Doug DeMuro's Re-Review of the 1M

[einscot]

he also thinks every car "has such linear power. <grin>." i mean he wasn't expecting a 700 hp vehicle to have power but it does! and he also never expects a car to be able to steer, but imagine the fact that it has a steering wheel and goes where it's pointed!!!

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by Murph335

He says BMW made them for only 1 yr and in limited # for the US bc they didn't think anyone would buy them?

This is 2010/2011 and we are talking about the N54 which many have uncorked already. Did BMW market researchers live in a vacuum? Probably the same group that thought the Turbo Supra wouldn't catch on.


So let's recap... N54, add LSD, add WideBody, less weight.
Yeah everyone will hate it so lets make a 335IS, and detune the normal 335i with an N55.
Then, lets bring the N54 concept back heavier but charge $80k+ and call it M3.
We will then toss the N55 in the M2 to make sure its not as powerful or can't be easy tuned faster than the F80.

1M is an incredible car in many ways including the $$. I would go for a vert option instead even with the weight penalty.

I still have love for an ESS625 e9x M3, and consider the change for the v8 sound; but a stock one... pass.

More like M3 and 1M eater.
Let's go anytime I'll bring my N54 car and we'll see that
It sucks to get beaten by a car 1/4 the price but sometimes maybe that's needed...
Right Red Kook Kraut ?

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

More like M3 and 1M eater. I'll go against one anytime w my S54 car. It sucks to get beaten by a car 1/4 the price but sometimes that's a good thing
Right ?)

* Good Lord... Somebody take the RED TAPE off this dude stat !!

[3s-a-charm]

Why the auto manufacturers aren't really listening to this kind of message is boggling my brain. Hey, build what we want and we will buy it.

[GimmeanM]

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Why the auto manufacturers aren't really listening to this kind of message is boggling my brain. Hey, build what we want and we will buy it.

True, but consider that we are a select few. The fact that we are as enthusiastic as we are means we're not most of their target market anymore (most people don't chat about cars). BMW is trying to sell the neutered version of themselves, a version the majority of the market seems to think they want.

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

* Good Lord... Somebody take the RED TAPE off this dude stat !!

Lol

[8081M]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

* Good Lord... Somebody take the RED TAPE off this dude stat !!

[ORIGIN M.]

Super Fly or Superficial ?


You decide !

[IB M]

Originally Posted by BigMacSmallFries

Guess what, the E9x M3, E92 M3 GTS, E46 M3, E46 M3 CSL, E39 M5, Z8... All drive considerably better than the 1M. Everybody has an opinion, this is a shitty one.

Back in the day the 1M came a close second to the E9xM in a lengthy review i remember with two white cars. It was really splitting hairs. The two reviewers (Carlos and ...)drove both cars back to back. If I can find it I'll post. It was well done circa 2012.

Edit. Found it Motor Trend:

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

True, but consider that we are a select few. The fact that we are as enthusiastic as we are means we're not most of their target market anymore (most people don't chat about cars). BMW is trying to sell the neutered version of themselves, a version the majority of the market seems to think they want.

lol.

A "select few " 740 people bought a 1M in 6 months in the US and 6300 or so we're so worldwide in less than 15 months.

A " select few " 2500 people bought the cayman GT4 in about the same time frame.

Do you know why these figures are so small?

Manufacturer limitations on production.



NOT limitations of consumer demand.

According to Porsche .. only a " select few " 5 percent of their buyers wanted a manual gearbox in the 911. So they stopped making the 911GT3 with a manual. Guess what happened ?

A " select few " Porsche owners made their voices heard and the 911-R was made and a " select few " buyers bought all those up as well!

Now Porsche says that 30 percent of their buyers want a manual in the 911 GT3.

Don't let the manufacturers twist you around bro.

[redux]

[Stu Pedasho]

How good is the clutch? "Sooooo good".

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Super Fly or Superficial ?

You decide !

You make no sense whatsoever wizards not helping you either just FYI

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

lol.

A "select few " 740 people bought a 1M in 6 months in the US and 6300 or so we're so worldwide in less than 15 months.

A " select few " 2500 people bought the cayman GT4 in about the same time frame.

Do you know why these figures are so small?

Manufacturer limitations on production.



NOT limitations of consumer demand.

According to Porsche .. only a " select few " 5 percent of their buyers wanted a manual gearbox in the 911. So they stopped making the 911GT3 with a manual. Guess what happened ?

A " select few " Porsche owners made their voices heard and the 911-R was made and a " select few " buyers bought all those up as well!

Now Porsche says that 30 percent of their buyers want a manual in the 911 GT3.

Don't let the manufacturers twist you around bro.

Amen

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Super Fly or Superficial ?

You decide !

Don't bring the lord into it Kraut
use the wizards powers
" They shall not pass ! "



Lol

[Brake_Late]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Super Fly or Superficial ?

You decide !

Fly by you most certainly

[CarJunkie]

Well this deteriorated . ..

[Falafel Combo]

Incorrect. The best BMW ever made was the ZHP e46 330i, 6MT of course. Followed by the e46 M3. 6MT, obviously.

We don't have to rehash this every few years whenever somone feels like making a new video about a 1M.

The 1M gets a lot of fanfare due to its limited production. And I don't expect the novelty to wear off anytime soon.

Come on guys. It was an after thought made from the ///M parts bin. Not a true purpose-built ///M car.

[imserious]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

* Good Lord... Somebody take the RED TAPE off this dude stat !!

Can't do it. They hold all the sensors required for maximum boost.

[rad doc]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

Incorrect. The best BMW ever made was the ZHP e46 330i, 6MT of course. Followed by the e46 M3. 6MT, obviously.

We don't have to rehash this every few years whenever somone feels like making a new video about a 1M.

The 1M gets a lot of fanfare due to its limited production. And I don't expect the novelty to wear off anytime soon.

Come on guys. It was an after thought made from the ///M parts bin. Not a true purpose-built ///M car.

Man I sure love my "parts bin, not purpose-built m car". Wouldn't trade it for any other M car available in the states especially the bloated pigs! Apparently a lot of other people feel that way too!

[ayao]

Originally Posted by redux

LMFAO!!!!! Sums it up quite nicely.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by rad doc

Man I sure love my "parts bin, not purpose-built m car". Wouldn't trade it for any other M car available in the states especially the bloated pigs! Apparently a lot of other people feel that way too!

I love your enthusiasm and passion! We all drive what we love and appreciate, and I respect that.

My comments are in no way meant to demean your 1M, but rather reminding people of its root and how it has evolved. And placing it in its proper historical perspective.

I also wholeheartedly agree that it is very likely a much more enjoyable experince than most cars in the modern BMW M lineup. But then again, I am a purist and prefer small, connected and visceral cars versus spread sheets and lap times.

Enjoy!