Just got my er intercooler today and not to happy with the welds!!!

[thebigragu99]

Hey guys I did alot of research before I picked the er core and was expecting top notch quality..I opened the box and it was very well packed so there's was no damage,it came perfect..

When I pulled it out the box to look at the welds.I have to admit I was very unhappy with them they were very choppy and bumpy, not smooth at all..It actually looked like a ebay core,but the fin design was a high density and was exactly what I was looking for.

The bottom line is,I paid a nice chunk for the kit and was expecting a bit more top notch welds.I hope the core itself,provides the performance and cooling like expected.DId you guys feel the same way I did with the welds???Thanks.

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

Hey guys I did alot of research before I picked the er core and was expecting top notch quality..I opened the box and it was very well packed so there's was no damage,it came perfect..

When I pulled it out the box to look at the welds.I have to admit I was very unhappy with them they were very choppy and bumpy, not smooth at all..It actually looked like a ebay core,but the fin design was a high density and was exactly what I was looking for.

The bottom line is,I paid a nice chunk for the kit and was expecting a bit more top notch welds.I hope the core itself,provides the performance and cooling like expected.DId you guys feel the same way I did with the welds???Thanks.

yeah, just took a look at another er intercooler and found the same quality welds. I guess it really depends on the fin and air flow design (?) I'm ordering a Forge motorsport FMIC tomorrow....the welds look a bit better than the er but that is subjective on my part. Good luck

[RnmEvo9]

Glad I went with the Helix. Top notch product and excellent customer service.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

Glad I went with the Helix. Top notch product and excellent customer service.

Just looked at the helix,and I have to be honest the welds aren't any better too!!

[Kamal]

Glad to say the welds on the HPF intercooler are pretty damn good!

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Kamal

Glad to say the welds on the HPF intercooler are pretty damn good!

Really ??I'm not to thrilled about their fins ! That's what's make a intercooler efficient!! The er might not have the greatest welds,but I bet you from the fin design it serves it's purpose very well ..it reminds me if the garret style cores used on supras,and evos!this is the fact of the matter,bigger is not always better ,but the fin makeup tells the story.I'm not the happiest right now ,but at least I got the anodized version..lol.

[MilehighM3]

I have only seem one ER core and it looked way better than that....maybe they have a new rookie welder lol

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

I have only seem one ER core and it looked way better than that....maybe they have a new rookie welder lol

Or maybe their 5 year old son?? Lol

[Alex@Helix]

we will have our intercoolers back in stock in a few weeks. A lot of customers are people who ordered intercoolers like you did and decided to upgrade. You absolutely wouldnt have these kind of problems with the Helix intercooler.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Alex@Helix

we will have our intercoolers back in stock in a few weeks. A lot of customers are people who ordered intercoolers like you did and decided to upgrade. You absolutely wouldnt have these kind of problems with the Helix intercooler.

From the pics of your intercoolers,your don't look any better either.Ill bet anything from the looks of the fins,it will out perform the helix and many others..I guess I have to deal with the welds,cause I heard this design on the fins and core are serious!!!

[thebigragu99]

I'm very picky when it comes to welding!!You had to see my old 5 inch intercooler I had on my last car,the welds were unbeliveable.

[LOLrance]

You should email ER and see what they have to say, the welds on my ER intercooler look nothing like that. They are very smooth and even.

[Alex@Helix]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

From the pics of your intercoolers,your don't look any better either.Ill bet anything from the looks of the fins,it will out perform the helix and many others..I guess I have to deal with the welds,cause I heard this design on the fins and core are serious!!!

I seriously doubt that... In fact, Id love for you to come to Helix with that intercooler so we can find out...

We always welcome independent testing.

[BSM 135i]

Originally Posted by l4wr3nc3

You should email ER and see what they have to say, the welds on my ER intercooler look nothing like that. They are very smooth and even.

