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06-16-2007, 01:08 AM | #67 | |
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Close, but no cigar - it may have been designed by some of the same people but it's still not a BMW. It's clear BMW doesn't want it thought of as one either, or they would publicly call it the "BMW MINI" and would not have set up separate dealerships for it.
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06-16-2007, 01:53 PM | #68 | |
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As for the direction they are taking with this car styling wise, well, there are PLENTY of statements from some insiders we have here and on GCZ making that connection. I don't particularly feel like spending my saturday searching for them, but if you still don't believe me, it shouldn't be hard for you to find them. But really, is it that hard for you to see how this car might compare, to say, an E30 3 series? |
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About your comments regarding the Z8 (not Z28), well I would have to say that your lack of experience with the car is betrayed by your comments. The interior of that car is thoroughly retro and the exterior shares many of the styling cues of the 507, if you look closely. The 507, btw, is far from a "tiny footnote in BMW history". It is considered one of the brands best designs and many consider it one of the most beautiful cars in the world |
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Hey everyone, it's my first post here, but I've been reading the forum regularly.
For those who are criticizing the backseat of the 1er, I just want to say that it's not worse than other similar-sized hatchback we have in Europe, the only difference is the rwd transmission that reduce the legroom for the 5th seat. |
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I was under the distinct impression that during the development of the coupe, there was a specific and dedicated effort to give it more backseat legroom due entirely to years of criticism that the 1er hatch has endured about inadequate rear seat legroom.
I cannot link to a specific article right now (and there's very little hard facts available about the coupe right now anyway so its a moot point) perhaps it was on Germancarfans. I want to see a show of hands. Who in here actually thinks that BMW is going to let years of criticism fall on deaf ears, and introduce a coupe without making any effort at all to improve legroom? Do ya think the folks at BMW are stupid or something? |
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I'm confused by someone who would participate in a niche product forum, but who would appear to have neither a shred of optimism nor enthusiasm for the product. |
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06-17-2007, 06:30 AM | #78 | |
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Longhorn, this guy will never get it. No amount of logic is going to persuade him. |
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06-17-2007, 11:18 AM | #79 | |
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But notice that he says the 3 door was made for people that don't really care about the space in the rear. (well of course) Aren't the target market for the coupe (allegedly) even less concerned about practicality? That is, will BMW really throw a major effort to make more legroom in the back, which would most likely require messing with "hard points" of the design? I doubt it. :iono: |
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06-25-2007, 01:17 AM | #81 | |
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I have/had high hopes for this car, which is why I am on this forum. It is/was on the top of my next-car list. BMW has an opportunity to slot a really sleek small coupe into an uncontested RWD segment here, and I just hope they don't blow it with the final design - I don't doubt the mechanicals will be superb. I am withholding a final judgement until I see it in person since some cars don't photograph well, but so far the 1 coupe looks boxy and misproportioned to me, and too sedanish - it's a shape more attuned to the WRX/Evo crowd. I think BMW should be concerned about this type of reaction to the spy shots (which I have seen from a number of others on general non-Bimmer car blogs and forums) as it may negatively impact their sales. Maybe they can make some last minute panel adjustments but I very much doubt it at this point. |
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