ROADANDTRACK: 135i FULL TEST!

BForbes · 03-20-2008, 01:09 PM

DATA PANEL:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...508_RT_BMW.pdf

ARTICLE:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6590

"The 135i revs freely to redline, and in testing it hit 60 mph in just 4.8 seconds. The quarter mile was covered in 13.4 sec. at a speed of 104.0 mph."

TrojanBMW · 03-20-2008, 01:20 PM

They did 0-60 in 4.8 secs. I guess the C&D number was legit.

JasonCSU · 03-20-2008, 01:21 PM

"M2.5"

I like that.

slipkmaggot · 03-20-2008, 01:27 PM

good find, was a good read

BForbes · 03-20-2008, 01:29 PM

I'm in love with R&T's data panels....I read it about 3 times. Going in for number 4...

TrojanBMW · 03-20-2008, 01:29 PM

"So the question is — do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?"

Oregon · 03-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

"M2.5"

I like that.

Ditto.

"a sort of entry-level vehicle into the world of M".

TrojanBMW · 03-20-2008, 01:32 PM

Based on the fact that the car did 150 @ 5300RPM in sixth gear, can we venture a guess what the car would do without a limiter?

larryn · 03-20-2008, 01:41 PM

Absolutely loved the last paragraph. It sums up one of the reasons that I bought the 135i, regardless of price:

Quote:

Originally Posted by R&T

The 135i is a driver's car, a "gotta have" car. The question, though, is at what price. The Euro has not been so kind to the dollar and that's reflected in the 135i's base price of $34,900. Throw on a premium package that includes the glove-soft Boston leather and you're in the neighborhood of $39,000. Add navigation and you've zoomed past 40 large, which puts it solidly in the larger and more comfortable 3 Series territory. So the question is — do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?

Oregon · 03-20-2008, 01:45 PM

Drive. Oh, yes. Most definitely, DRIVE.

Chee135i · 03-20-2008, 01:57 PM

How much of a difference does the increase top speed limiter make.........i really messed up by ordering just the premium package on my bmw.....thinking about reordering my bmw with the sports package also...but my bmw is already at the preparation center

M3Newbie88 · 03-20-2008, 02:06 PM

DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE .. and thats enough comfort for me lol..

mistermojorizin · 03-20-2008, 02:10 PM

excellent article, thanks for the link. one thing that didn't make sense to me:

the article says: "So the question is — do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?"

the data panel says: "HANDLING: a tidy chassis makes the 135i feel more zippy than a 3 series, but its suspension setup resits oversteer at all costs. this provides a safety net during slalom runs, but detracts from its overall driving excitement."

Seems kinda inconsistent, to say the 1 drives better but then, when comparing a 1 to the 3 directly, they say the 1's suspension setup detracting from driving excitement.

BForbes · 03-20-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

excellent article, thanks for the link. one thing that didn't make sense to me:

the article says: "So the question is — do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?"

the data panel says: "HANDLING: a tidy chassis makes the 135i feel more zippy than a 3 series, but its suspension setup resits oversteer at all costs. this provides a safety net during slalom runs, but detracts from its overall driving excitement."

Seems kinda inconsistent, to say the 1 drives better but then, when comparing a 1 to the 3 directly, they say the 1's suspension setup detracting from driving excitement.

Hmm....good observation. I dont think they mean it detracts in regards to the 3. Just in general. There is always room for improvement.

ersatzS2 · 03-20-2008, 02:53 PM

Those guys are still the greatest, been reading R&T for 40 years. I think their characterizations are spot-on.

Looking at the data chart, I guess this is not new information but it really hit me: 52/48 is not 50/50. I guess that's w/driver. Really curious to discover what that rear ballast actually involves.

E82tt6 · 03-20-2008, 03:08 PM

Good article. I like the ending line!

Sounds like some bigger front tires are in order, at least.

bimmerfile · 03-20-2008, 04:11 PM

"do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?

"Well, do ya, punk?"

BForbes · 03-20-2008, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnut

"do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?

