Pre expiring SULEV Warranty check?

bonez318ti · 06-27-2023, 08:09 AM

I recently welcomed a very low mileage 2008 128i convertible to my home~44k miles and everything appears in great condition, the car looks like a brand new car (even minimal rust on the undercarriage.. which is impressive for a North East car)

It appears that there is an outstanding recall for the PCV valve heater that I was planning on taking the car in for.

Could I have them see if anything else needed fixing that fall under SULEV warranty? When does the SULEV warranty expire exactly? It seems the prod date was 6/19/2008.. I'm not sure when the delivery date was, but Carfax shows a predelivery inspection that occurred on 7/22/2008 and registered on 7/24/08. The car did just past a NYS inspection by the previous owner and has the sticker in place.

I was going to put some miles on the car for a week or two to see if any issues crop up, but was wondering if it was wise to wait if I am so close to expiration of the warranty (in case something meets warranty).

Would dealers want to look around to see if there is anything they can fix under the warranty, or would they tend to shy away from warranty work? I am in NYS and car will be registered in NYS for what it matters (and was originally a NYS car).

jdt10768 · 06-27-2023, 10:11 AM

Dealers aren't going to elect to perform sulev warranty work
You'll have to specifically point out the items. Maybe take it in for the PCV recall, and have they perform an inspection. If any SULEV items are on their list, you bring it up then
But you need to be sure you're in a state that actually covers the SULEV stuff
If so, it's 15 yrs, 150,000 mi

2008 BMW SULEV (PZEV) Parts List - N51 Vehicles
2008 BMW Emissions Related Parts List
Model = 128i Model = 328i

LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV
WARRANTY
LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV
WARRANTY

Part Name Part Name
GASKET, VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR GASKET, VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR
OIL FILLER CAP OIL FILLER CAP
VALVE COVER GASKET SET VALVE COVER GASKET SET
VACUUM PIPE VACUUM PIPE
VENT HOSE VENT HOSE
ADJUSTMENT UNIT, INTAKE CAMSHAFT ADJUSTMENT UNIT, INTAKE CAMSHAFT
SOLENOID VALVE SOLENOID VALVE
ADJUSTMENT UNIT, EXHAUST CAMSHAFT ADJUSTMENT UNIT, EXHAUST CAMSHAFT
SOLENOID VALVE VALVETRONIC SENSOR
VALVETRONIC SENSOR VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR
VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR THERMOSTAT
THERMOSTAT SET INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET
SET INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET INTAKE MANIFOLD
INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR)
INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (FRONT)
INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (FRONT) ANGLE CONNECTOR
ANGLE CONNECTOR INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR)
INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) SAS VALVE GASKET
SAS VALVE GASKET SECONDARY AIR PUMP
SECONDARY AIR PUMP SUCTION HOSE, SAS
SUCTION HOSE, SAS SAS VALVE
SAS VALVE PRESSURE HOSE, SAS
PRESSURE HOSE, SAS HEATED REAR OXYGEN SENSOR
HEATED REAR OXYGEN SENSOR HEATED FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR
HEATED FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR IGNITION COIL
IGNITION COIL O-RING, CAMSHAFT SENSOR
O-RING, CAMSHAFT SENSOR ENGINE CONTROL MODULE
ENGINE CONTROL MODULE OIL PRESSURE SENSOR
OIL PRESSURE SENSOR CAP
CAP INJECTION VALVE
FUEL RAIL FUEL RAIL
INJECTION VALVE THROTTLE BODY GASKET
THROTTLE BODY GASKET THROTTLE BODY
THROTTLE BODY ENGINE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR
ENGINE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR RADIATOR COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR
RADIATOR COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR O-RING
DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR O-RING CAMSHAFT SENSOR
CAMSHAFT SENSOR CRANKSHAFT POSITION/RPM SENSOR
CRANKSHAFT POSITION/RPM SENSOR DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR
DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR
Page 19
2008 BMW SULEV (PZEV) Parts List - N51 Vehicles (Cont.)
2008 BMW Emissions Related Parts List
Model = 128i Model = 328i

LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV
WARRANTY
LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV
WARRANTY

