For Xi Drives

RGRAY · 06-10-2006, 07:37 PM

XI OWNERS ONLY, PLEASE

I am curious about how many xi drivers only change to snow tires in the winter.

I don't see a need.

Please explain your votes.

bsjd00 · 06-10-2006, 08:31 PM

Your poll might be a little skewed because of XI owners like me who have the 18" wheels with performance tires. We have to swap tires - we have no choice.

Do you want us to refrain from voting?

StewtheBassman · 06-10-2006, 08:36 PM

Snow tires make you stop better. corner, and accelerate in snow and ice.

JSpira · 06-10-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsjd00

Your poll might be a little skewed because of XI owners like me who have the 18" wheels with performance tires. We have to swap tires - we have no choice.

Do you want us to refrain from voting?

I think per the instructions, we just have to explain our vote - which both of us just did.

18LLC · 06-10-2006, 08:44 PM

I have all season tire, and BMW told me that "all season" means that tire can also run on snow, so there is no need to change to snow tire. Of coz, I am in bay area, so i dont know if he is telling truth or not. But those tire did a good job when I went to lake tahoe at the pass winter.

RGRAY · 06-10-2006, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsjd00

Your poll might be a little skewed because of XI owners like me who have the 18" wheels with performance tires. We have to swap tires - we have no choice.

Do you want us to refrain from voting?

Thank you for pointing that out.

Yes, xi owners with the 18 inch wheels should not vote.

"Snow tires make you stop better. corner, and accelerate in snow and ice".

Yes, and chains would help more too.

I take it your not an xi owner?

No one is arguing that.

JSpira · 06-10-2006, 08:50 PM

I´m sure a decent %age of 330xi´s come with Styling 162 wheels so you will probably end up with such owners voting regardless of instructions.

Perhaps if the poll differentiated, i.e.
- I have 17" AS tires and change to winter tires
- I have 18" performance tires and...

RGRAY · 06-10-2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

I´m sure a decent %age of 330xi´s come with Styling 162 wheels so you will probably end up with such owners voting regardless of instructions.

Perhaps if the poll differentiated, i.e.
- I have 17" AS tires and change to winter tires
- I have 18" performance tires and...

I think my intent should have been clean.

If you have 18s and don't live in Cal. or Fla.

You have to switch to snow tires.

Jean330xi · 06-10-2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGRAY

I think my intent should have been clean.

If you have 18s and don't live in Cal. or Fla.

You have to switch to snow tires.

Does not bother me if your intent was dirty or clean

but you asked a simple question, I am curious about how many xi drivers only change to snow tires in the winter.

I voted and yes I have 18" tires. I cannot retract my vote and there are no instructions in the initial post.

So if you are saying your intent was clear (or clean) for only all season tire owners to vote, I can tell you it was not clear at all.

Greeney · 06-10-2006, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean330xi

Does not bother me if your intent was dirty or clean

but you asked a simple question, I am curious about how many xi drivers only change to snow tires in the winter.

I voted and yes I have 18" tires. I cannot retract my vote and there are no instructions in the initial post.

So if you are saying your intent was clear (or clean) for only all season tire owners to vote, I can tell you it was not clear at all.

Do you live in Westchester NY? if so where? I live there too.

StewtheBassman · 06-10-2006, 09:26 PM

You asked who changes, and to explain our votes.

I change in December, and back in March.

Snow tires help my 325xi E90, start, stop, and turn better in snow and ice. Could I be any clearer?

I use chains on my farm truck in winter to help it back up the hill when I dump the horse manure every couple of days. They are amazing.

StewtheBassman · 06-10-2006, 09:27 PM

Anyway, this snow tire/xi or i debate has been regurgitated in so many forms since I first found bimmerfest, why start it again?

RGRAY · 06-10-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

Anyway, this snow tire/xi or i debate has been regurgitated in so many forms since I first found bimmerfest, why start it again?

I did not see anything on just "xi owners with 17 inch tires."

Did You?

I just wanted to see who has a xi with 17 inch wheels who drive in bad weather and are going to buy snow tires.

Not people in Cal. and Fla.

All the ones I have seen are which one is best.

I think this poll has already been spoiled.

I will start the poll over.

Thanks for everyones input.

