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[larryn]

He's talking about the sniffer built into Progman 29.2 and higher, or DME V81, that detects fuel consumption and boost figures to determine you have a tune installed. If you go beyond certain set parameters, then you store a code for the BMW center to see.

DP's in combo with JB3 are enough to trip that flag.

[adrean8j]

Hmm...I wonder if my SSTT with RR DP's trips the code....would love to have the power of the JB3 though...

[Kris]

I think most tunes will do that flag if you have DPs if you go over the torque threshold.... I'm not too concerned, I dont have downpipes and if/by the time I do I'm sure someone will have a solution!

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by Kris

I think most tunes will do that flag if you have DPs if you go over the torque threshold.... I'm not too concerned, I dont have downpipes and if/by the time I do I'm sure someone will have a solution!

Lets see how it all goes with your JB3 tune Kris :smile:

'Just my opinion' but if you achieve similar outstanding results in terms of power and performance, to what people in the US have with just a JB3 only and all else stock - you may not even have to bother with more mods and expense in this area :iono:

I'd then do suspension/wheels and cosmetic upgrades (which you may be doing anyway) and maybe a cat or axle back only for better exhaust note and aesthetics, a quad as posted a while ago would be nice :smile:

[WAY]

Wraith, how much are the guys with JB3 gaining over stock? Will really be interested to see what Kris dyno look like next week especially with our local fuel.

[WAY]

Originally Posted by larryn

He's talking about the sniffer built into Progman 29.2 and higher, or DME V81, that detects fuel consumption and boost figures to determine you have a tune installed. If you go beyond certain set parameters, then you store a code for the BMW center to see.

DP's in combo with JB3 are enough to trip that flag.

Ok thanks Larry. I am guessing AA's conservative boost numbers (we are seeing under 13's max even with the DP) is the saving grace here. I am getting some pretty big numbers with AA though (240kw atw), but I hear JB3's numbers are even more aggresive!

[Kris]

Originally Posted by Wraith

Lets see how it all goes with your JB3 tune Kris :smile:

'Just my opinion' but if you achieve similar outstanding results in terms of power and performance, to what people in the US have with just a JB3 only and all else stock - you may not even have to bother with more mods and expense in this area :iono:

I'd then do suspension/wheels and cosmetic upgrades (which you may be doing anyway) and maybe a cat or axle back only for better exhaust note and aesthetics, a quad as posted a while ago would be nice :smile:

Yepo! Tyres, some carbon goodies, chip and exhaust and perhaps a catted downpipe may be all I ever need/want.

[Zuzu]

Hey Kris...Burger Motorsports "SOLD OUT" of JB3 PNP..

[Kris]

Told ya to be quick

[Zuzu]

Emailed Terry yesterday in regards to shipping costs..
He replied today, tried to order....BUT sold out..:iono:

[Kris]

bugger! more will come out soon!

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by Zuzu

Hey Kris...Burger Motorsports "SOLD OUT" of JB3 PNP..

If you order the JB3 pinout version and the PNP upgrade harness, its the same price (779) and you will get it faster than waiting for PNP to come back in stock.

-Rick

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by WAY

Wraith, how much are the guys with JB3 gaining over stock? Will really be interested to see what Kris dyno look like next week especially with our local fuel.

They qoute +80whp and +80lbs/ft wtorq.

So around 59kw and 107nm gain at the wheels, with ALL else stock :smile:

Then there's the chap who has installed it and run some numbers, he's managed a high 3sec to 100km/h and a low 12 over the 1/4 - very good if not excellent results with the JB3 tune and nothing else, except I believe he used better tyres for those better times, which I think most other people will also mod, ie: better rims and tyres :smile:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...t=12993&page=2

[NY SLC 93]

Originally Posted by larryn

He's talking about the sniffer built into Progman 29.2 and higher, or DME V81, that detects fuel consumption and boost figures to determine you have a tune installed. If you go beyond certain set parameters, then you store a code for the BMW center to see.

DP's in combo with JB3 are enough to trip that flag.

To confirm - By itself, this JB3 (and all other JB1 and JB2) are undetectable by the dealer when removed?