XIs' owners, any cons for you car?

18LLC · 11-20-2005, 11:28 PM

Just wondering, because I didn't hear anything bad for XI yet. Thanks. BTW, my XI is one the way

Oz · 11-21-2005, 02:29 AM

I guess none. Congrats on the xi! I would have maybe gotten one if they had one avalaible during the summer.

RICH2005 · 11-21-2005, 08:53 AM

As a former owner of a 2002 330xi the only minor disadvantages of the XI are slightly decreased gas mileage, an extra 200 pounds of weight, and it is much harder to intentionally oversteer the car and let the tail out when cornering

.In the snow and heavy rain this obviously can be a great advantage of the XI.

Bottom line, both are great cars and I don't think you can go wrong with either. When I bought my 330i in July the XI was not out yet, otherwise I would have test driven both before I bought!

driverseven · 11-21-2005, 09:11 AM

I got mine 2 days ago and it's been great.

Before I got it, I was also concerned that maybe I would have less fun driving with AWD but not at all. It's very agile. I have loads of curves and hills all around me and the handlng is just pinpoint tight.

I am coming from a BMW 528 which is far more responsive than most cars. The 325xi is an order of magnitude tighter.

18LLC, why did you get AWD in the Bay Area? For me, it was the combination of hills and snow. I'm guessing you drive up to the mountains? Or you concerned about Lombard Street?

afocoryw20 · 11-21-2005, 09:14 AM

I have an e90XI and there are NO issues. What issues were you looking for?

icedragon · 11-21-2005, 09:42 AM

No cons. My first car was a Subaru, so I love AWD.

espo · 11-21-2005, 09:43 AM

I got mine about a month ago (moved up from a 2003 325xi to a E90 300xi). Just drove it in the snow this week in OH (first time in the snow with a manual also), and it worked great, I couldn't even get the traction control to kick in (tried flooring it in 2nd, car just went!) and I couldn't get the back end around. I did however end up testing the anti-lock brakes

by accident.

In the dry I have noticed that it is more responsive on the curves then the 2003, maybe because of the wider 17" tires I have on this one. The power is definately there (and I'm still in the break in period). It is a blast to drive....

They are calling for a "major winter event" here this week so I'll try and get it out in a deserted parking lot and see how it responds (I always like to do that with any car so I know what it will do if some situation arises). But from what I've seen so for it's been great.

underDAWG · 11-21-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by espo89

They are calling for a "major winter event" here this week

You guys are so lucky

I miss the 1977 winter in Buffalo, no school for two weeks and beer supplies depleted, Kissing Bridge and Holiday Valley all closed. My Honda Civic engine bay was hard packed with snow.

Those were the days.....

18LLC · 11-21-2005, 12:15 PM

Thanks for all the feed back, guys. Looks like XI have no any issues (So far), just want to prepare myself to check the car when it comes, so I won’t miss any of the problem to fix it. The reason y I go for XI is because one of the BMW engineer told me that BMW’s AWD is the best, better than STi and EVO, it’s heavy duty truck system. Even I don’t know what is that mean, but who cares, it’s BMW!!!. BTW, my car just hit to the port this morning.

Oz · 11-21-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by espo89

I got mine about a month ago (moved up from a 2003 325xi to a E90 300xi). Just drove it in the snow this week in OH (first time in the snow with a manual also), and it worked great, I couldn't even get the traction control to kick in (tried flooring it in 2nd, car just went!) and I couldn't get the back end around. I did however end up testing the anti-lock brakes

by accident.

In the dry I have noticed that it is more responsive on the curves then the 2003, maybe because of the wider 17" tires I have on this one. The power is definately there (and I'm still in the break in period). It is a blast to drive....

They are calling for a "major winter event" here this week so I'll try and get it out in a deserted parking lot and see how it responds (I always like to do that with any car so I know what it will do if some situation arises). But from what I've seen so for it's been great.

What part of Buffalo are you from Espo? I have seen a few 330xi's out there and it might just be you

xdrive · 11-21-2005, 01:05 PM

I too have ordered an xi. As far as the xdrive being the best AWD system, I beg to differ. I would say Acura's SH-AWD is better since it not only transfer power to the front and back, but also left and right. I'm pretty sure the xdrive just transfers power to the front and back only.