StewtheBassman · 06-10-2006, 10:04 PM

Probably a good idea, gotta be clear on these internet forums to get the right answers.

xcalibr · 06-10-2006, 10:14 PM

I live in CA, so my opinion is apparently useless to you, but I'm giving it anyway! The reason why I even bought an xi, is so I can slap snows on there for the snowboarding season and take that baby up to the slopes. Here in CA, you aren't required to use chains in the Sierras if you have AWD and snows on.

I got the sport package with upgraded rims with performance tires... so for the winter, I'm getting snows for my stock 17" rims and new 19's wrapped in performance tires for regular street use when I'm not headed for the slopes.

klynch06 · 06-10-2006, 10:45 PM

I voted for no need of snow tires. I have an XI and it had no issues this past winter. Keep in mind it was a very light winter here in N.E.

carjon · 06-12-2006, 08:32 AM

Live in CT up a steep hill and steep private drive. Probably a couple of days each winter that I wouldn't get home without snows and xi but that is too many. Every article I read says snow tires are better that awd and although I don't believe everything I read, I do think they make a difference. My wife has a e46 325xit and got the snows off a couple of days too early one year and it made a major difference in traction.
So I guess it depends upon where you drive. For me there is no such thing as too much winter traction.

gdnyc · 06-12-2006, 08:39 AM

I just got my xi in March and haven't had the experience of driving in the snow. I have the 17" all season tires and I don't plan on changing to snow tires in the winter. Looking forward to comparing my experiences with Audi's Quattro and BMW's XI. If my A4 was able to cut through the snow with performance tires, I am sure this car can too with all season tires. If not, then I know which dealership I am going to when the lease is up.

powderhound · 06-12-2006, 08:49 AM

Snow tires for me - safer and better performance all around. I will not get stuck on my way to a powder day! My dealer said "Sir, You'll never need snow tires again!" Totally inaccurate and frankly, a stupid thing to say.

Getagrip · 06-12-2006, 11:42 AM

I'll change out.
Reason? See my location.

maxpagani · 06-12-2006, 11:42 AM

when temperature gets close to 0° C., whatever wet or dry road, no tyre can compete with winter tyres

CMC · 06-12-2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcalibr

I live in CA, so my opinion is apparently useless to you, but I'm giving it anyway! The reason why I even bought an xi, is so I can slap snows on there for the snowboarding season and take that baby up to the slopes. Here in CA, you aren't required to use chains in the Sierras if you have AWD and snows on.

You are still required to carry chains, even with AWD & snows. I've been through chain control a number of times in my AWD Audi (with summer tires) and never had them give me any trouble about using chains (despite my summer itres), but they do insist that you carry chains.

FWIW, I've never felt the need for snows with my Audi.

View Poll Results: SNOW TIRES AND THE XI
I don't see a need for snow tires with my.	32	55.17%
I do use snow tires with my xi	26	44.83%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

