iroll's dyno thread

[631twentyeighteye]

I'd love to go evolve but budget doesn't allow for that currently. I literally was buying evolve and their website wasn't accepting my credit card for three days. I gave up and went AA cause I was impatient. shame on me.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

I'd love to go evolve but budget doesn't allow for that currently. I literally was buying evolve and their website wasn't accepting my credit card for three days. I gave up and went AA cause I was impatient. shame on me.

Yeah, their acceptance of payment leaves something to be desired.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Yeah, their acceptance of payment leaves something to be desired.

Pretty sure it's because it's out of country. That's why my CC company always tells me they've flagged it.

[631twentyeighteye]

That makes sense, i guess its a good thing for most circumstances, just annoying in this one. I ordered my BMS DP fix, i've read a in a few different e9x threads where it works fine on their n52's, so i'm hoping it does for me. if not, it's not a very intensive install and i'll just sell it locally or return it and find another option. Stig probably will talk down to my.. collectors option, but alas it's 1/3rd the price of Supersprint, so if i have 1/3 the product and gains it is to be expected. I've seen dyno charts of it them providing at least 10whp and 15ft/lbs throughout the range.


As always, after install and once everything is all said and done, i will again do a dyno. I'm glad i could actually come through on this one, sorry that they aren't supersprint!

[mapleridge]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

That just turns off the light, you will fail plug in emissions.

Originally Posted by MBP0202

This member passed emissions testing in his state with the AA offroad tune, so it is more correct to say that based on your testing requirements you may still fail. Alternately, you may pass as well. It depends on what systems must be ready, the CEL, and how many not ready's you are allowed to have.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Stig probably will talk down to my.. collectors option, but alas it's 1/3rd the price of Supersprint, so if i have 1/3 the product and gains it is to be expected.

Shrug. The way I would look at it is that for the price of mods like the injen intake and various exhaust bits and such, you could have had SS headers.

Originally Posted by mapleridge

This member passed emissions testing in his state with the AA offroad tune, so it is more correct to say that based on your testing requirements you may still fail. Alternately, you may pass as well. It depends on what systems must be ready, the CEL, and how many not ready's you are allowed to have.

I assumed we were talking about states that actually check emissions systems.

You can have a car in Florida with straight pipes because you only need to pass emissions once, but that is hardly relevant to the discussion.

[mapleridge]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I assumed we were talking about states that actually check emissions systems.

You can have a car in Florida with straight pipes because you only need to pass emissions once, but that is hardly relevant to the discussion.

The frequency and intervals of testing is secondary to the fact that testing is required. One has to check the state/provincial regs to see if it will work or not.

***EDIT

MBP0202 had his testing done in CT where tests are to be performed every 2 years. The requirements state that if more than a "required" number of systems are not ready then it is a fail, plus CEL can't be on. This eludes to the fact that at least one system can be not ready. So, in the end it will depend on your state and the rules, unless there are federal standards. Not sure, in Canada it actually depends on the city and in Vancouver, with the results posted above, I would pass.

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Shrug. The way I would look at it is that for the price of mods like the injen intake and various exhaust bits and such, you could have had SS headers.



I assumed we were talking about states that actually check emissions systems.

You can have a car in Florida with straight pipes because you only need to pass emissions once, but that is hardly relevant to the discussion.

I know what you're saying, but my stock box had a big crack in it, no idea why, so it had to be replaced, and overall i'm happy with everything i did despite it being mostly cosmetic.

Regarding emissions, i'm in NYS, so they plug the obd2 into the state inspection machine and it connects directly with Albany, so i don't want to risk failing since then it will be marked and noted by the system, meaning they can look into it further(IE, tell me to take my catless headers off). The o2 sim would be a much better fix than the AA offroad tune and they're the same price for me.

