135i vs M4

Jockey · 07-22-2014, 03:08 PM

The M4 is my next car, in 2 years. By that point, I'll have had my 135 for 8 years, 8 glorious years. I have never held onto a car for so long (except my Jeep, but that's a different story).

But there will always be something faster than you on the road.

Huecifer · 07-22-2014, 09:40 PM

I wonder if that M4 is even broken in yet? I've always read long term magazine tests getting more than .5 seconds off the 0-60 times at the end of 10-15k as compared to when the car was brand new.

Esteban · 07-23-2014, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jockey

But there will always be something faster than you on the road.

That's true, but that's not everything. I'm happy with my 135i and I'm keeping it till I die! It's fast enough for me. Hell, it's perfect for me! How fast do you need/want to go anyway? I'll probably never have an ///M car and I don't think I really care. Sure, I admire them. I admire lots of expensive cars and the M4 IS expensive. To each his own. As long as your happy.

.. · 07-25-2014, 06:34 AM

RB 135i > Tuned M4

Zombie1 · 07-25-2014, 07:01 AM

You can see the m4 let off.... Is everyone blind you can see the m4 nose dive towards the end of the video where "the 135i pulls on him"

RoundelM3 · 07-25-2014, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cmcdonald

I can easily see a modded 135i dusting an M4. The M4 is just a newer revision of the N54 in a much heavier car than the 135i. Not surprising at all really.

Not even close - while the M4 engine is a twin-turbo, it's design is new, and is 425 flywheel HP stock versus 300 for the N54; tuned, it will produce well over 500 HP. Also, if you read about the M4, you'll find that it weighs about as much as a 135i due to some serious weight-reduction that went into the overall design when so many customers complained about the E9x M-cars being too heavy.

sdpauly · 07-25-2014, 07:49 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5697423/psa-pleas...ecording-video

PSA: Please Turn Your Damn Cellphone Sideways When Recording Video

ilikebmxbikes · 07-25-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

That's true, but that's not everything. I'm happy with my 135i and I'm keeping it till I die! It's fast enough for me. Hell, it's perfect for me! How fast do you need/want to go anyway? I'll probably never have an ///M car and I don't think I really care. Sure, I admire them. I admire lots of expensive cars and the M4 IS expensive. To each his own. As long as your happy.

I think jockey was saying your exact sentiments.

.. · 07-25-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by roundel335

Not even close - while the M4 engine is a twin-turbo, it's design is new, and is 425 flywheel HP stock versus 300 for the N54; tuned, it will produce well over 500 HP. Also, if you read about the M4, you'll find that it weighs about as much as a 135i due to some serious weight-reduction that went into the overall design when so many customers complained about the E9x M-cars being too heavy.

FBO stock turbos 135i on Meth and E85 with BB flash has no problem keeping up/beating a F10 M5 from a roll. So your statement is invalid.

Jockey · 07-26-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DurimOne54

FBO stock turbos 135i on Meth and E85 with BB flash has no problem keeping up/beating a F10 M5 from a roll. So your statement is invalid.

How does anything you posted invalidate his claim?

RoundelM3 · 07-26-2014, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DurimOne54

FBO stock turbos 135i on Meth and E85 with BB flash has no problem keeping up/beating a F10 M5 from a roll. So your statement is invalid.

I'd love to know what you're smoking...you're comparing to a car that weighs over 1,000 pounds more. My statement was about the new M4 with 425 hp (conservatively rated, probably more like 450) weighing the same, so YOUR statement is completely off-base.

For that matter, an Ariel Atom with a 4-cylinder engine can run off and hide from ANY 135, modified or not. Same thing with a coyote-engined Mustang. It's all about vehicle weight and gearing, not raw power.

MuNkY6913 · 07-26-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by roundel335

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Originally Posted by DurimOne54

FBO stock turbos 135i on Meth and E85 with BB flash has no problem keeping up/beating a F10 M5 from a roll. So your statement is invalid.

I'd love to know what you're smoking...you're comparing to a car that weighs over 1,000 pounds more. My statement was about the new M4 with 425 hp (conservatively rated, probably more like 450) weighing the same, so YOUR statement is completely off-base.

For that matter, an Ariel Atom with a 4-cylinder engine can run off and hide from ANY 135, modified or not. Same thing with a coyote-engined Mustang. It's all about vehicle weight and gearing, not raw power.

Mustang can't keep up. Atleast the 5.0 next to me couldn't keep up to 130.

w3rkn · 07-26-2014, 01:22 PM

Understand, what this video^ illustrates is: .., is the differences in BMW's technology & engineering and/or applied theories on the same 6block.

I own a 135is.. (an anomaly in mich) & at cruising speeds I like to bounce open stretches of land.
I those moments some anxious/obnoxious like to try their luck.. not knowing, or understanding.. but, I'm getting thumbs-up from all types.
Sometimes I don't always win..(as neither horse is freakishly pushing it.)... but the mere fact that I am playing.. (?)

So..
Out in the open & on a cold night and an allowance for moAr breathing... U torture anything in it's path. How it's tuned and what tq:wght each have? Is just physics... & 0bviously for most, it just depends on what YOU want to wrap around those phgysics.. ..what sheetmetal do you prefer..? What tune?

"What type of music.. do you want to feel. ..what journey r u going on..? Any zeal.. "

Coincidentally, BMW has limited what these engines can do, & anything like a little moAr breathing, or COOLING. can make a big diff.

We will see further evidence of this in the upcoming M2 (N55).
(MoAr videos of the M2.5 R, plz..)

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Jockey Brigadier General 3445 Rep 4,981 Posts Drives: 992 C4S Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Park City, UT iTrader: (1)	The M4 is my next car, in 2 years. By that point, I'll have had my 135 for 8 years, 8 glorious years. I have never held onto a car for so long (except my Jeep, but that's a different story). But there will always be something faster than you on the road.
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Huecifer Private First Class 11 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 128i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (0)	I wonder if that M4 is even broken in yet? I've always read long term magazine tests getting more than .5 seconds off the 0-60 times at the end of 10-15k as compared to when the car was brand new.
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w3rkn Banned 10 Rep 390 Posts Drives: BMW 135is Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mich iTrader: (0)	Understand, what this video^ illustrates is: .., is the differences in BMW's technology & engineering and/or applied theories on the same 6block. I own a 135is.. (an anomaly in mich) & at cruising speeds I like to bounce open stretches of land. I those moments some anxious/obnoxious like to try their luck.. not knowing, or understanding.. but, I'm getting thumbs-up from all types. Sometimes I don't always win..(as neither horse is freakishly pushing it.)... but the mere fact that I am playing.. (?) So.. Out in the open & on a cold night and an allowance for moAr breathing... U torture anything in it's path. How it's tuned and what tq:wght each have? Is just physics... & 0bviously for most, it just depends on what YOU want to wrap around those phgysics.. ..what sheetmetal do you prefer..? What tune? "What type of music.. do you want to feel. ..what journey r u going on..? Any zeal.. " Coincidentally, BMW has limited what these engines can do, & anything like a little moAr breathing, or COOLING. can make a big diff. We will see further evidence of this in the upcoming M2 (N55). (MoAr videos of the M2.5 R, plz..)
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