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330i vs Audi A4 3.2 quattro vs Lexus Is350
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09-20-2005, 05:05 PM | #45 |
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Japanese trash? lol. thats a bit offensive.
I've been japanese car owner for years now, never had any german. I currently still own a honda(my BMW is due in few weeks). but I do find it somehow funny, because thats what im going to say to my friends(they all have japanese vehicles). of course, as a joke. Saying Japanese is trash over german cars is a bit ignorant though. Japanese cars stand up their own, and are not as over-priced as german cars. I would say MB/BMW > Japanese cars yet, but not VW or Audi. Tell them to learn how to make cars correctly, without having such bad reliability problems. MB/BMW are known for electrical problems also, while top quality japanese vehicles are virtually maintence free. And G35 is CLEARLY faster than BMW 330i. 350Z also. Is350 is also faster, and I even heard TL is faster too. BMW said they won't lose the Horsepower race, but they are. Competitions are clearly faster than standard 325/330s. G35 6spd is capable of running high 13s to low 14s stock. Thats what happens when you have more torque and HP in a car that is lighter than 330i. 255hp/220tq is NOT impressive AT ALL. I know quite a few people will laugh at my 330i when I tell them I spent $40,000 for a car that has 255hp and weighs 3500pds. Evos and STIs are much better performer. 330i isn't very sporty as what most say. There are many japanese vehicles that'll give it a serious challenge. but I guess at the end, Lexus is still a toyota, Acura is still a Honda, infiniti is still a nissan, but BMW is a BMW.
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09-20-2005, 05:35 PM | #46 | |
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not clearly, only by 0.1s, and it needed 40 more hp and 40 more tq in order to do so. nothing to brag about. the Tl is faster than the 330i though.
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09-20-2005, 05:38 PM | #47 |
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A4 didn't have manual option, IS350 won't have manual option for a year at least, otherwise they would have been very attractive as well. G35's interior was not something I could live with, TL was too big for my taste.
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09-20-2005, 05:59 PM | #48 | |
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But we shall see in "real life" numbers. all these magazine numbers aren't very accurate as you already know. I live in G35drivers forums, and i know exactly how they perform. I was going to buy G35C until I saw the 330i. If I care more for straightline performance and aftermarket parts availability for future tuning(without spending $1000 for intake and $2000 for exhaust), I would've gone for G35 no questions asked. Also, keep in mind previous numbers i've pointed out are for G35C, not G35S. 2006 G35 Sedan: 3500 pds(disadvantage) 298hp (advantage) 260tq (advantage) Power to weight ratio: 0.08hp per pd (advantage) Weight to power: 11.7pds per hp (advantage) 2006 330i Sedan: 3450 pds (advantage) 255hp (disadvantage) 220tq (disadvantage) Power to weight ratio: 0.07hp per pd (disadvantage) weight to power: 13.5pds per hp (disadvantage) G35 sedan also has 0.5 liter more(no replacement for displacement). And that is nothing to brag, UNTIL price comes into play. While G35 sedan MSRP is about $6000 cheaper than 330i, provides much more potential(displacement wise, and tuning wise) and standard power. 330i is not a straightline performer, but "over-all" well built vehicle.
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09-20-2005, 06:10 PM | #50 |
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^ agreed. e92 coupe will be better comparison to g35c.
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09-20-2005, 06:21 PM | #52 |
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HAdi wrote in part, "G35 is the best exterior in ur opinion!!!and the interior TL,,no odffense but u must be asian ,,loving this crap,i belive so that E90 is quite expensive,,but its the best and why u own one if u think TL and G35 is better!!!! man u have an issues see doctor!"
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09-20-2005, 06:22 PM | #53 |
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I don't quite understand Hadi's post.
Is he saying Tl/G35 is better or 330i?
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09-20-2005, 06:59 PM | #55 |
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umm.. lol. Well im an asian, and I think TL interior(design) is nicer than 330i.
Both TL and 330i have awesome fit and finish, and I think 330i used better quality materials. But even interior design is matter of personal preference in my opinion. Iam a relatively young guy, so I guess I prefer something more "fancy-er" like the TL, opposed to more "quiet" and generous interior like 330i. so basically thats just me. I think TL and 330i both has awesome interior. G35 interior is plain cheap though.
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anyway, i cant decide on what i want to do yet. i still want to drive a is 350 just in case |
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09-20-2005, 08:44 PM | #57 |
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In my opinion, Japanese cars(Lexus, Acura, etc.) are better built
than BMW by 9.7 miles. They have better quality, realiability, and value. I bought my 330i because of the BMW badge, not because it's a better car. If my E90 had a FORD, DODGE, or CHEVY badge..... I wouldn't even considered looking at it. Honestly, how many of you would buy your E90 if it was one of those so-called BIG THREE made in America? Probably.....5%.
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Strange thought that both link I gave you are referring to a manual 3.2 (not DSG ...). In any case I stop looking at A4s after I drove the e90 and I ordered one .... fdc
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Wow ... just wait a bit and the same topic comes around again! Fancy that! I'll just plug in what I said in the C&D review thread re the IS350...
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I just can't imagine some dude squealing "Lexus Rules" at Zandvort, Monaco, or the Ring ... but ya never know. .
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Toyota has been in F1 for 3 years - full factory team. R Schumacher and J Trulli driving.
And Subaru/Mitsubishi has been in rallyeing for a number of years with many wins under their belt. Try again |
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