06-10-2006, 07:37 PM	#1
RGRAY Captain 28 Rep 872 Posts Drives: 330xi SG/TERRA/STEP/SP/HS/CA Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 330xi [0.00]	For Xi Drives XI OWNERS ONLY, PLEASE I am curious about how many xi drivers only change to snow tires in the winter. I don't see a need. Please explain your votes. __________________ 330xi/Sparkling Graphite/Terra/Walnut Burl/Steptronic/Sports Package/Heated Seats/Comfort Access...(blacklines, tint and a black grill). http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90gar...20TINT%20A.jpg
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06-10-2006, 08:31 PM	#2
bsjd00 Lieutenant 38 Rep 407 Posts Drives: e90 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.S. iTrader: (0)	Your poll might be a little skewed because of XI owners like me who have the 18" wheels with performance tires. We have to swap tires - we have no choice. Do you want us to refrain from voting?
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06-10-2006, 08:36 PM	#3
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Snow tires make you stop better. corner, and accelerate in snow and ice. __________________
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06-10-2006, 08:44 PM	#5
18LLC Major General 148 Rep 5,104 Posts Drives: e89 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California iTrader: (0)	I have all season tire, and BMW told me that "all season" means that tire can also run on snow, so there is no need to change to snow tire. Of coz, I am in bay area, so i dont know if he is telling truth or not. But those tire did a good job when I went to lake tahoe at the pass winter.
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06-10-2006, 08:50 PM	#7
JSpira Freude am Fahren 334 Rep 5,254 Posts Drives: Fünfer, Dreier, + Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York, München, Wien iTrader: (1)	I´m sure a decent %age of 330xi´s come with Styling 162 wheels so you will probably end up with such owners voting regardless of instructions. Perhaps if the poll differentiated, i.e. - I have 17" AS tires and change to winter tires - I have 18" performance tires and... __________________ Freude am Fahren. Jonathan E90 2006 330xi E90 2006 325i E39 2003 530i Sport* E46 2000 328Ci* E36 1996 328iS* E36 1992 325i* E30 1991 318is E21 1982 320iS* E21 1979 320 (6-Zyl)* *retired Nominated: Most Contributing Member
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06-10-2006, 09:26 PM	#11
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	You asked who changes, and to explain our votes. I change in December, and back in March. Snow tires help my 325xi E90, start, stop, and turn better in snow and ice. Could I be any clearer? I use chains on my farm truck in winter to help it back up the hill when I dump the horse manure every couple of days. They are amazing. __________________
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06-10-2006, 09:27 PM	#12
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Anyway, this snow tire/xi or i debate has been regurgitated in so many forms since I first found bimmerfest, why start it again? __________________
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06-10-2006, 10:04 PM	#14
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Probably a good idea, gotta be clear on these internet forums to get the right answers. __________________
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06-10-2006, 10:14 PM	#15
xcalibr First Lieutenant 18 Rep 370 Posts Drives: E90 325xi Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fremont, CA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 E90 325xi [0.00]	I live in CA, so my opinion is apparently useless to you, but I'm giving it anyway! The reason why I even bought an xi, is so I can slap snows on there for the snowboarding season and take that baby up to the slopes. Here in CA, you aren't required to use chains in the Sierras if you have AWD and snows on. I got the sport package with upgraded rims with performance tires... so for the winter, I'm getting snows for my stock 17" rims and new 19's wrapped in performance tires for regular street use when I'm not headed for the slopes. __________________
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06-10-2006, 10:45 PM	#16
klynch06 Neophyte 2 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 09 128 Conv Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Boston (North) iTrader: (0)	I voted for no need of snow tires. I have an XI and it had no issues this past winter. Keep in mind it was a very light winter here in N.E.
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06-12-2006, 08:32 AM	#17
carjon First Lieutenant 7 Rep 349 Posts Drives: 328xi Sedan Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Live in CT up a steep hill and steep private drive. Probably a couple of days each winter that I wouldn't get home without snows and xi but that is too many. Every article I read says snow tires are better that awd and although I don't believe everything I read, I do think they make a difference. My wife has a e46 325xit and got the snows off a couple of days too early one year and it made a major difference in traction. So I guess it depends upon where you drive. For me there is no such thing as too much winter traction. __________________ 2011 328xi black on black. Nav, connect, apps, Sirius.
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06-12-2006, 08:39 AM	#18
gdnyc Lieutenant 24 Rep 472 Posts Drives: 2006 330xi Jet Black Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	I just got my xi in March and haven't had the experience of driving in the snow. I have the 17" all season tires and I don't plan on changing to snow tires in the winter. Looking forward to comparing my experiences with Audi's Quattro and BMW's XI. If my A4 was able to cut through the snow with performance tires, I am sure this car can too with all season tires. If not, then I know which dealership I am going to when the lease is up. __________________ 2006 330xi BMW, please get rid of the RFT's and give us a spare tire!
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06-12-2006, 08:49 AM	#19
powderhound Powderhound 2 Rep 32 Posts Drives: BMW 325xi Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	Snow tires for me - safer and better performance all around. I will not get stuck on my way to a powder day! My dealer said "Sir, You'll never need snow tires again!" Totally inaccurate and frankly, a stupid thing to say. __________________ Powderhound '06 325xi - 6spd man - Prem. Pkg - Sports Pkg - Cld Weather - iDrive - Xenon - SAT R. - graphite / poplar / black
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06-12-2006, 11:42 AM	#20
Getagrip Get a grip. Get Xdrive. 14 Rep 529 Posts Drives: 330xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anchorage, Alaska iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330xi [0.00] 2003 330xi [0.00]	I'll change out. Reason? See my location. __________________ 2006 330xi current
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06-12-2006, 11:42 AM	#21
maxpagani New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: M3 smgII Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: italy iTrader: (0)	when temperature gets close to 0° C., whatever wet or dry road, no tyre can compete with winter tyres
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