Couple pics with the KWs installed....

Mark M · 03-01-2009, 08:45 AM

Per my prior thread, Installed the KW V2s the other weekend. Here are a couple quick pics I snapped in the driveway last night. Yes, she is a little dirty and the pics are low resolution.

randomquickness · 03-01-2009, 10:26 AM

looks good, how far did you drop? and I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you have a thing for white bimmers?

M3Newbie88 · 03-01-2009, 12:09 PM

Nice drop.. makes the car look so much better...

135i_TT · 03-01-2009, 01:06 PM

Sweet lookn bimmers!

slog · 03-01-2009, 01:25 PM

How far did you drop it? Looks awkward from some angles

groovyjay · 03-01-2009, 01:59 PM

Looks perfect to me. Can you give out your settings?

mkPOTO · 03-01-2009, 02:01 PM

the stance on your 1 is sick.. looks great

ssabripo · 03-01-2009, 04:08 PM

looks good man....now, just get some spacers and you are golden!

10mm back and 12mm front is the ticket!

Breville · 03-01-2009, 05:07 PM

Looks good!

joeo · 03-01-2009, 10:22 PM

How does it drive? Handle?
What settings did you use?

-Joe

emm3tt · 03-02-2009, 02:39 AM

I had an E36/4 EXACTLY like that.

Mark M · 03-02-2009, 07:05 AM

Thanks for the feedback all!

Suspension drop is about 1.5" front, 1.2" rear.

When I first installed the kit, I had all four shocks set on 7 clicks from full firm. This felt great, much flatter than the OEM setup, but still very compliant for PA's crappy roads. However I have now dialed it firmer, 4 clicks from full firm. This feels really good and sporty, however, it is a bit harsh over potholes.

The KWs do a great job reducing the understeer of this car. The car feels much more solid on turn-in and very balanced now. No where near the understeer she use to have.

joeo · 03-02-2009, 09:20 AM

If you tighten the rear only you will increase oversteer and reduce understeer - so you can adjust it to how you like it.

-Joe
http://www.lovehorsepower.com

Mark M · 03-02-2009, 09:25 AM

Joe, In suspension theory you are correct.

However, this does not mean that everyone with KWs should have their rear shocks set more firm than their front struts.

I am sure KW likely tested the E82 chassis and recognized the understeer issue and worked to minimize it through tuning. Thus my feeling is that the stock KW spring rates and front / rear damper valving is setup to keep understeer minimized without the need to add significantly firmer rear damping.

BlackjackMulligan · 03-02-2009, 10:40 AM

I love those E36/4 M3s

montreal red · 03-02-2009, 10:59 AM

how do your two bimmers compare to each other?

Mark M · 03-02-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montreal red

how do your two bimmers compare to each other?

Montreal Red, check the link below for a brief comparison on the bimmers in the stable.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=12

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Mark M Major 240 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: E30M3 E83X3 E90335D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the feedback all! Suspension drop is about 1.5" front, 1.2" rear. When I first installed the kit, I had all four shocks set on 7 clicks from full firm. This felt great, much flatter than the OEM setup, but still very compliant for PA's crappy roads. However I have now dialed it firmer, 4 clicks from full firm. This feels really good and sporty, however, it is a bit harsh over potholes. The KWs do a great job reducing the understeer of this car. The car feels much more solid on turn-in and very balanced now. No where near the understeer she use to have.
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Mark M Major 240 Rep 1,288 Posts Drives: E30M3 E83X3 E90335D Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA iTrader: (0)	Joe, In suspension theory you are correct. However, this does not mean that everyone with KWs should have their rear shocks set more firm than their front struts. I am sure KW likely tested the E82 chassis and recognized the understeer issue and worked to minimize it through tuning. Thus my feeling is that the stock KW spring rates and front / rear damper valving is setup to keep understeer minimized without the need to add significantly firmer rear damping.
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