"Well, do ya, punk?"

Haha, that was awesome!!!

Lo0mis · 03-20-2008, 04:59 PM

On the data panel, under Instrumentation it says "Coolant temp, Fuel level". I thought it was supposed to be oil temp. Can someone confirm?

atr_hugo · 03-20-2008, 05:02 PM

It is oil temp.

mistermojorizin · 03-20-2008, 05:17 PM

here's a link to 335i (coupe; partial): http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...5i_vs_G37S.pdf
here's another (sedan; full info): http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...R_BMW_335i.pdf

Robert · 03-20-2008, 05:31 PM

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BForbes Moderator 559 Rep 4,240 Posts Drives: BSM 135i/AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	ROADANDTRACK: 135i FULL TEST! DATA PANEL: http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...508_RT_BMW.pdf ARTICLE: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6590 "The 135i revs freely to redline, and in testing it hit 60 mph in just 4.8 seconds. The quarter mile was covered in 13.4 sec. at a speed of 104.0 mph." __________________ - 04 Honda S2000(gone)
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TrojanBMW First Lieutenant 18 Rep 308 Posts Drives: Black 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	They did 0-60 in 4.8 secs. I guess the C&D number was legit.
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JasonCSU Colonel 702 Rep 2,548 Posts Drives: '08 135i, '88 325is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW 325is [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	"M2.5" I like that.
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slipkmaggot First Lieutenant 15 Rep 361 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	good find, was a good read __________________ :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel: :roundel:
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BForbes Moderator 559 Rep 4,240 Posts Drives: BSM 135i/AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	I'm in love with R&T's data panels....I read it about 3 times. Going in for number 4... __________________ - 04 Honda S2000(gone)
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TrojanBMW First Lieutenant 18 Rep 308 Posts Drives: Black 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	Based on the fact that the car did 150 @ 5300RPM in sixth gear, can we venture a guess what the car would do without a limiter?
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Chee135i New Member 1 Rep 15 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (0)	How much of a difference does the increase top speed limiter make.........i really messed up by ordering just the premium package on my bmw.....thinking about reordering my bmw with the sports package also...but my bmw is already at the preparation center
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M3Newbie88 Brigadier General 138 Rep 4,053 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (5)	DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE .. and thats enough comfort for me lol..
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03-20-2008, 02:10 PM	#13
mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	excellent article, thanks for the link. one thing that didn't make sense to me: the article says: "So the question is — do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive?" the data panel says: "HANDLING: a tidy chassis makes the 135i feel more zippy than a 3 series, but its suspension setup resits oversteer at all costs. this provides a safety net during slalom runs, but detracts from its overall driving excitement." Seems kinda inconsistent, to say the 1 drives better but then, when comparing a 1 to the 3 directly, they say the 1's suspension setup detracting from driving excitement.
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03-20-2008, 02:53 PM	#15
ersatzS2 Private First Class 16 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Those guys are still the greatest, been reading R&T for 40 years. I think their characterizations are spot-on. Looking at the data chart, I guess this is not new information but it really hit me: 52/48 is not 50/50. I guess that's w/driver. Really curious to discover what that rear ballast actually involves. __________________ 135i built 2/14/08 SGM w/Black and AL, 6 forward gears
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E82tt6 Colonel 103 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Good article. I like the ending line! Sounds like some bigger front tires are in order, at least. __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
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bimmerfile Colonel 621 Rep 2,067 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X2 F39 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GTA, Canada iTrader: (0)	"do you want comfort and size, or do you want to drive? "Well, do ya, punk?"
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Lo0mis New Member 4 Rep 22 Posts Drives: 2018 BSM M2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA iTrader: (0)	On the data panel, under Instrumentation it says "Coolant temp, Fuel level". I thought it was supposed to be oil temp. Can someone confirm?
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	It is oil temp.
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mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	here's a link to 335i (coupe; partial): http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...5i_vs_G37S.pdf here's another (sedan; full info): http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...R_BMW_335i.pdf
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