[631twentyeighteye]

Ready up on local laws, they allow for 1 not ready... so i think the AA offroad tune would fail. I also found out i cannot run the DP fix permanently as it screws with stuff mapleridge explained to me. So looks like i'll be getting the AA offroad tune, to turn the SES/CEL off, and then have another tune on stand by that i can swap to with the DP fix to pass inspection. what a pain in the ass modding is in these horrible liberal states.


edit: actually, the AA tune may pass NYS inspection.. just realized it only has the catalyst as "not ready". I guess ill find out next inspection. should i fail, i'll simply do the above.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by mapleridge

The frequency and intervals of testing is secondary to the fact that testing is required. One has to check the state/provincial regs to see if it will work or not.

***EDIT

MBP0202 had his testing done in CT where tests are to be performed every 2 years. The requirements state that if more than a "required" number of systems are not ready then it is a fail, plus CEL can't be on. This eludes to the fact that at least one system can be not ready. So, in the end it will depend on your state and the rules, unless there are federal standards. Not sure, in Canada it actually depends on the city and in Vancouver, with the results posted above, I would pass.

CT allows for one sensor to show as not ready. There's 2 post cat 02 sensors. For the car to not through a CEL, AA is setting both as "not ready", so the car won't pass.

[631twentyeighteye]

I see, it makes perfect sense. Well, i'll deal with that ordeal when it comes up next year. My solution will more than likely be evolve.. Mostly for my SES, but also because im VERY curious as to how well evolves tuning is compared to AA's. Naturally dyno's would follow.

in the mean time, i'll be running AA's offroad tune. Dyno in a few weeks to follow with headers+offroad tune. The headers shipped out two days ago, i'll probably get them Wednesday next week or so.

[mechavore884]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

I see, it makes perfect sense. Well, i'll deal with that ordeal when it comes up next year. My solution will more than likely be evolve.. Mostly for my SES, but also because im VERY curious as to how well evolves tuning is compared to AA's. Naturally dyno's would follow.

in the mean time, i'll be running AA's offroad tune. Dyno in a few weeks to follow with headers+offroad tune. The headers shipped out two days ago, i'll probably get them Wednesday next week or so.

looking forward to the results

[mapleridge]

Originally Posted by Obioban

CT allows for one sensor to show as not ready. There's 2 post cat 02 sensors. For the car to not through a CEL, AA is setting both as "not ready", so the car won't pass.

I didn't see that in the regs. The attached picture from the member in PA passed with the AA software.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by mapleridge

I didn't see that in the regs. The attached picture from the member in PA passed with the AA software.

If he passed in PA with two sensors showing as "not ready", he did so through bribery and/or connections.

PA I can speak to their regs first hand (as I live there)-- they are a one sensor showing as not ready state.

[mapleridge]

Originally Posted by Obioban

If he passed in PA with two sensors showing as "not ready", he did so through bribery and/or connections.

PA I can speak to their regs first hand (as I live there)-- they are a one sensor showing as not ready state.

sorry. messed my states up. He passed in CT.

[mapleridge]

fyi. all this o2 sensor talk. I bought the mini cat from bigdavesgarage. Never heard of them before but everyone says it works. I read a lot about spark plug defoulers and adapters that space the sensor and restrict air flow to the sensor that clear the code. One of these mechanical fixes might just do the trick.

[631twentyeighteye]

I've read about this on older cars, but wasn't sure it would work on such a new and electronically complex car. Please update if you decide to try it out

update: I hopefully will be getting the headers back from the ceramic coater today, and then installing tomorrow.

[631twentyeighteye]

sigh, the ceramic coater is taking is sweet ass time i guess. Won't have these on until next week.

[tuphdc]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

sigh, the ceramic coater is taking is sweet ass time i guess. Won't have these on until next week.

What's the logic behind the ceramic coating?

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by tuphdc

What's the logic behind the ceramic coating?

1-The ceramic coat dissipates heat faster than steel,keeping engine bay temps down and preventing (as much) heatsoak.

2- keep my pipes rust free

[kobeballer96]

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

1-The ceramic coat dissipates heat faster than steel,keeping engine bay temps down and preventing (as much) heatsoak.

2- keep my pipes rust free

yup and if your boosted its rumored to spool faster when you keep the head constrained on th header/downpipe. and did you go with super sprint or the headers one of the members was making for 750$? I can't wait for your dyno. take a video and pictures.

[631twentyeighteye]

The latter