UPDATES on BMW 1M / M1 news, rumors, and speculation

Kurt_OH · 10-28-2010, 06:46 AM

Are there variations in regulations/specifications between European countries?

as7920 · 10-28-2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by M3Power79

I only have information for our market. Make a little journey and visit to Brussels my friend

We have wonderfull beer over here

Am hoping for June in UK as that's when my lease is up on current car.

Indeed that would be a fine thing to do. Have never been to Belgium and yet it is so easy from here now!

PyratOne · 10-28-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Thanks, I used to work in Germany, and have brewed my own beer for years, so I used to sneak off to Belgium on weekends and really miss being able to get some of the better Trappist beers. Distribution in the US, even on some of the more common Trappist beers like Rochefort, Westmalle and Orval is spotty, and Achelse Kluis and of course, Westvleteren are impossible to track down.

It's nearly time to replace my ten year old M Coupe, so Euro Delivery and a trip through Belgium is called for! Cheers.

Roger that!

1M, Euro delivery, excellent beer, the autobahn, excellent beer, the ring, the moutain passes.

My 1st trip to Germany is coming next summer!

HBspeed · 10-28-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PyratOne

Roger that!

1M, Euro delivery, excellent beer, the autobahn, excellent beer, the ring, the moutain passes.

My 1st trip to Germany is coming next summer!

Same plan here!

The breweries in Germany and Belgium will be

Pol · 10-29-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Power79

Neeje Pol, inclusief btw en natuurlijk zonder BIV

Zou Bornem er eentje als test aanbieden ?

southlight · 10-29-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_OH

Are there variations in regulations/specifications between European countries?

Due to EU type approval, regulations are consistent within the EU. Specifications only vary in a way that certain countries have more equipment standard than others (e.g. leather vs cloth).

Best regards,
south

Kurt_OH · 11-01-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Due to EU type approval, regulations are consistent within the EU. Specifications only vary in a way that certain countries have more equipment standard than others (e.g. leather vs cloth).

Best regards,
south

I agree with others here that I'd like to see a unified world or at least major markets standard for many of these business requirements. I would expect that would reduce costs/prices.

theblackangus · 11-07-2010, 07:48 AM

Anyone have any idea when the next reveal is?

I'm anxious to see more, and hear from Scott if there will or won't be a Monte Carlo Blue offering.

Madozu · 11-07-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theblackangus

Anyone have any idea when the next reveal is?

I'm anxious to see more, and hear from Scott if there will or won't be a Monte Carlo Blue offering.

+1 ... especially the "Montecarlo Blue" offering

as7920 · 11-07-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Madozu

+1 ... especially the "Montecarlo Blue" offering

Monte Carlo blue and orange stitching.

Yuck.

Madozu · 11-07-2010, 11:39 AM

Orange stitching isn't a real problem for me (even in a blue car), but I think if they really want to have some colorful stitching, why not sticking with the M-colors as they did for the M3 streering wheel? :-)

M3 Piotr · 11-09-2010, 01:43 PM

This is excerpt from an email I got from BMW CCA Foundation today.

"As more information on this incredible machine becomes available, it looks as though this 1 will be a real winner. This is the latest information we have on the new 1 Series M Coupé:

•336 hp/332 lb-ft biturbo 3.0 liter, 24v inline 6
•ZF 6 speed manual
•245/35 ZR19 front, 265/35 ZR19 rear
•Wider track (1.2"F, 1.6"R) and lower (0.4")
•M Sport suspension setup with M Drive button
•4-tip exhaust with fast heating catalyst
•0-62 mph - 4.7 sec (est)
•Est. fuel economy - 17/24 mpg (city/hwy)
The suspension, steering and brakes have been engineered to make this 1 a true M, and word has it that the 1 series M is quicker around the Nurburgring than the stock E46 M3."

If this is a repost...I apologize, but I haven't seen this here.

PrimoM3 · 11-09-2010, 02:05 PM

Does anyone know if the 6 speed transmission in the 1M is the unit from the M3 or the same as currently in the 135i? What are the differences? How about clutch and flywheel? Anyone know or have an idea?

BrokenVert · 11-09-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Primo135

Does anyone know if the 6 speed transmission in the 1M is the unit from the M3 or the same as currently in the 135i? What are the differences? How about clutch and flywheel? Anyone know or have an idea?

I thought the rumors were M3 driveline. To me meaning 6-speed and LSD

eugegall · 11-09-2010, 04:12 PM

Im really not happy with the above figures!

When i placed my order i said in my head that for me to actually take delivery it would have to be at least 350hp

SlicktopTTZ · 11-09-2010, 04:15 PM

I will be happy if they just used turbos that aren't TD03s and addressed any high-rpm torque issues. I believe there was improvement to be made to the head, and a more aggressive set of cams would be awesome.

///M1 · 11-09-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by eugegall

Im really not happy with the above figures!

When i placed my order i said in my head that for me to actually take delivery it would have to be at least 350hp

Agreed. You are pretty much talking about getting the BMW power kit and make similar figures. Slap the M3 suspension bits, a wider body, and there you have your M1.

In a way, I appreciate BMW revealing the M1 in the various stages of development (as opposed to doing secret camouflage testing and opting for an all-information release during a major auto show), but the more news comes along with time, the more anti-climactic (and perhaps disappointing given the built up expactations) the actual release is shaping to become.

PrimoM3 · 11-09-2010, 04:22 PM

I agree, it's more of a 135i Clubsport than what we've come to know as an ///M. But, still the most attractive car at its price for me. Unless I can find a CPO ///M3 that has been lovingly maintained for around $45.

spiderz17 · 11-09-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 335i Piotr

•Est. fuel economy - 17/24 mpg (city/hwy)

This is quite a bit lower than a 135, right? If so, wouldn't that indicate a more aggressive gearing ratio, like the gearing from an M3 and not the 135?

ihatepotholes · 11-09-2010, 07:51 PM

how much is this car expected to be?

in the us

Jeff_DML · 11-09-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spiderz17

This is quite a bit lower than a 135, right? If so, wouldn't that indicate a more aggressive gearing ratio, like the gearing from an M3 and not the 135?

I was wondering the same thing, 2011 with the n55 is not available on bmwusa but the 2010 with I think the n54 was rated 18/25 so only 1 MPG difference

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/29828.shtml

spiderz17 · 11-09-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_DML

I was wondering the same thing, 2011 with the n55 is not available on bmwusa but the 2010 with I think the n54 was rated 18/25 so only 1 MPG difference

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/29828.shtml

Oh, I thought it was more than that. So maybe slightly more aggressive gearing, somewhere between the 135 and M3.

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Madozu Private First Class 1 Rep 188 Posts Drives: 1M / M3 E36 3.2 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: In the twisty roads of the Alps iTrader: (0)	Orange stitching isn't a real problem for me (even in a blue car), but I think if they really want to have some colorful stitching, why not sticking with the M-colors as they did for the M3 streering wheel? :-)
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