BMW recall

Zuzu · 08-04-2010, 09:29 PM

I gave my dealer a call today, seeing that my car falls within the dateline parrameters and I havent been notified to date.

Was informed that its not so much a "recall" but a "Campaign"...

...Whatever..

So booked the car in for a Oil/filter service next week and the "Campaign" upgrades( taillight seals and HPFP software upgrade )

BMWRX · 08-04-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

So booked the car in for a Oil/filter service next week and the "Campaign" upgrades( taillight seals and HPFP software upgrade )

I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed a drop in performance (or has dyno charts proving it) after having the HPFP software amendment. Anyone?

Taymaishu · 08-04-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWRX

I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed a drop in performance (or has dyno charts proving it) after having the HPFP software amendment. Anyone?

Interestingly enough, my ECU was upgraded with the latest N52 software and i swear it is a hell of a lot more responsive in the throttle.

Jeef Beef · 08-04-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWRX

I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed a drop in performance (or has dyno charts proving it) after having the HPFP software amendment. Anyone?

My 'bum-dyno' seems to indicate the acceleration is definitely not as savage anymore. Performance might be still the same though since the update might have made power deliver smoother, but less fun.

m 135 · 08-05-2010, 07:21 AM

Got me a little worried when there was talk of a decrease in power after the update because i did not know they were doing that in conjuction with the lights repair,but when i saw this thread about the humming i knew they had done one,but i dont feel any change in power delivery....thank god

xclandestine35i · 08-10-2010, 07:10 PM

got the call pretty randomly, 2 days ago, replaced both rear lights and HPFP

xclandestine35i · 08-10-2010, 07:26 PM

Also, power delivery isnt as urgent as it once was since the upgrade. I miss it.

adrian@vishnu · 08-10-2010, 09:15 PM

I have a May 08 135I, but I am second owner. Should I contact BMW to get this "recall" done or is it not a full recall so my car may not need to be done?

Cheers,

Adrian

Taymaishu · 08-10-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by adrian@vishnu

I have a May 08 135I, but I am second owner. Should I contact BMW to get this "recall" done or is it not a full recall so my car may not need to be done?

Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian,

Because it's not a recall, they won't contact you.

Usually during recalls the car manufacturer contacts the state registry (like the RTA) and gathers all details for current registered models under recall and their owners.

They then send written notification out to the owners, and if no response they send a second letter via registered post.

Since BMW have hidden this away without calling it a 'recall', you can expect none of that to happen.

My assumption is that the dealerships are replacing the tail-lights the next time the car comes in at any dealership, or if owner brings it in to report the problem.

Cheers,

Alex

Zuzu · 08-11-2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by adrian@vishnu

I have a May 08 135I, but I am second owner. Should I contact BMW to get this "recall" done or is it not a full recall so my car may not need to be done?

Cheers,

Adrian

Adrian..Exactly what Alex has mentioned...My car is a May 08 aswell... I contacted the dealer only to be told that it is not a recall but merely a "Campaign"..

Once your car goes back for the next sched service or repair, the lights/HPFP will be upgraded..

BBK · 08-18-2010, 05:07 AM

Had my car booked in today to get the HFPF checked out. Whilst I was dropping it off, the service tech said he would replace the rear brake lights as they had a 'campaign' to do them on this car.

No problems getting the HFPF replaced, although they had none in stock (awaiting 50 of them from Germany) they managed to get one sent from another dealer and will pick car up tomorrow. No problems as they gave me a 320d loaner :-)

sparoz · 08-19-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWRX

I'm curious to know if anyone has noticed a drop in performance (or has dyno charts proving it) after having the HPFP software amendment. Anyone?

The acceleration is no longer as urgent, but it's smoother. I would say there's less lag and it is more responsive to the throttle. I just hold it longer on first before changing to 2nd.

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Originally Posted by BBK

Had my car booked in today to get the HFPF checked out. Whilst I was dropping it off, the service tech said he would replace the rear brake lights as they had a 'campaign' to do them on this car.

No problems getting the HFPF replaced, although they had none in stock (awaiting 50 of them from Germany) they managed to get one sent from another dealer and will pick car up tomorrow. No problems as they gave me a 320d loaner :-)

Any issues with your little bit of extra? Did you take it out?

Sansnoetic · 08-19-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xclandestine35i

Also, power delivery isnt as urgent as it once was since the upgrade. I miss it.

