Golf R

Orlin · 08-04-2010, 03:40 AM

I am actually very impressed with how fast this car actually is. I read that the manual was 5.7 seconds to 100km/h and the DSG was 5.5 however the lads over at motor have tested it and said they got 5.3 with a low 13 second quarter mile. I think its safe to say that after a simple ecu tune this thing would be running high 12s.

Jeef Beef · 08-04-2010, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Orlin

I am actually very impressed with how fast this car actually is. I read that the manual was 5.7 seconds to 100km/h and the DSG was 5.5 however the lads over at motor have tested it and said they got 5.3 with a low 13 second quarter mile. I think its safe to say that after a simple ecu tune this thing would be running high 12s.

Yes the R runs almost identical times compared to the Evo X even with a severe power and torque deficit! Shows what the boffins can do at VW with the DSG. Can't imagine how good the Euro-spec 199kw engine would've been

recce · 08-04-2010, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

Yes the R runs almost identical times compared to the Evo X even with a severe power and torque deficit! Shows what the boffins can do at VW with the DSG. Can't imagine how good the Euro-spec 199kw engine would've been

I think VW over rated the 0-100 time. Work out the power to weight ratio of Golf R.

Jeef Beef · 08-04-2010, 10:25 AM

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I think VW over rated the 0-100 time. Work out the power to weight ratio of Golf R.

Nothing to do with VW's claims. This is MOTOR magazine's August Issue comparo between the Evo X and Golf R. Their quoted on-road figures:

0-100kph: Evo-5.30s; Golf-5.37s
0-400m: Evo-13.56; Golf-13.65
80-120: Evo-3.6s; Golf-3.6s

The Evo is around $20k more than the R as well.

Scoobs · 08-04-2010, 05:38 PM

What's the DA price on a R with a few essential options like a roof etc ? Anyone know.

Prior to buying the 1er - it was top of my list, but I needed to be in something before June 30 for tax reasons. Early june VW couldn't confirm a price.

Re performance - as I understand it, the car weighs the same, or more, than the 1er. Has less KWs & Nm's - so if it's pulling the same 0 - 100 as a 1er - that's almost against the laws of physics. Unless ofcourse they are relying heavily on gear ratio's as mentioned above

Dackelone · 08-04-2010, 06:16 PM

When I was at the Ring a few weeks ago... there was a sporty Golf testing there. Not sure IF it was an R or just a GTi Turbo... well.... that Golf woulnd come hauling around the track and that poor thing was understeering like a MoFo! Talk about being a Pig in Fox clothes. lol VAG = Nein Danke fur Mich!

Prodigy. · 08-04-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobs

What's the DA price on a R with a few essential options like a roof etc ? Anyone know.

Depends firstly on whether you go 3 or 5 door, DSG or manual, but i went with 5 door, DSG, Leather, Sunroof and 19" rims and am paying low $60's.

s4008616 · 08-04-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobs

What's the DA price on a R with a few essential options like a roof etc ? Anyone know.

Prior to buying the 1er - it was top of my list, but I needed to be in something before June 30 for tax reasons. Early june VW couldn't confirm a price.

Re performance - as I understand it, the car weighs the same, or more, than the 1er. Has less KWs & Nm's - so if it's pulling the same 0 - 100 as a 1er - that's almost against the laws of physics. Unless ofcourse they are relying heavily on gear ratio's as mentioned above

The fact that it is 4Motion will improve the 0-100 time comparing to our RWD Bimmer.

s4008616 · 08-04-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

Depends firstly on whether you go 3 or 5 door, DSG or manual, but i went with 5 door, DSG, Leather, Sunroof and 19" rims and am paying low $60's.

Did you add Nav?

Prodigy. · 08-04-2010, 08:17 PM

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Did you add Nav?

Didn't bother, my Garmin works well enough for me and it's $2500 for the Nav

Jeef Beef · 08-04-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobs

Re performance - as I understand it, the car weighs the same, or more, than the 1er. Has less KWs & Nm's - so if it's pulling the same 0 - 100 as a 1er - that's almost against the laws of physics. Unless ofcourse they are relying heavily on gear ratio's as mentioned above

Well MOTOR mag pulled 5.22s for their bone stock 135i long termer. We're also faster to 400m.

Our cars are still ahead of the Evo and R for straight line performance.

Prodigy. · 08-04-2010, 08:32 PM

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Well MOTOR mag pulled 5.22s for their bone stock 135i long termer. We're also faster to 400m.

Our cars are still ahead of the Evo and R for straight line performance.

I would have to agree, having test drove two 135i's before ordering the R, the BMW definitely felt quicker when you planted it.

Scoobs · 08-05-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Prodigy 72

Depends firstly on whether you go 3 or 5 door, DSG or manual, but i went with 5 door, DSG, Leather, Sunroof and 19" rims and am paying low $60's.

Wow... I thought they were going to be in the high 60's ~ low 70's....

Lurv the 1er - but that price is almost $20K less than what I paid...