Oz · 11-21-2005, 01:06 PM

How does Subarus AWD system compare to xdrive?

Bimmerista · 11-21-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrive

I too have ordered an xi. As far as the xdrive being the best AWD system, I beg to differ. I would say Acura's SH-AWD is better since it not only transfer power to the front and back, but also left and right. I'm pretty sure the xdrive just transfers power to the front and back only.

Don't fall for the marketing hype; BMW (and other car manufactuers) use the ABS to "transfer power"; by braking the wheel spinning until the spin stops. Honda/Acura's actually increases the power a little on the other wheel-marketing move only, since if they increased it substantially, it would make the only other gripping wheel spinn !! It was a nice attempt at getting some mileage out of a technology which they offered as mee too.

PS. to this day, torsen AWD is the better system and to this day Audi makes the best of those.

having said this, the Xdrive BMW offers is extremely good, and because the only differences are at the limit (extreme driving conditions) for most of us there will no be tangible disadvantage to the BMW system.

When the x3 was introduced in europe, german tests were able to stomp the Xdrive by hitting the gas while trying to get out of a snow bank. The car would seize up and the computer would flash the yellow light. Apparently they had to wait 20-30 minutes for the computer to reset before being able to re-attempt to get the car out.

espo · 11-21-2005, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oz

What part of Buffalo are you from Espo? I have seen a few 330xi's out there and it might just be you

Amherst (well actually Synder).

Oz · 11-21-2005, 02:56 PM

Im in Amherst as well and stay at UB North Campus. Close

fdc · 11-21-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18LLC

Just wondering, because I didn't hear anything bad for XI yet. Thanks. BTW, my XI is one the way

Since I got mine I actually spend a lot of time driving and less time
on the e90post .... is this a good or a bad sign ?
anyway the car is simply amazing .... I tried on the snow the other
day and it is solid as a rock,

fdc

LEDZEP · 11-21-2005, 07:32 PM

None yet, but too early to tell. It's only a month old.

CALIF65GM · 11-23-2005, 10:53 PM

Put about 750 miles on it in a week in Europe. I didn't notice much difference from the 330 SP RWD that I tested. I don't think I felt the bumps as much and didn't notice any weight issues. Biggest thing that I was concerned about was that it would be noticeably higher like the e46 versions, but it's not.

lhoboy8 · 11-24-2005, 12:46 AM

Seriously, I hardly notice the higher position compared to my e46 2 door. The handling is even more amazing then the e46, and comparable to the e90 325i I test drove. I love my e90xi, it flies.

DannyDeez · 11-25-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmerista

PS. to this day, torsen AWD is the better system and to this day Audi makes the best of those.

Ive never driven any other AWD car except mine, but I have to say Audi's Quattro really kicks ass in the snow.

