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      12-28-2016, 06:22 PM   #1
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halogen to oem xenons?

anyone know what is needed to swap an pre-lci e82 (2008 128i) to oem projector xenons? i hear it's not just simple plug and play

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obviously you need the xenon headlights
you have to bridge the ground and bridge the shutter for high beams
then you have to code your frm to eliminate the flicker

When I bought my 128i it had some juck replacement and i had a a set of bi-xenons that was left over from my donor car. its time consuming getting the bumper off and doing the install. the wiring is a 15 minute job and the coding is 5 minutes if you have a good coding monkey

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obviously you need the xenon headlights
you have to bridge the ground and bridge the shutter for high beams
then you have to code your frm to eliminate the flicker

When I bought my 128i it had some juck replacement and i had a a set of bi-xenons that was left over from my donor car. its time consuming getting the bumper off and doing the install. the wiring is a 15 minute job and the coding is 5 minutes if you have a good coding monkey

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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526378

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thank you good sir, i can easily do the bumper and headlight removal but the wiring and coding is new to me, i'll have to do some reading tonight. thanks again
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alright did a TON of reading and still have a few questions

i noticed a lot of people recommend the euro spec lights because they are not bi-xenons, will the same diy work for the us spec bi-xenons?

i have also seen a lot of people saying that they are getting error messages without a new footwell module and some that have simply just done the wiring splicing mod (connecting the 5 and 6 pins and then adding the ground pin to 2) and they have been okay, can anyone confirm which is true?

as of right now i am HOPING that aside from the hardware installation i will just have to connect 5 and 6 and then add pin 2 for ground and call it a day on the us spec lights, can anyone confirm if this will work?

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alright did a TON of reading and still have a few questions

i noticed a lot of people recommend the euro spec lights because they are not bi-xenons, will the same diy work for the us spec bi-xenons?

i have also seen a lot of people saying that they are getting error messages without a new footwell module and some that have simply just done the wiring splicing mod (connecting the 5 and 6 pins and then adding the ground pin to 2) and they have been okay, can anyone confirm which is true?

as of right now i am HOPING that aside from the hardware installation i will just have to connect 5 and 6 and then add pin 2 for ground and call it a day on the us spec lights, can anyone confirm if this will work?

thanks
All xenons are bi-xenons.

You need a new or used footwell module labelled "FRM3 LED XE", this one is specific for xenons. I would recommend you retrofit standard bi-xenons not the adaptive ones because that requires even more wiring. If you choose to install adaptive bi-xenons you will need a different footwell module labelled "FRM3 LED XE AHL"

In terms of wiring i recommend you buy the Xenon retrofit harness, its only like $60 and leads to a much cleaner install. I did this my self ages ago on my first 1 series and my day time running lights didnt work after only bridging those pins and adding the extra ground. This is because the wiring physically changes when you add the new footwell module.

Also not you need to have LED tail lights (lci or non lci it doesnt matter) because again the wiring is different.
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You need a new or used footwell module labelled "FRM3 LED XE", this one is specific for xenons. I would recommend you retrofit standard bi-xenons not the adaptive ones because that requires even more wiring. If you choose to install adaptive bi-xenons you will need a different footwell module labelled "FRM3 LED XE AHL"
FRM3 MAX will work on both non-AHL and AHL lights, too. The FRM3s have additional code-able comfort features, like welcome lights, I believe.

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In terms of wiring i recommend you buy the Xenon retrofit harness, its only like $60 and leads to a much cleaner install. I did this my self ages ago on my first 1 series and my day time running lights didnt work after only bridging those pins and adding the extra ground. This is because the wiring physically changes when you add the new footwell module.
Not possible to buy the retrofit kit anymore. Out of production since 2015.

It is possible to do the retrofit without it, though. You can re-use some of the halogen wires, and add some new ones. http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=90909

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Also not you need to have LED tail lights (lci or non lci it doesnt matter) because again the wiring is different.
Halogen pre-facelift coupes and verts use LED taillights; LCI LEDs are then plug&play. LCI E82/88 is a different story.
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FRM3 MAX will work on both non-AHL and AHL lights, too.
correct
my 128i had standard halogens
its coding to the correct setting to get rid of the flicker
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so.. no footwell module needed, just coding? is FRM3 MAX what comes on the cars with halogens normally?
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so.. no footwell module needed, just coding? is FRM3 MAX what comes on the cars with halogens normally?
No, you need a xenon-compatible FRM2/3 module. Your car now has, most likely, a FRM Basis, which is physically different to XE, ahl, or max.
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No, you need a xenon-compatible FRM2/3 module. Your car now has, most likely, a FRM Basis, which is physically different to XE, ahl, or max.

ah okay thank you for explaining

so to sum it up you need..
-headlights
-rewire/add ground
-xenon compatible FRM2/3 module
-coding

and that should do it?
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No, you need a xenon-compatible FRM2/3 module. Your car now has, most likely, a FRM Basis, which is physically different to XE, ahl, or max.

ah okay thank you for explaining

so to sum it up you need..
-headlights
-rewire/add ground
-xenon compatible FRM2/3 module
-coding

and that should do it?
+ headlight levelers (very important), and interior light switch for xenons

There's a BMW guide for this retrofit, search for e82 xenon retrofit pdf and it should come up.
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So can anyone point me to what the wiring modifications necessary for converting pre-LCI halogens to pre-LCI xenons are? The car is a 2009 E82 128i.

I'm having trouble finding a solid answer. I've heard of pin 2 and 4 bridging and pin 5 and 6, but is that on the wiring harness side (male) or the headlamp socket side (female)?

Thanks.
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So can anyone point me to what the wiring modifications necessary for converting pre-LCI halogens to pre-LCI xenons are? The car is a 2009 E82 128i.

I'm having trouble finding a solid answer. I've heard of pin 2 and 4 bridging and pin 5 and 6, but is that on the wiring harness side (male) or the headlamp socket side (female)?

Thanks.
Have you peeked this thread?

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1362577
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