appearance refresher, the 3 series didn't look as "sporty" or even nice as the E46 3 series, but to compare it to a Honda Accord, and the to say the 135i is better, makes me say you either didn't have a 335i or you're being a 1 series fanboy.
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      05-17-2009, 09:23 PM   #36
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A 335i looks and handles like a Honda Accord coupe?

Ok, now, I'll say YOU'RE crazy.

No, way does the 1 series handle and ride better than the 3 series, especially the 335i.

Granted, before the 2009 appearance refresher, the 3 series didn't look as "sporty" or even nice as the E46 3 series, but to compare it to a Honda Accord, and the to say the 135i is better, makes me say you either didn't have a 335i or you're being a 1 series fanboy.
I disagree that the 335i drives and handles like an accord however I do agree the 135i drives better then the 335i.
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      05-17-2009, 09:27 PM   #37
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I bought this car because it's a great package. It has the performance without comprimsing the badge and the luxuries associated with it. Afterall BMW's are nice cars... The fun factor in driving this car is on another level and I love how the torque comes in so early - makes daily driving something I look forward to.
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      05-17-2009, 09:35 PM   #38
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No, way does the 1 series handle and ride better than the 3 series, especially the 335i.
135i has a sportier drive feel and handles better than a 335i coupe. The 335i feels more floaty than the last gen 3 series. The 335i feels loose over bumps on a freeway. Thats why i lowered it. I also lowered the 135 but its no M and never will handle like one unless you do SERIOUS work to it. But the 135 does handle better than a 3 series.

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That's funny. WHen I bought my 135i I actually could've bought a 335i with similar options for the same or less with incentives.
Not now. I don't know if it did ever.
It took a few months before many people saw more than ~$500 off MSRP on the 1's (threads claiming bigger discounts were a big deal for a few months) while discounts on the 3's were much larger. The 1's also received less attractive financing and lease rates for quite a while. The 1's are definitely less expensive now but these two factors resulted in a "new model" premium for those who picked up one of the early 1's.

There should still be several threads floating around where people complained about e82 135i leases costing more month-to-month than e92 335i leases over the same period and with the same amount at signing. IMO, this is part of the reason there was a smaller percentage of leased 1's for a while - the lease terms were horrible.

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135i has a sportier drive feel and handles better than a 335i coupe. The 335i feels more floaty than the last gen 3 series. The 335i feels loose over bumps on a freeway. Thats why i lowered it. I also lowered the 135 but its no M and never will handle like one unless you do SERIOUS work to it. But the 135 does handle better than a 3 series.

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That's really interesting because what you've just said is what I would say except change the 135i to 335i.

The 3 series rides better, and handles better. It's suspension is better sorted in that the balance of grip to ride is better. The 3 doesn't feel bumpy over odd road undulations like the 1 does. The 3 doesn't skitter and lose grip around mid-corner bumps and road imperfections like the 1 series does.

Maybe your 335i didn't have the sport suspension?
Oh, also I was talking about the sedan. I'm not too familiar with the 335i coupe, but I would guess they share the same suspension and tuning as they nearly identical in size and weight and weight balance.

I LOVED my E46 sport 325i. That ride and handling was sublime for a 4 door sedan. That was a chassis in need of more power. The 135i feels like a lot of power in need of a better chassis.

BTW, "lowering" does nothing really unless you also add the proper dampers to control the spring. A lot of people simple add lower, and maybe stiffer rate springs, and then think the ride is now sportier.
I'm not directing this at you, btw.
However, the opposite almost always happens. The get a shorter spring to lower the car, along with a stiffer rate, and the problem becomes that now there is less suspension travel. That's bad. Also, people keep the stock dampers that are setup for a certain rate spring, then when a stiffer spring is installed the dampers can't control the oscillations as the spring rate is too heavy for the stock dampers to control.

That's the feeling I get sometimes in the 135i. It feels as if the dampers can't control the springs. There is almost too much rebound damping.
Once you hit a bump the tire rides up, but then it feels like the tire returns way too hard. The suspension is soft on the initial bump, but the rebound isn't set right.
The 135i vert feels better on the bumps even though the body is not as sturdy.
I'm wondering if BMW tuned the 135i sport suspension for the heavier vert, and used it on the coupe as well. The vert feels to absorb the bumps better and still gives a nice ride. The coupe feels very nice, except for certain conditions like mid-corner bumps, it doesn't handle them as well as the sedan does. And, on a highway the 135i tends to be a bit "bouncy" at times, but that's also more to do with it's shorter wheelbase along with damping.

Does anyone know if the springs and shocks are different for the 135i vert compared to the 135i coupe?
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I think the suspension is firm and more than adequate for normal to agressive street driving. I don't think the car is instable in high speed although I have not driven it to 150 mph yet. I think that it is a great car with good price and decent gas milage.
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Why did I buy 135i?

I took a test-drive. On that ride I lost my logical reasoning abilities.
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I took a test-drive. On that ride I lost my logical reasoning abilities.
Heard that! My first test drive was insane and I was hooked. I was dead set on a standard transmission and I had so much fun with the paddles and all that torque, I completely caved... there are millions of 3's around here so as much as I liked it the one was just as nice and just as fast. It’s the perfect car for this single dad and his two girls... They love the car more than I do. A two seater wasnt really an option since i have to have 3 seats and out of all the sporty coups this was/is the best fit for me...
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