Part Name Part Name
MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR KNOCK SENSOR
KNOCK SENSOR INJECTION VALVE O-RING
INJECTION VALVE O-RING RUBBER BOOT (INTAKE AIR DUCT)
RUBBER BOOT (INTAKE AIR DUCT) CONNECTOR (INTAKE AIR DUCT)
CONNECTOR (INTAKE AIR DUCT) PURGE VALVE
PURGE VALVE FUEL FILLER CAP
FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL TANK
SERVICE LID FOR FUEL TANK, RIGHT SERVICE LID FOR FUEL TANK, RIGHT
FUEL TANK REPAIR KIT FOR FLANGE COVER
REPAIR KIT FOR FLANGE COVER REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK @ FILLER FLAP
REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK @ FILLER FLAP REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK FILLER FLAP
REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK FILLER FLAP FUEL FILLER NECK
FUEL FILLER NECK FUEL FEED LINE
FUEL LINE (UNDERBODY) FUEL LINE (UNDERBODY)
FUEL FEED LINE SEAL, CANISTER-TO-LDP
SEAL, CANISTER-TO-LDP DUST FILTER, LDP
DUST FILTER, LDP SCAVENGE LINE
VENT LINE (FILLER NECK-TO-TANK) VENT LINE (FILLER NECK-TO-TANK)
VENT PIPE (FILLER NECK-TO-CANISTER) LEAK DIAGNOSTIC PUMP
LEAK DIAGNOSTIC PUMP EVAPORATIVE CANISTER
SCAVENGE LINE FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT
EVAPORATIVE CANISTER DELIVERY UNIT, RIGHT
FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT
DELIVERY UNIT, RIGHT RADIATOR W/DORS (AUTOMATIC TRANS)
FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT RADIATOR W/DORS (MANUAL TRANS)
RADIATOR W/DORS (AUTOMATIC TRANS) EXHAUST PIPE GASKET
RADIATOR W/DORS (MANUAL TRANS) EXHAUST PIPE WITH CATALYST
EXHAUST PIPE GASKET EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET
EXHAUST PIPE WITH CATALYST EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH CATALYST
EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET TORQUE CONVERTER
EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH CATALYST TRANS. CONTROL MODULE, MECHATRONIK
TORQUE CONVERTER GAS PEDAL MODULE (AUTOMATIC)
TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE, MECHATRONIK GAS PEDAL MODULE (MANUAL)
GAS PEDAL MODULE (AUTOMATIC)
GAS PEDAL MODULE (MANUAL

jdt10768 · 06-27-2023, 10:12 AM

4. Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicles (SULEV) classified as Partial Zero Emission Vehicles (PZEV)
(Engine Types: M56, N51, N26, B46) (California Emission Control Warranty)
All emissions-relevant components or systems on SULEV (PZEV) vehicles, in applicable states as noted
below, are covered under the California Emission Control Warranty against defects in materials or
workmanship for a period of 15 years or 150,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
Other States that have fully adopted the SULEV (PZEV) “State of California regulation” by Model Year
Participating States Model Year(s)
Arizona 2012 Only
California 2003 and Newer
Connecticut 2007 and Newer
Maine 2003 and Newer
Maryland 2011 and Newer
Massachusetts 2003 and Newer
New Jersey 2008 and Newer
New Mexico 2011 Only
***New York 2003 and Newer
Pennsylvania 2009 & 2010
Rhode Island 2008 and Newer
Vermont 2003 and Newe

Almuliman · 06-27-2023, 04:23 PM

And Washington State (and DC, according to https://bimmers.com/blog/bmw-n51-eng...ow-about-sulev).

Blau · 06-28-2023, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonez318ti

I recently welcomed a very low mileage 2008 128i convertible to my home~44k miles and everything appears in great condition, the car looks like a brand new car (even minimal rust on the undercarriage.. which is impressive for a North East car)

It appears that there is an outstanding recall for the PCV valve heater that I was planning on taking the car in for.

Could I have them see if anything else needed fixing that fall under SULEV warranty? When does the SULEV warranty expire exactly? It seems the prod date was 6/19/2008.. I'm not sure when the delivery date was, but Carfax shows a predelivery inspection that occurred on 7/22/2008 and registered on 7/24/08. The car did just past a NYS inspection by the previous owner and has the sticker in place.

I was going to put some miles on the car for a week or two to see if any issues crop up, but was wondering if it was wise to wait if I am so close to expiration of the warranty (in case something meets warranty).

Would dealers want to look around to see if there is anything they can fix under the warranty, or would they tend to shy away from warranty work? I am in NYS and car will be registered in NYS for what it matters (and was originally a NYS car).

They woukd rather burn themselves at the stake than do a pre-SULEV expiration check. They hate it. Techs only make half rate on warranty jobs. Same with the SA's. Also SULEV work means more work (phones, emails, fax's -time) for the SA, so they do everything they can to get out of it.

FYI - the dealership I go to charges each item as an hour of labor. Each item can be very granular and this is where you might have to call BMWNA if the SA is trying to fleece you (kind of an unfair statement due to the half rate, but it is what it is). That hour of diagnosis is only credited back on the items that needed work. All of the other diagnosis charges are still yours to pay.

The details on the warranty are vague by design. There are some threads in this forum, but you'll have to search for yourself.

