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      05-17-2009, 01:47 PM   #1
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Why did you buy 135i ?

Considering all those problems with hpfp, high speed unstability, soft suspension and bushings ?
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      05-17-2009, 01:48 PM   #2
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Because the 335i was out of my budget
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What do you mean all the problems with hpfp, high speed unstability, soft suspension and bushings.
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      05-17-2009, 02:18 PM   #4
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Considering all those problems with hpfp, high speed unstability, soft suspension and bushings ?
1.) Not everyone has HPFP problems. BMW covers the pump for 10yr 100k miles as well.

2.) Only a few people have reported high speed unstability. In comparison to what, is my question.

3.) The car in stock form balances a sport/soft suspension quite well. It is not a sports car.
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      05-17-2009, 02:21 PM   #5
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What do you mean all the problems with hpfp, high speed unstability, soft suspension and bushings.
Problem with hpfp is well documented.
The car feels unstable at high speed, especially on rough pavement. I have test-driven 135i with my friend. Maybe lack of rear downforce.
135i suspension feels too soft after impreza sti. Personally i think, it's bad point for "sporty" car... but for some drivers maybe ride comfort > handling ... not for me.

So u knew it all, and still bought 135i ?

Sorry for my english.
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      05-17-2009, 02:22 PM   #6
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Because the 335i was out of my budget
That's funny. WHen I bought my 135i I actually could've bought a 335i with similar options for the same or less with incentives.
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      05-17-2009, 02:25 PM   #7
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1.) Not everyone has HPFP problems. BMW covers the pump for 10yr 100k miles as well.

2.) Only a few people have reported high speed unstability. In comparison to what, is my question.

3.) The car in stock form balances a sport/soft suspension quite well. It is not a sports car.
I normally don't correct spelling because I'm not the best but everyone on this thread is screwing it up. It isn't "unstability"...

It's "in⋅sta⋅bil⋅i⋅ty  /ˌɪnstəˈbɪlɪti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-stuh-bil-i-tee] Show IPA
–noun 1.the quality or state of being unstable; lack of stability or firmness.2.the tendency to behave in an unpredictable, changeable, or erratic manner: emotional instability.
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      05-17-2009, 02:27 PM   #8
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I have a 335i E90 and wanted a smaller, sportier and more fun version of it. Mission accomplished.
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      05-17-2009, 02:30 PM   #9
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Considering all those problems with hpfp, high speed unstability, soft suspension and bushings ?
1) lighter than 335i
2) same turbo engine
3) rides great for the street

What do you consider high speed? 80+mph is reckless driving in Virginia so most of my driving is below that. If you need a slightly stiffer suspension buy the bmw performance catalog setup. At least BMW offers an upgrade for the few that want it.

My main complaint with this car is the 215mm wide tires up front. THey should've used 225's.
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I don't know if it's the width of the wheelbase, weight or both, but my 3 series does feel a lot more stable over 60-70mph than the 1er. That's not to say it is, it just feels that way.
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      05-17-2009, 02:35 PM   #11
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I normally don't correct spelling because I'm not the best but everyone on this thread is screwing it up. It isn't "unstability"...

It's "in⋅sta⋅bil⋅i⋅ty  /ˌɪnstəˈbɪlɪti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-stuh-bil-i-tee] Show IPA
–noun 1.the quality or state of being unstable; lack of stability or firmness.2.the tendency to behave in an unpredictable, changeable, or erratic manner: emotional instability.
Thanks for the correction. I should pay more attention to my spelling and less on the Redwings game. I'm full aware of the u/i change from adjective to noun.
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      05-17-2009, 02:46 PM   #12
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I own impreza sti 07. And it's unreliable car ... bad stock tune, bad stock pistons ... (crappy euro 2.5l engine).
Now after 3 years with subaru (all in all it is very fun car, except that !@#% engine) i'm looking to replace it.
STi 08-09 no way, no way again that crap engine ! Mitsu evo x - too refined and problems with mitsu tuners in my area. 370z -2seater. So basically my choise is bmw 135i. But after looking at forums, seems that problem with hpfp is the same as subaru and it's 2.5l engine (well, 2.0l JDM engine is awesome). And i don't want to think in my trips will my hpfp fail or not. So i don't want to replace one unreliable car with another . Another point - my suby is heavily modded (upgraded turbo, suspension etc). So I need a car that handles and accelerates at least as stock STi. 135i do only part of this job - accelerating. As for handling ... after suby ... 135i handles like sofa ... that's bad (for ME). I think i won't solve handling problems with only coilovers. Soft stock bushings ...
As far as i read forums ... i think more ... can 135i replace my suby or not ? ... damn ...

again sorry for my english ...
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      05-17-2009, 02:52 PM   #13
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That's funny. WHen I bought my 135i I actually could've bought a 335i with similar options for the same or less with incentives.
Dont tell me that!
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      05-17-2009, 02:55 PM   #14
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What do you consider high speed?
200+ km/h.

