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      05-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #309
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Can someone confirm if the correct oil was used in my oil change? The part number isn't the same as one from the OP but I think it might be the bulk part number. The oil filter part number matches though.
Also I think they made a typo with the "70"?

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Can someone confirm if the correct oil was used in my oil change? The part number isn't the same as one from the OP but I think it might be the bulk part number. The oil filter part number matches though.
Also I think they made a typo with the "70"?
Best thing to do is ask your dealer what they used. Maybe ask to see an oil bottle and read the label. IF it says LL-1 or Long Life 1, you are fine. If it doesn't have a BMW LL-1 rating I would change your oil again and use the correct oil. Just because a dealer shanged your oil doesn't mean they are using the correct oil. Its just the oil THEY want to sell and make money off of. Each dealer is independent of BMW NA and BMW AG.
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      05-21-2013, 10:09 AM   #311
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Hey Dack, since I'm CONUS now what do you think... change out from LL-4 to LL-1 soon or wait the 4-5 months until next oil change?
(Should take that long to get to 5k miles)

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      05-21-2013, 10:28 AM   #312
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Best thing to do is ask your dealer what they used. Maybe ask to see an oil bottle and read the label. IF it says LL-1 or Long Life 1, you are fine. If it doesn't have a BMW LL-1 rating I would change your oil again and use the correct oil. Just because a dealer shanged your oil doesn't mean they are using the correct oil. Its just the oil THEY want to sell and make money off of. Each dealer is independent of BMW NA and BMW AG.
Will do...I'll drop by the dealer today on the way home and find out. I googled the part number and a couple of postings popped up, 1 mainly being an F10 M5 owner who took their vehicle in for a run-in service and they used that oil.
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      05-21-2013, 10:37 AM   #313
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Hey Dack, since I'm CONUS now what do you think... change out from LL-4 to LL-1 soon or wait the 4-5 months until next oil change?
(Should take that long to get to 5k miles)

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Since your back in the states where the fuel has high sulfur content... I would switch to an LL-1 oil. Sooner rather than later. But thats just me, I'm slightly OCD.
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      05-21-2013, 10:44 AM   #314
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Slightly? lol.
What's the major difference anyway? Does the high sulfur fuel burn hotter or something?

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      05-21-2013, 10:51 AM   #315
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Slightly? lol.
What's the major difference anyway? Does the high sulfur fuel burn hotter or something?

Thx again
It has to do with the wear in the cylinder walls and pistons and piston rings. BMW had a big, big problem in the early 1990's with their US V8 engines. They ended up replacing A LOT of engine's under a special extended warranty program. It was traced to the US high sulfur fuels. That was when BMW started testing and approving special oil for each market.

I would use only an LL-1 oil in your car.
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Got it, thanks. Definitely sounds like a "sooner rather than later" situation.
I'll get the E91 changed out ASAP as well then.

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      05-27-2013, 11:15 PM   #317
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Anyone able to check this oil number or know what oil it is - 83221467993? This oil was used in my 1200 mile diff. service in Nov. '11 and it does not match the specified oil 83222282583 for the differential. Is it SAF-XJ? Is it for limited slip? Is it 75w140? I checked several sites and it only says 0.5L of diff oil. Thanks.

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      05-28-2013, 07:30 AM   #318
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As long as what ever you use has a "BMW Long Life-1" or "LL-1" rating you will be fine.

I really prefer Castrol oil. BMW does too. I really did not buy into this Castrol stuff in the beginning. At first I was using Mobil-1 LL-1 0w40 oil. Then I decided to "try" German Castol RS Edge LL-1 0w40. I noticed two things at first... 1), with the Castrol my engine was MUCH quieter on cold starts. Much less metallic tapping. Also the engine seemed to warm up faster AND the oil temp gauge would read about two needle widths cooler than with the Mobil-1.

I was sold on using Castrol oil since then. The Castrol oil really seems to work better in our cars. Just my two cents worth.
On mine they did : EDGE PROF.BMW LL04 0W-30

Running for 2 years now on this one and no problems, must be not that bad
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On mine they did : EDGE PROF.BMW LL04 0W-30

Running for 2 years now on this one and no problems, must be not that bad
Yea... I also use (German made)Castrol oil. At first I used Castrol Edge RS 0w40 LL-4. Now I am using Castrol Edge FST 0w40.