All of that being said... It's worth it to jump through hoops. Getting work done at the dealership gives you an additional 2 years of warranty on those parts.

Find a trusty mechanic to give your car a proper post-purchase inspection. If they find something on that list, then you go to the dealership.

Source: I am a SULEV 128i owner.

bonez318ti · 08-01-2023, 01:51 PM

Foe what it's worth, I got a VCG leak covered just at the SULEV expiration. I made the appt in mid July, and appointment was 8/1, 1 day past day of expiration (my SA counted number of months from delivery) but covered it without a problem since I made the appt prior to expiration. Great service overall.

gary_william · 08-02-2023, 08:33 PM

If work is performed at an indy that is covered under the warranty if done at BMW, is there a way to get reimbursed for what was paid to the indy?

bonez318ti · 08-02-2023, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_william

If work is performed at an indy that is covered under the warranty if done at BMW, is there a way to get reimbursed for what was paid to the indy?

I highly doubt it

06-27-2023, 08:09 AM	#1
bonez318ti New Member 3 Rep 24 Posts Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Pre expiring SULEV Warranty check? I recently welcomed a very low mileage 2008 128i convertible to my home~44k miles and everything appears in great condition, the car looks like a brand new car (even minimal rust on the undercarriage.. which is impressive for a North East car) It appears that there is an outstanding recall for the PCV valve heater that I was planning on taking the car in for. Could I have them see if anything else needed fixing that fall under SULEV warranty? When does the SULEV warranty expire exactly? It seems the prod date was 6/19/2008.. I'm not sure when the delivery date was, but Carfax shows a predelivery inspection that occurred on 7/22/2008 and registered on 7/24/08. The car did just past a NYS inspection by the previous owner and has the sticker in place. I was going to put some miles on the car for a week or two to see if any issues crop up, but was wondering if it was wise to wait if I am so close to expiration of the warranty (in case something meets warranty). Would dealers want to look around to see if there is anything they can fix under the warranty, or would they tend to shy away from warranty work? I am in NYS and car will be registered in NYS for what it matters (and was originally a NYS car).
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06-27-2023, 10:11 AM	#2
jdt10768 Lieutenant 333 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 2013 128i MSport 6MT Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	Dealers aren't going to elect to perform sulev warranty work You'll have to specifically point out the items. Maybe take it in for the PCV recall, and have they perform an inspection. If any SULEV items are on their list, you bring it up then But you need to be sure you're in a state that actually covers the SULEV stuff If so, it's 15 yrs, 150,000 mi 2008 BMW SULEV (PZEV) Parts List - N51 Vehicles 2008 BMW Emissions Related Parts List Model = 128i Model = 328i LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV WARRANTY LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV WARRANTY Part Name Part Name GASKET, VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR GASKET, VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR OIL FILLER CAP OIL FILLER CAP VALVE COVER GASKET SET VALVE COVER GASKET SET VACUUM PIPE VACUUM PIPE VENT HOSE VENT HOSE ADJUSTMENT UNIT, INTAKE CAMSHAFT ADJUSTMENT UNIT, INTAKE CAMSHAFT SOLENOID VALVE SOLENOID VALVE ADJUSTMENT UNIT, EXHAUST CAMSHAFT ADJUSTMENT UNIT, EXHAUST CAMSHAFT SOLENOID VALVE VALVETRONIC SENSOR VALVETRONIC SENSOR VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR VALVETRONIC ACTUATOR THERMOSTAT THERMOSTAT SET INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET SET INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (FRONT) INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (FRONT) ANGLE CONNECTOR ANGLE CONNECTOR INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) INTAKE MANIFOLD ADJUSTER (REAR) SAS VALVE GASKET SAS VALVE GASKET SECONDARY AIR PUMP SECONDARY AIR PUMP SUCTION HOSE, SAS SUCTION HOSE, SAS SAS VALVE SAS VALVE PRESSURE HOSE, SAS PRESSURE HOSE, SAS HEATED REAR OXYGEN SENSOR HEATED REAR OXYGEN SENSOR HEATED FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR HEATED FRONT OXYGEN SENSOR IGNITION COIL IGNITION COIL O-RING, CAMSHAFT SENSOR O-RING, CAMSHAFT SENSOR ENGINE CONTROL MODULE ENGINE CONTROL MODULE OIL PRESSURE SENSOR OIL PRESSURE SENSOR CAP CAP INJECTION VALVE FUEL RAIL FUEL RAIL INJECTION VALVE THROTTLE BODY GASKET THROTTLE BODY GASKET THROTTLE BODY THROTTLE BODY ENGINE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR ENGINE COOLANT TEMP SENSOR RADIATOR COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR RADIATOR COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR O-RING DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR O-RING CAMSHAFT SENSOR CAMSHAFT SENSOR CRANKSHAFT POSITION/RPM SENSOR CRANKSHAFT POSITION/RPM SENSOR DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE SENSOR MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR Page 19 2008 BMW SULEV (PZEV) Parts List - N51 Vehicles (Cont.) 2008 BMW Emissions Related Parts List Model = 128i Model = 328i LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV WARRANTY LIST OF EMISSIONS PARTS SUBJECT TO PZEV WARRANTY Part Name Part Name MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR KNOCK SENSOR KNOCK SENSOR INJECTION VALVE O-RING INJECTION VALVE O-RING RUBBER BOOT (INTAKE AIR DUCT) RUBBER BOOT (INTAKE AIR DUCT) CONNECTOR (INTAKE AIR DUCT) CONNECTOR (INTAKE AIR DUCT) PURGE VALVE PURGE VALVE FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL FILLER CAP FUEL TANK SERVICE LID FOR FUEL TANK, RIGHT SERVICE LID FOR FUEL TANK, RIGHT FUEL TANK REPAIR KIT FOR FLANGE COVER REPAIR KIT FOR FLANGE COVER REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK @ FILLER FLAP REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK @ FILLER FLAP REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK FILLER FLAP REPAIR KIT FOR FUEL TANK FILLER FLAP FUEL FILLER NECK FUEL FILLER NECK FUEL FEED LINE FUEL LINE (UNDERBODY) FUEL LINE (UNDERBODY) FUEL FEED LINE SEAL, CANISTER-TO-LDP SEAL, CANISTER-TO-LDP DUST FILTER, LDP DUST FILTER, LDP SCAVENGE LINE VENT LINE (FILLER NECK-TO-TANK) VENT LINE (FILLER NECK-TO-TANK) VENT PIPE (FILLER NECK-TO-CANISTER) LEAK DIAGNOSTIC PUMP LEAK DIAGNOSTIC PUMP EVAPORATIVE CANISTER SCAVENGE LINE FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT EVAPORATIVE CANISTER DELIVERY UNIT, RIGHT FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT DELIVERY UNIT, RIGHT RADIATOR W/DORS (AUTOMATIC TRANS) FUEL PUMP CONTROL UNIT RADIATOR W/DORS (MANUAL TRANS) RADIATOR W/DORS (AUTOMATIC TRANS) EXHAUST PIPE GASKET RADIATOR W/DORS (MANUAL TRANS) EXHAUST PIPE WITH CATALYST EXHAUST PIPE GASKET EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET EXHAUST PIPE WITH CATALYST EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH CATALYST EXHAUST MANIFOLD GASKET TORQUE CONVERTER EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH CATALYST TRANS. CONTROL MODULE, MECHATRONIK TORQUE CONVERTER GAS PEDAL MODULE (AUTOMATIC) TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE, MECHATRONIK GAS PEDAL MODULE (MANUAL) GAS PEDAL MODULE (AUTOMATIC) GAS PEDAL MODULE (MANUAL
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jdt10768 Lieutenant 333 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 2013 128i MSport 6MT Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	4. Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicles (SULEV) classified as Partial Zero Emission Vehicles (PZEV) (Engine Types: M56, N51, N26, B46) (California Emission Control Warranty) All emissions-relevant components or systems on SULEV (PZEV) vehicles, in applicable states as noted below, are covered under the California Emission Control Warranty against defects in materials or workmanship for a period of 15 years or 150,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Other States that have fully adopted the SULEV (PZEV) “State of California regulation” by Model Year Participating States Model Year(s) Arizona 2012 Only California 2003 and Newer Connecticut 2007 and Newer Maine 2003 and Newer Maryland 2011 and Newer Massachusetts 2003 and Newer New Jersey 2008 and Newer New Mexico 2011 Only ***New York 2003 and Newer Pennsylvania 2009 & 2010 Rhode Island 2008 and Newer Vermont 2003 and Newe
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Almuliman Lieutenant 484 Rep 566 Posts Drives: 2013 LMB 6MT 128i Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Outside Seattle iTrader: (0)	And Washington State (and DC, according to https://bimmers.com/blog/bmw-n51-eng...ow-about-sulev).
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bonez318ti New Member 3 Rep 24 Posts Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Jun 2023 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Foe what it's worth, I got a VCG leak covered just at the SULEV expiration. I made the appt in mid July, and appointment was 8/1, 1 day past day of expiration (my SA counted number of months from delivery) but covered it without a problem since I made the appt prior to expiration. Great service overall.
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gary_william Private First Class 315 Rep 168 Posts Drives: 2013 128i Join Date: May 2017 Location: Vancouver, WA iTrader: (0)	If work is performed at an indy that is covered under the warranty if done at BMW, is there a way to get reimbursed for what was paid to the indy?
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