I was dissapointed in bmw 135i at that speed. Again, my car is modded sti ... so maybe i've just used to how it feels planted and stable.

Sure i can mod bmw. But i think it needs more than dampers/springs.
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      05-17-2009, 03:02 PM   #15
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200+ km/h.

I was dissapointed in bmw 135i at that speed. Again, my car is modded sti ... so maybe i've just used to how it feels planted and stable.

Sure i can mod bmw. But i think it needs more than dampers/springs.
About 124mph.. I will agree with that. If I could drive over 100mph I'd definitely get the stiffer suspension. It feels like the first 1" of travel of the stock springs is soft and causes the unstable feeling. The soft spot in the springs is great for around town but not for high speeds.
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      05-17-2009, 03:06 PM   #16
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I own impreza sti 07. And it's unreliable car ... bad stock tune, bad stock pistons ... (crappy euro 2.5l engine).
Now after 3 years with subaru (all in all it is very fun car, except that !@#% engine) i'm looking to replace it.
STi 08-09 no way, no way again that crap engine ! Mitsu evo x - too refined and problems with mitsu tuners in my area. 370z -2seater. So basically my choise is bmw 135i. But after looking at forums, seems that problem with hpfp is the same as subaru and it's 2.5l engine (well, 2.0l JDM engine is awesome). And i don't want to think in my trips will my hpfp fail or not. So i don't want to replace one unreliable car with another . Another point - my suby is heavily modded (upgraded turbo, suspension etc). So I need a car that handles and accelerates at least as stock STi. 135i do only part of this job - accelerating. As for handling ... after suby ... 135i handles like sofa ... that's bad (for ME). I think i won't solve handling problems with only coilovers. Soft stock bushings ...
As far as i read forums ... i think more ... can 135i replace my suby or not ? ... damn ...

again sorry for my english ...
Dinan and turner sell stiffer suspension bushings for this car. I also believe people are swapping in M3 arms (for stiff bushings and more negative camber) and getting it realigned. I think you would be surprised at how a slightly different suspension would change the handling. The fuel pump issue is real but the car is fun! If it fails.. hit the button to get assistance and bmw will take care of you.
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      05-17-2009, 03:11 PM   #17
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This thread is retarded. A stock STI handles like shit too except its all wheel drive and not on RFTs. I've owned both plus a 350z, Rx8 and s2000 and none of them are a total package. The 135 comes the closest to a complete package. Its comfortable, with a refined non plastic feeling interior, fast, has back seats and handles well while maintaining a soft enough suspension to take a date out in.

Beside if the HPFP breaks BMW gives me a loaner car and maybe a cheese danish and coffee when I bring it in. Lets see one of the ecnobox race car companys do that and I'll think about buying one of them again.
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I'm not going to say I think you’re crazy...oh well yes I am I think you’re crazy! LOL

Unstable at high speeds?? I think maybe your just not used to the handling characteristics of this car and how the RFT's feel. I have not seen one professional review of this car that talks about that as an issue, even the very few reviews that are negative about the 135i. And trust me Clarkson would be pushing the 135 when he drove and reviewed it (never seen him drive slow LOL)

The suspension has been tuned to give a luxury but still sports ride, not everyone that buys a BMW tracks it. And if you really need it tighter spend $1100 and get the BMW Performance suspension kit.

HPFP, ya it sucks that there is a crappy part in the car but at least BMW has documented and accepted responsibility for it. And quite frankly I hope anything rolling off the line now would be fixed!

PS a RWD FE car is going to be different from a AWD car you just have to know how to drive it...stock to stock I'm SURE the 135i handles better than an 07 STi (had a 2002 WRX myself and drove the new STi)
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It's small, luxurious, and fast. It's the complete package I was looking for. And, at the time, the 370z and Camaro SS weren't available.
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Because the 335i I traded in on the 135i looked and drove like a Honda Accord coupe. The 135i looks like a BMW and is a joy to drive.
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I ordered a 135i because its everything I want in a car. Its quick, has a bit of luxury and class, and it has a lot of potential.

I looked at the 370z, its a cool car but I wasn't feeling it. The interior is cheezy (IMO) and it only has two seats. I'll rarely use the back seats in the 135, but when I need them, they are there. Plus the exterior styling on the Z is a little over the top for me. I like the more sophisticated look of the 1er.
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