I agree!!! I got my software upgrade last week and I'm noticing a difference...at least in the lower RPM range...

BBK · 08-19-2010, 07:35 PM

Sparoz, was removed but left intake in.

I can't say I have noticed much difference due to the additions I have/had but the service guy said that people are saying there is a difference but a positive one. Another thing which I thought was interesting, is that he admitted that there was a problem with the HPFP's and that a lot were getting replaced...

sparoz · 08-20-2010, 05:44 AM

I think it is not if but when. I am consistently getting long cranks now but I don't think they will do anything until it fails. Funny they said they couldn't see any codes even the engine light was on. However, it only happened once.

takahashi · 08-20-2010, 07:38 AM

Am I the only 135 in Melbourne that has no HFP problems? I still have a clean code and I don't baby it one bit. Once the oil temp start moving I fang it hard to 60kmh.

I will miss the punch off the line if the new flash is going to take that away from me... Then I will need the 1///M

adrian@vishnu · 08-22-2010, 06:38 PM

I have a mid 08 135I and it is still running original HPFP (30,000kms), and goes great. Not sure why some car have more issues than others.

Adrian

Guran · 08-22-2010, 06:57 PM

Had my first scheduled service last week and they did the "rear lights campaign" thing. Apparently it was only a replacement of the seal, not the full light cluster. I've also got it booked in for this week to get the software update to fix the long crank.

Funny thing is that the long cranks only started for me after I began using the car for the daily commute. Never had a problem when I was saving it for weekend fangs.

MikeVictor · 08-22-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by adrian@vishnu

I have a mid 08 135I and it is still running original HPFP (30,000kms), and goes great. Not sure why some car have more issues than others.

Adrian

Mine was built in August 2008, I just ticked over 24,000 on the Odo on Saturday and I've been ok too. It gets worked out properly too, not babied around.

I know it's human nature to overweight bad news, but I still

when I read about people saying their concerned about buying a 35 as a result of this issue given the vocal nature of the people that have the problem. I'm not denying the problem, I'm just saying not all of us have it.

I'm still likely to purchase the extra warranty though when my original one runs out in November next year...

Jeef Beef · 08-22-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Guran

Had my first scheduled service last week and they did the "rear lights campaign" thing. Apparently it was only a replacement of the seal, not the full light cluster. I've also got it booked in for this week to get the software update to fix the long crank.

Funny thing is that the long cranks only started for me after I began using the car for the daily commute. Never had a problem when I was saving it for weekend fangs.

They'll do the full light clusters only if one or both have failed. Otherwise, they simply replace the faulty seals that are the cause of the LED failures.

Be wary that the software update seems like just a 'bandaid' solution to the HPFP problem...you'll hear the car 'priming' the pump quite loudly when you unlock the doors. This will essentially eliminate any long cranks since the system has already pumped fuel for a full 5 second period before you even insert the keyfob.

Seems that our cars really don't like being driven around daily traffic. Fanging it everywhere may be the solution

harpoon · 08-22-2010, 09:57 PM

Yeh I am July 08 i think and had since new. No HPFP problems as yet and I would say my car is driven fairly hard - Like taka said - 0-60/80 at wot fairly regularly.

x5mad · 08-22-2010, 10:36 PM

Cant say i have noticed much of a difference power wise after software updating. The only things I've noticed are 2 new menus in idrive, one is to do with information on the satellite signals and the other is in the CBS menu where you can set a date to remind you of next service? Can't see the point of this menu though when CBS already tells you when.

Another thing i noticed is that fuel consumption is MUCH improved. From 12s down to low 10s/100km.

Funny thing with my hpfp is that it started to fail a few days after i got new software update which was meant to help!