Scoobs · 08-05-2010, 12:58 AM

^^^ Think it is worth the extra $20k over the GTI ?

Prodigy. · 08-05-2010, 01:08 AM

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^^^ Think it is worth the extra $20k over the GTI ?

That's the thing, it's not $20k more than the GTI, RRP there is only $10k difference, once you start adding some options to the GTI which are standard on the base R the difference becomes even smaller, plus obviously your getting 4wd over FWD.

Scoobs · 08-05-2010, 01:21 AM

^^^^ interesting.... Well, I had made my mind up to buy the R site unseen. It was purely by chance that I was given a 125 loaner that got me thinking about the 1er coupe. Then VW couldn't confirm pricing etc etc.

With 20 20 hind site - Think I would have been tempted with the R given the price difference.

But as I said.... lurv the 1er.

Gunna get it tuned ?

MikeVictor · 08-05-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobs

^^^^ interesting.... Well, I had made my mind up to buy the R site unseen. It was purely by chance that I was given a 125 loaner that got me thinking about the 1er coupe. Then VW couldn't confirm pricing etc etc.

With 20 20 hind site - Think I would have been tempted with the R given the price difference.

But as I said.... lurv the 1er.

Gunna get it tuned ?

I was looking at the 2008 Golf R (an S3) and had the same issues - couldn't confirm pricing/options etc for the 5-door.

Took a look at a 135i while I was waiting on Vaudirschgini, test drove it, never looked back.

Prodigy. · 08-05-2010, 02:37 AM

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Gunna get it tuned ?

I'm sure i will eventually, but i won't be in any rush to.

Darren135 · 08-10-2010, 10:23 PM

Grats on the new R. A friend of mine in Sydney was lucky enough to get the 2nd one at the dealership. He loves it and so far no problems. It does feel noticeably slower in a straight line to the 135 but corners like it is on rails.

Prodigy. · 08-10-2010, 11:28 PM

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Grats on the new R. A friend of mine in Sydney was lucky enough to get the 2nd one at the dealership. He loves it and so far no problems. It does feel noticeably slower in a straight line to the 135 but corners like it is on rails.

Thanks mate, only trouble now is that i have to wait 3-4 months for it to arrive and having already sold my previous car not having a vehicle of my own is already becoming a major issue.

If worse comes to worse i may have to cancel the order and look for an alternative.

esky · 08-12-2010, 12:23 AM

Barloworld VW Fivedock are having a 3 day sale from tomorrow.

2010 Golf R 5 Door, DSG, Black, Leather, Sunroof, Slimline Weathershield, 2,636, ZR40BK $62,990 Drive Away

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Orlin Major 44 Rep 1,359 Posts Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (1)	I am actually very impressed with how fast this car actually is. I read that the manual was 5.7 seconds to 100km/h and the DSG was 5.5 however the lads over at motor have tested it and said they got 5.3 with a low 13 second quarter mile. I think its safe to say that after a simple ecu tune this thing would be running high 12s.
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Scoobs Banned 7 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 135i Space Grey DCT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	What's the DA price on a R with a few essential options like a roof etc ? Anyone know. Prior to buying the 1er - it was top of my list, but I needed to be in something before June 30 for tax reasons. Early june VW couldn't confirm a price. Re performance - as I understand it, the car weighs the same, or more, than the 1er. Has less KWs & Nm's - so if it's pulling the same 0 - 100 as a 1er - that's almost against the laws of physics. Unless ofcourse they are relying heavily on gear ratio's as mentioned above
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Dackelone European Editor 10539 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	When I was at the Ring a few weeks ago... there was a sporty Golf testing there. Not sure IF it was an R or just a GTi Turbo... well.... that Golf woulnd come hauling around the track and that poor thing was understeering like a MoFo! Talk about being a Pig in Fox clothes. lol VAG = Nein Danke fur Mich!
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Scoobs Banned 7 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 135i Space Grey DCT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	^^^ Think it is worth the extra $20k over the GTI ?
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Scoobs Banned 7 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 135i Space Grey DCT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	^^^^ interesting.... Well, I had made my mind up to buy the R site unseen. It was purely by chance that I was given a 125 loaner that got me thinking about the 1er coupe. Then VW couldn't confirm pricing etc etc. With 20 20 hind site - Think I would have been tempted with the R given the price difference. But as I said.... lurv the 1er. Gunna get it tuned ?
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Darren135 New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (0)	Grats on the new R. A friend of mine in Sydney was lucky enough to get the 2nd one at the dealership. He loves it and so far no problems. It does feel noticeably slower in a straight line to the 135 but corners like it is on rails.
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esky "Bessie" 2 Rep 40 Posts Drives: 123d coupe - AW/Terra, M sport Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: syd, australia iTrader: (0)	Barloworld VW Fivedock are having a 3 day sale from tomorrow. 2010 Golf R 5 Door, DSG, Black, Leather, Sunroof, Slimline Weathershield, 2,636, ZR40BK $62,990 Drive Away
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