Motor Trend Buyer's Guide Awards 1 series 2.5 stars?

[adrean8j]

I stopped reading C&D and MT years ago...just look at the covers and move over to Automobile and R&T....less Adverts....if you look it seems that 1/2 of C&D and MT are advertisements and both mags have reports on the same exact subjects each month...bleehhhhhh.

[Monterra]

They all pretty much suck but Automobile is a travel mag dude! I was literally wasting trees having them send me that piece of crap, and so I've done my part

if I was forced to rank the majors:
1. C&D (R&T has been lacking relevant content big time)
2. R&T
3. Autoweak
4. MT
5. Automotravel

[adrean8j]

Hey, hey...I like big pictures on great paper...hence me reading Automobile....I also like reading Sport Compact Car although they lean very heavily towards VW content.

[Monterra]

I think Autoweek has gotten much better- its like bi-weekly now but looks much better and there is more than 1 article worth reading most times.

[xantdieselx]

Originally Posted by Turtle

They really didn't put much into the 1er rating at all. I looked at what else got the same 2.5 and what was rated higher and I am seriously disappointed in MT.

+1

Motor Trend (Except for Ed Loh) are a bunch of tools anyway.

[rodi]

as useless as the wine ratings.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Monterra

Are 335s not experiencing the HPFP issues? I don't know of other "kinks" that would warrant this type of smack down.

If the recall is true then the faulty ball joints putting drivers at risk of death is a pretty substantial kink.

[ChrisK]

Besides the HPFP what else has been a chronic problem on the 1er?

To be honest I don't even consider the HPFP a 1er problem since it's problematic across the different models. (N54 135i/335i/535i)

So what is the biggest quality gripe?? The 3rd brake light falling out? LOL

I'm sorry, but these magazines are full of idiots.

[Monterra]

Originally Posted by Judge

If the recall is true then the faulty ball joints putting drivers at risk of death is a pretty substantial kink.

link please.
HPFP just 1ers or all models with TT motor?

[singular]

Originally Posted by Monterra

link please.
HPFP just 1ers or all models with TT motor?

HPFP is a problem for 335i's as well. A friend of mine with a 2007 335i just had his replaced.

The MT article lumps 3 series with M3's and 5 series with M5's. Your guess on how THAT impacted ratings.

The ball joint "problem" is not real - it was evidently a "practical" joke. Now we need to stomp out the rumors.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=288431&page=3

[Monterra]

Hey I'm not saying the 3 series isn't worthy of its 4 stars M3 included or not. But last year, both 1 and 3 series got 4, both have the TT's HPFP problems and I think reliability issues would impact CRs ratings alot, not so much MT. Mazda Miata- 5 stars? Its a nice little runaround for the money if you can fit it it but c'mon 5 stars? What did they do from last year to this to gain a full star- 3hp and a uglier front fascia, right. Drive before you die(their 5 star description)? That's really pushing it. I think this year's ratings are total nonsense and they've lost pretty much any credibility(wasn't much to start with) I gave them prior to this joke of a publication.

[tm30]

Originally Posted by cagekicker

has to be the reported problems.

I really don't understand why BMW hasn't issued a recall for the HPFP. Even if it's an expensive move to make, I would think that the kind of lawsuit they would face if someone actually lost their life because the engine shut down in the middle lane of a busy expressway would be incentive to be proactive about it.

If that's the message that MT is trying to send - "fix the problems" - it's a good one. BMW can't afford to let the HPFP problems tarnish the mastery they've accomplished in the 1-series.

I'm going to be very interested in what Consumer Reports has to say going forward. They gave the 1-series a score of "97" (out of 100) when they first reviewed it. That's insane.

[Monterra]

I think MT would've mentioned it if that was their reasoning. I'll let you know if/when I get a reply from them.

For CR- it'll just come down whether or not they give it the check mark "recommended" rating or not. 97 will stay as that is based on performance data they gathered.

[thesmokingone]

let me say this: if another car company had put out a car that was faster than the 335 with an equally good motor and bigger breaks, comparable suspension for 5 grand less they would be all over it like "the king is dead" (remember when the g35 came out. for my money this was the right buy and i don't regret it at all.