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Zuzu Major General 2816 Rep 7,637 Posts Drives: M2C HS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sydney Australia iTrader: (0)	I gave my dealer a call today, seeing that my car falls within the dateline parrameters and I havent been notified to date. Was informed that its not so much a "recall" but a "Campaign"......Whatever.. So booked the car in for a Oil/filter service next week and the "Campaign" upgrades( taillight seals and HPFP software upgrade )
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08-05-2010, 07:21 AM	#27
m 135 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 289 Posts Drives: Gtr,135i,M235i,XR6 turbo Join Date: May 2009 Location: Perth,Australia. iTrader: (1)	Got me a little worried when there was talk of a decrease in power after the update because i did not know they were doing that in conjuction with the lights repair,but when i saw this thread about the humming i knew they had done one,but i dont feel any change in power delivery....thank god
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08-10-2010, 07:10 PM	#28
xclandestine35i New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	got the call pretty randomly, 2 days ago, replaced both rear lights and HPFP
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08-10-2010, 07:26 PM	#29
xclandestine35i New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Also, power delivery isnt as urgent as it once was since the upgrade. I miss it.
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08-10-2010, 09:15 PM	#30
adrian@vishnu 39 Rep 672 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I have a May 08 135I, but I am second owner. Should I contact BMW to get this "recall" done or is it not a full recall so my car may not need to be done? Cheers, Adrian
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08-18-2010, 05:07 AM	#33
BBK Banned 88 Rep 3,070 Posts Drives: A boring one... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [5.76]	Had my car booked in today to get the HFPF checked out. Whilst I was dropping it off, the service tech said he would replace the rear brake lights as they had a 'campaign' to do them on this car. No problems getting the HFPF replaced, although they had none in stock (awaiting 50 of them from Germany) they managed to get one sent from another dealer and will pick car up tomorrow. No problems as they gave me a 320d loaner :-)
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08-19-2010, 07:35 PM	#36
BBK Banned 88 Rep 3,070 Posts Drives: A boring one... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [5.76]	Sparoz, was removed but left intake in. I can't say I have noticed much difference due to the additions I have/had but the service guy said that people are saying there is a difference but a positive one. Another thing which I thought was interesting, is that he admitted that there was a problem with the HPFP's and that a lot were getting replaced...
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08-20-2010, 05:44 AM	#37
sparoz Brigadier General 191 Rep 4,848 Posts Drives: VO 1///M; Macan Turbo Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast iTrader: (0)	I think it is not if but when. I am consistently getting long cranks now but I don't think they will do anything until it fails. Funny they said they couldn't see any codes even the engine light was on. However, it only happened once. __________________ Macan S Diesel - Carrera White Macan Turbo - White 1///M - Valencia Orange
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08-20-2010, 07:38 AM	#38
takahashi Retired trackie 36 Rep 1,527 Posts Drives: 1///M Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Am I the only 135 in Melbourne that has no HFP problems? I still have a clean code and I don't baby it one bit. Once the oil temp start moving I fang it hard to 60kmh. I will miss the punch off the line if the new flash is going to take that away from me... Then I will need the 1///M __________________ TAKA 一仔BLOGブログ: BMW 1 series M 2011! Delivered 18/11/11.
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08-22-2010, 06:38 PM	#39
adrian@vishnu 39 Rep 672 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I have a mid 08 135I and it is still running original HPFP (30,000kms), and goes great. Not sure why some car have more issues than others. Adrian
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08-22-2010, 06:57 PM	#40
Guran Captain 24 Rep 895 Posts Drives: 08 135i Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wollongong, Australia iTrader: (0)	Had my first scheduled service last week and they did the "rear lights campaign" thing. Apparently it was only a replacement of the seal, not the full light cluster. I've also got it booked in for this week to get the software update to fix the long crank. Funny thing is that the long cranks only started for me after I began using the car for the daily commute. Never had a problem when I was saving it for weekend fangs. __________________ 08 BMW 135i Sport Coupe \| Manual \| Sparkling Graphite \| Coral Red Boston Leather \| 10 Speaker Hi Fi
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08-22-2010, 09:57 PM	#43
harpoon Lieutenant 12 Rep 440 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Syd iTrader: (1)	Yeh I am July 08 i think and had since new. No HPFP problems as yet and I would say my car is driven fairly hard - Like taka said - 0-60/80 at wot fairly regularly. __________________ E92 M3
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08-22-2010, 10:36 PM	#44
x5mad Lieutenant Colonel 352 Rep 1,772 Posts Drives: iX 40 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List bmw [0.00]	Cant say i have noticed much of a difference power wise after software updating. The only things I've noticed are 2 new menus in idrive, one is to do with information on the satellite signals and the other is in the CBS menu where you can set a date to remind you of next service? Can't see the point of this menu though when CBS already tells you when. Another thing i noticed is that fuel consumption is MUCH improved. From 12s down to low 10s/100km. Funny thing with my hpfp is that it started to fail a few days after i got new software update which was meant to help!
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