There are many places on line in DE that sell a 5L jug for ~43 euros. Normally this oil is around 100 euros for a 5L jug.
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Anyone able to check this oil number or know what oil it is - 83221467993? This oil was used in my 1200 mile diff. service in Nov. '11 and it does not match the specified oil 83222282583 for the differential. Is it SAF-XJ? Is it for limited slip? Is it 75w140? I checked several sites and it only says 0.5L of diff oil. Thanks.
Can anyone look this number up? I checked several sites and all I can find is that it is 1/2 ltr of Diff oil. Need to know if has +FM.
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Can anyone look this number up? I checked several sites and all I can find is that it is 1/2 ltr of Diff oil. Need to know if has +FM.
Some dealers make up their own part number for oil when they "bill it out" on a repair order invoice. Thats bc they often buy the oil in a large barrel 60L or 600L and then bill it out in 1L increments. I am affraid you will need to ask your dealer.
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      10-17-2013, 09:46 PM   #322
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Just had an oil change today at the dealership the filter has the correct number but the oil is

83212318912

Has anyone seen this motor oil number? This is so confusing, do I need to worry?
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      10-18-2013, 03:23 PM   #323
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Just had an oil change today at the dealership the filter has the correct number but the oil is

83212318912

Has anyone seen this motor oil number? This is so confusing, do I need to worry?
Same answer as I gave one post above(#324). Your dealer probably just buys in bulk and uses a made up part number for repair order billing purposes.


Go back to your dealer and ask for more details and what type of oil and its specs - were used in your car. This is one of the reasons why I do all my oil changes myself. Because I know I dd the job right AND I used the correct oils.
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Same answer as I gave one post above(#324). Your dealer probably just buys in bulk and uses a made up part number for repair order billing purposes.


Go back to your dealer and ask for more details and what type of oil and its specs - were used in your car. This is one of the reasons why I do all my oil changes myself. Because I know I dd the job right AND I used the correct oils.
Thanks David. I went to the dealer this morning and they told me exactly what you said. It's Castrol Bulk 5w30, they said the code is also changed due to US and Canada now uses separate set of codes as well.
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Just went over my invoice tonight for the 45000 km service I had done a couple of weeks ago. Wrong tranny fluid used. I just sent an email explaining that -LT2 is incorrect and -LT5 should be used.
Will report back. Engine oil and rear diff oil are correct.
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Currently, the parts guy is looking into it. I gave the reference for the servicing requirements, so should be a simple process.
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Just had service done at local dealer. I am guessing that this listed 83-22-0-406-582 is MTF-LT-2 fluid and is NOT the correct transmission oil? Dealer says they searched by VIN and this is what is listed proper for my car. Any advise appreciated.

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Just had service done at local dealer. I am guessing that this listed 83-22-0-406-582 is MTF-LT-2 fluid and is NOT the correct transmission oil? Dealer says they searched by VIN and this is what is listed proper for my car. Any advise appreciated.

I would have them tell you which MTF-LT oil they used. Only MTF-LT-5 is suppose to be used in the 1M. Most dealers only have LT-2 or LT-3 on hand since that is what is used on the M3. Check the first page of this FAQ for LT5 part numbers. You could also call that dealer's parts dept and give them the part number they billed out and see what fluid they say it is.

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LT-2 was definitely used in my transmission. Dealer insists that this is correct.
Gave them a copy of SI B00 01 10 dated May 2011 and they are "looking" into it.
When I get them to replace with the proper LT-5 fluid. Should this be subsequently done again, to ensure all of the "bad" fluid is gone?
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LT-2 was definitely used in my transmission. Dealer insists that this is correct.
Gave them a copy of SI B00 01 10 dated May 2011 and they are "looking" into it.
When I get them to replace with the proper LT-5 fluid. Should this be subsequently done again, to ensure all of the "bad" fluid is gone?
I personally think that would be over kill. But some guys did go thru that when the 1M's came in for their first service. Why does your dealer keep fighting you? I would just go to another dealer, have the fluid changed to the correct MTF-LT-5 and send them the bill. But that's me. Maybe take their temperature and see what they say.

Did your dealer use the SAF-XJ+FM gear fluid in the diff ? That's the correct fluid as well.

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