11-20-2005, 11:28 PM	#1
18LLC Major General 148 Rep 5,104 Posts Drives: e89 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California iTrader: (0)	XIs' owners, any cons for you car? Just wondering, because I didn't hear anything bad for XI yet. Thanks. BTW, my XI is one the way
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11-21-2005, 02:29 AM	#2
Oz Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	I guess none. Congrats on the xi! I would have maybe gotten one if they had one avalaible during the summer. __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter
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11-21-2005, 08:53 AM	#3
RICH2005 Private 1 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: VANCOUVER iTrader: (0)	As a former owner of a 2002 330xi the only minor disadvantages of the XI are slightly decreased gas mileage, an extra 200 pounds of weight, and it is much harder to intentionally oversteer the car and let the tail out when cornering .In the snow and heavy rain this obviously can be a great advantage of the XI. Bottom line, both are great cars and I don't think you can go wrong with either. When I bought my 330i in July the XI was not out yet, otherwise I would have test driven both before I bought!
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11-21-2005, 09:11 AM	#4
driverseven Curve junky 16 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 228 Black Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Westchester, NY iTrader: (0)	I got mine 2 days ago and it's been great. Before I got it, I was also concerned that maybe I would have less fun driving with AWD but not at all. It's very agile. I have loads of curves and hills all around me and the handlng is just pinpoint tight. I am coming from a BMW 528 which is far more responsive than most cars. The 325xi is an order of magnitude tighter. 18LLC, why did you get AWD in the Bay Area? For me, it was the combination of hills and snow. I'm guessing you drive up to the mountains? Or you concerned about Lombard Street? __________________ 228 \| In-service: Nov '14
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11-21-2005, 09:14 AM	#5
afocoryw20 Lieutenant 12 Rep 456 Posts Drives: X3 + 325xi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Jerz iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325XI [0.00] 2005 X3 [0.00] 1990 Mercedes Benz ... [0.00]	I have an e90XI and there are NO issues. What issues were you looking for? Last edited by afocoryw20; 11-21-2005 at 09:56 AM..
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11-21-2005, 09:43 AM	#7
espo Captain 12 Rep 715 Posts Drives: 2014 M235i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sugar Land TX iTrader: (0)	I got mine about a month ago (moved up from a 2003 325xi to a E90 300xi). Just drove it in the snow this week in OH (first time in the snow with a manual also), and it worked great, I couldn't even get the traction control to kick in (tried flooring it in 2nd, car just went!) and I couldn't get the back end around. I did however end up testing the anti-lock brakes by accident. In the dry I have noticed that it is more responsive on the curves then the 2003, maybe because of the wider 17" tires I have on this one. The power is definately there (and I'm still in the break in period). It is a blast to drive.... They are calling for a "major winter event" here this week so I'll try and get it out in a deserted parking lot and see how it responds (I always like to do that with any car so I know what it will do if some situation arises). But from what I've seen so for it's been great. __________________ E46 325xi Oxford Green/Sand Leatherette/Myrtle Wood Auto ZCW - Retired E90 330xi Mystic Blue/Black Leather/Aluminum 6sp Manual ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/CA - Retired F22 M235i Mineral Gray/Red Leather/Aluminum 6sp Manual ZPP/ZTP
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11-21-2005, 12:15 PM	#9
18LLC Major General 148 Rep 5,104 Posts Drives: e89 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the feed back, guys. Looks like XI have no any issues (So far), just want to prepare myself to check the car when it comes, so I won’t miss any of the problem to fix it. The reason y I go for XI is because one of the BMW engineer told me that BMW’s AWD is the best, better than STi and EVO, it’s heavy duty truck system. Even I don’t know what is that mean, but who cares, it’s BMW!!!. BTW, my car just hit to the port this morning.
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11-21-2005, 01:05 PM	#11
xdrive Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 250 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	I too have ordered an xi. As far as the xdrive being the best AWD system, I beg to differ. I would say Acura's SH-AWD is better since it not only transfer power to the front and back, but also left and right. I'm pretty sure the xdrive just transfers power to the front and back only.
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Oz Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	How does Subarus AWD system compare to xdrive? __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter
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Oz Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Im in Amherst as well and stay at UB North Campus. Close __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter
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CALIF65GM Colonel 97 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: e93-35 May08 ED Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: SF, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 06 - Oct. 05 build ... [0.00]	Put about 750 miles on it in a week in Europe. I didn't notice much difference from the 330 SP RWD that I tested. I don't think I felt the bumps as much and didn't notice any weight issues. Biggest thing that I was concerned about was that it would be noticeably higher like the e46 versions, but it's not. __________________ 5-2-08 e93-35 ED Montego w/Jade Grey, Step w/Paddles, PP, SP, CA, hot seats and iPod.Awaing re-delivery soon. Debadged 330xi ED 11/14/05 Auto/Mystic Blue/Gray leather with Alum/PP/SP/CA/Fold-down rear seats/Alarm. Sold to Carmax on 6/7/08 with 50,624 miles on clock
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11-24-2005, 12:46 AM	#19
lhoboy8 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 48 Posts Drives: e90 330xi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (0) Garage List 2000 323ci [0.00] 2006 330xi [0.00]	Seriously, I hardly notice the higher position compared to my e46 2 door. The handling is even more amazing then the e46, and comparable to the e90 325i I test drove. I love my e90xi, it flies.
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