+1! Hit up Fred, i have nothing but positive things to say about ER and their customer service i'm sure he will do everything he can to make you happy.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by BSM 135i

+1! Hit up Fred, i have nothing but positive things to say about ER and their customer service i'm sure he will do everything he can to make you happy.

Fred is a cool guy and the customer service is great.I should call him to see what he says,but I bought from a vender and they told me they will contact er for me..If I don't hear from the vender,I'm calling fred at er..

[BSM 135i]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

Fred is a cool guy and the customer service is great.I should call him to see what he says,but I bought from a vender and they told me they will contact er for me..If I don't hear from the vender,I'm calling fred at er..

I suggest calling him directly, when i had a problem with my CF engine cover that i bought from **********s i contacted Fred directly and he treated me as if i bought directly from him. Most vendors don't even stock the parts but rather just order from them once they receive your order anyways...

[bogart]

I haven't been happy with ER's quality lately. Their charge pipe had fitment issues as well. Those welds look like they were done by a 5 year old. I think a blind grandma could do better than whoever did those welds. But, at the same time, look at the bright side, it won't leak!! LOL

[Evolution Racewerks]

I apologize for the welds. The bad looking welds in question is the side plate on the intercooler core itself. It's basically the extra sheet of material on the side of the intercooler that give extra protection on the charge row. Since this plate is welded directly onto the charge rows, it is very critical that you do not penetrate into the charge row. Basically, it's a bit difficult since if you screw up and penetrate into the charge row, you make a hole into the core and the core is no good. The core is the most expensive part of the intercooler so it's a bit stressful for the welder. Thus, his most important priority is to make sure there are no leaks.

Also, we are not the ones who welded that section. That is welded by our intercooler core manufacturer that we contract to build the cores for us. I will speak with them about this and get them to do a better job of welding. The ones we have here look fine to me. I don't have direct control of who welds which cores. I guess it's a hit or miss. Plus everyone has days when they're off.

Even though it is not directly welded by us, it's still our responsibility so I apologize for this. We do try our best to be perfect but sometimes stuff just happens. If you want, we can exchange another FMIC assembly with you.

Now, the welded section on the end tank to the intercooler core was done by us. I'm pretty sure the welding is pretty decent here as it's done by us. I'm pretty confident with our welders here.

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

Hey guys I did alot of research before I picked the er core and was expecting top notch quality..I opened the box and it was very well packed so there's was no damage,it came perfect..

When I pulled it out the box to look at the welds.I have to admit I was very unhappy with them they were very choppy and bumpy, not smooth at all..It actually looked like a ebay core,but the fin design was a high density and was exactly what I was looking for.

The bottom line is,I paid a nice chunk for the kit and was expecting a bit more top notch welds.I hope the core itself,provides the performance and cooling like expected.DId you guys feel the same way I did with the welds???Thanks.

[Evolution Racewerks]

If there's a problem with your ER part, please contact me at fredsu@evolutionracewerks.com so we can take care of it. Basically almost everything is covered under our limited lifetime warranty.

Originally Posted by bogart

I haven't been happy with ER's quality lately. Their charge pipe had fitment issues as well. Those welds look like they were done by a 5 year old. I think a blind grandma could do better than whoever did those welds. But, at the same time, look at the bright side, it won't leak!! LOL

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by Evolution Racewerks

Even though it is not directly welded by us, it's still our responsibility so I apologize for this. We do try our best to be perfect but sometimes stuff just happens. If you want, we can exchange another FMIC assembly with you.

Now that is good customer service...

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by ken1137

Now that is good customer service...

Yes!! They have great customer service me and Fred chatted for a good Hour trying to resolve this issue ,and explaining to me the procedure and quality control methods on thier the core and end tanks..The welding on the core box itself wasn't don't at er ,but the end tanks were and I can tell you there 50 times better..thanks Fred for responding back and clearing some things uP!!

[BSM 135i]

to Fred!