Whats is wrong with this Sparkplugs ?

Alf_flash · 09-27-2013, 09:27 PM

Hello, after a terrible gas milage i decided to upgrade to a "superior" spark plug in my N52 and bought the pulstar plugs which are adevertised as the greatest sparkplugs of all time...

Long story short.... The performance was terrible, so after 1,000 miles i decided to take the out to inspection and to replace them with NGK irididums.

Look the burned marks in these plugs, can anyone help me to understand what happened ?

The plugs where properlly calibrated as per Pulstar suggested for the N52.

Thank you

TheSt|G · 09-27-2013, 09:58 PM

I never will understand why people want to deviate from OE on this kind of stuff.

Alf_flash · 09-27-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I never will understand why people want to deviate from OE on this kind of stuff.

So what sparkplugs do you recommend ?

GermX-85 · 09-28-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf_flash

So what sparkplugs do you recommend ?

OEM spark plugs

Dackelone · 09-28-2013, 05:37 AM

Go to your local dealer and buy a set of new BMW-Bosch plugs for your car. Your car will then run the way it is suppose to, when it was new.

Lester · 09-28-2013, 05:43 AM

They seem to work well in a 1994 Ford Aspire......

Independent Tests

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com - Independent Test Results Blog
I bought and tested these plugs against other newplugs in my 1994 Ford Aspire. Under controlled test runs these plugs gave just shy of 4mpg better fuel economy. They were tested against E3s and Bosh platinums.

TheSt|G · 09-28-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GermX-85

OEM spark plugs

OE actually, but close.

GermX-85 · 09-28-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

OE actually, but close.

Oops

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Dackelone · 09-28-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lester

They seem to work well in a 1994 Ford Aspire......

Independent Tests

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com - Independent Test Results Blog
I bought and tested these plugs against other newplugs in my 1994 Ford Aspire. Under controlled test runs these plugs gave just shy of 4mpg better fuel economy. They were tested against E3s and Bosh platinums.

I think they need to explain how a spark plug can make the engine run at a lower rpm!!! That is total BS. Only gearing can do that!

OP - you need to buy new spark plugs from a BMW dealer. Not some gypsy aftermarket Bosch ones. Buy the real deal and report back.

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The answer was actually staring us in the face but we didn't notice it until the second car was being run. At say 55mph, the rpm of the engine is less with Pulstar plugs installed as opposed to stock plugs. What does this mean for fuel economy though?

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com

Suprgnat · 09-28-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

I think they need to explain how a spark plug can make the engine run at a lower rpm!!!

I lolled.

pj.rodriguez · 09-28-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

OP - you need to buy new spark plugs from a BMW dealer. Not some gypsy aftermarket Bosch ones.

LOL HAHA gypsy

631twentyeighteye · 09-28-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

I think they need to explain how a spark plug can make the engine run at a lower rpm!!! That is total BS. Only gearing can do that!

OP - you need to buy new spark plugs from a BMW dealer. Not some gypsy aftermarket Bosch ones. Buy the real deal and report back.

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com

Im sick of this false info being spread around. No, you CAN use Bosch equivalent plugs, as i have and my engine runs perfect and they literally looked exactly like the NGK plugs that came out(previous owner) and the OEM ones. Neither ran bad or worked any different than OEM plugs, you'd never know the difference.

edit: to clarify, i bought them from ECS tuning, they're my go to online source for parts that actually work on the car and not any shotty aftermarket equivalents.

631twentyeighteye · 09-28-2013, 10:32 PM

Any pictures or evidence to back this up? mine were identical.

Dackelone · 09-28-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Im sick of this false info being spread around. No, you CAN use Bosch equivalent plugs, as i have and my engine runs perfect and they literally looked exactly like the NGK plugs that came out(previous owner) and the OEM ones. Neither ran bad or worked any different than OEM plugs, you'd never know the difference.

edit: to clarify, i bought them from ECS tuning, they're my go to online source for parts that actually work on the car and not any shotty aftermarket equivalents.

The ceramic insulator IS different(!) from BMW-Bosch OE plugs vs OEM Bosch plugs. There is a difference. Why else would so many people have issues with OEM va virtually no problems with OE plugs.

kobeballer96 · 09-29-2013, 01:14 AM

Lol we run E3 plugs? haha

kobeballer96 · 09-29-2013, 01:20 AM

and i hope that link provided wasn't for the n54 n55 because why on earth would you want to run those on a FI car? you want cooler plugs. E3s are junk.

631twentyeighteye · 09-29-2013, 07:39 AM

n52 plugs don't look like that in the first place, they're single's, not triple.

TheSt|G · 09-29-2013, 09:13 AM

When every authority on BMW maintenance tells you to use the OE plugs, why would you not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

I think they need to explain how a spark plug can make the engine run at a lower rpm!!! That is total BS. Only gearing can do that!

OP - you need to buy new spark plugs from a BMW dealer. Not some gypsy aftermarket Bosch ones. Buy the real deal and report back.

http://pulstarplug.blogspot.com

Ugh, I missed that garbage before.

631twentyeighteye · 09-29-2013, 07:34 PM

Bosch produces the OE plugs, why would they make anything differently than that? So you'd only get coil packs from the dealership and not Bosch coil packs? I don't understand the logic behind this, especially when i compared all 3 first hand.

kobeballer96 · 09-29-2013, 11:48 PM

^ I like this guy! OE isn't always better especially once you start adding power.

TheSt|G · 09-30-2013, 07:41 AM

Own enough BMWs for long enough and it becomes very clear that OE and OEM are two completely separate things. Most people have to figure that out for themselves though.

631twentyeighteye · 09-30-2013, 08:08 AM

In most cases i agree with you, But after first hand using OE bosch, OEM NGK, and OEM bosch, i've discovered that all 3 work perfectly fine, stock, or with DISA and a tune. It was one of my coil packs that went bad when i swapped manifolds. Or perhaps for better wording, the power upgrade showed the weak point in my motor, which happened to be the coil pack.

However i do understand where your coming from, i just personally don't think it's the case in the spark plug situation.

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kobeballer96 Major 175 Rep 1,491 Posts Drives: 6SPD E82 Join Date: May 2013 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (4)	and i hope that link provided wasn't for the n54 n55 because why on earth would you want to run those on a FI car? you want cooler plugs. E3s are junk.
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631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	n52 plugs don't look like that in the first place, they're single's, not triple. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	Bosch produces the OE plugs, why would they make anything differently than that? So you'd only get coil packs from the dealership and not Bosch coil packs? I don't understand the logic behind this, especially when i compared all 3 first hand. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	In most cases i agree with you, But after first hand using OE bosch, OEM NGK, and OEM bosch, i've discovered that all 3 work perfectly fine, stock, or with DISA and a tune. It was one of my coil packs that went bad when i swapped manifolds. Or perhaps for better wording, the power upgrade showed the weak point in my motor, which happened to be the coil pack. However i do understand where your coming from, i just personally don't think it's the case in the spark plug situation. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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