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[nobbyv]

I found a bunch of threads with people who are running the DWS and are happy, but I take my car off the road in the winter. The Tire Rack reviews of the DW's looks good, anyone running these? If so, for how many miles, and how are they wearing?

Have these tires on my Saab 9-3, they are extremely comfortable, extremely quiet, the sidewalls are squishy so the steering response is poor, but they offer great dry traction.

[hotbmwfan]

I have these tires (Conti DW) as my summer tire. I'm running 225/255 on the stock 18 inch wheels with Eibach lowering springs and 12/5mm spacers. These tires are so much better than the stock run-flats that its hard to tell its the same car. They are quiet and have excellent wet/dry traction. Best of all they absorb bumps/potholes without the jarring of the run-flats. Some people say that steering response is not that great, but the other aspects of the tire more than make up for this. And they're reasonably priced too!!!!! You can't go wrong with these tires.

[GTO Nate]

Yeah, I really like the 760s and have heard good things, but Tire Rack reviews really have pushed the Conti's. I think you would love either one.

[Gary@TireRack]

The DW is a big-time performer in the max performance category. It ran neck and neck with the best in category in our testing and won a tire shootout in one of the national rags (page 9 for final results,) beating out the PS2 and a host of other big names.

Don't let anyone kid you, the DW is the flag ship tire for the Conti line and it will give any max performance tire all it can hande...and likely a bit more.

[nobbyv]

Originally Posted by Gill@Tirerack.com

The DW is a big-time performer in the max performance category. It ran neck and neck with the best in category in our testing and won a tire shootout in one of the national rags (page 9 for final results,) beating out the PS2 and a host of other big names.

Don't let anyone kid you, the DW is the flag ship tire for the Conti line and it will give any max performance tire all it can hande...and likely a bit more.

Gill,
DW's mounted and balanced; thanks for your help.

Will post impressions once the release agent is burned off.

[thez99]

Originally Posted by maxnix

Wow, better then the Conti Sport 3? Better let Continental know!

I smell another RE760 hullabaloo here.

Let's see what's at the TR site:

Both are available in 225/40-18 in XL load rating and Y speed rating and both at 21 lbs. each, if you pay attention.

For 255/35-18 there is a real problem:

The ContiSport 3 is available in a XL 94 load rating and Y speed rating and 23 lbs. for the attentive. Sehr gut!

But the DW is only available in a 255/35-18 SL load rating of 90 even in a Y speed rating and weighs 23 lbs. Sehr schlect! That would be FAIL for you homies.

Even within a brand or even within a model in that brand there are differences that matter.

Reading a sidewall can be most enlightening. And no, I won't let anyone kid me, thank you!

Whats your point from all that blather?

Ive had the conti dw's on the past 3 weeks, excellent..just excellent. 225/40 front and 255/35 rear, the fronts are XL's but that changes nothing bout performance. They are awesome tires, better perf than stocks, def quieter infact silent, and ALOT more comfy while still handling turns and corners quite well, maybe I dont have any slight humdrum about the steering response because I dont frequently take 90 degree turns at 50+mph. For a DD highway and street, they perform perfectly. If I was a track junky then I might go ahead and buy something different, but im not.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by maxnix

If you do more research, you will understand.

Maybe XL rated on the front will reduce the understeering tendency somewhat.

Oh, you didn't know load factor affected slip angles?

Butt dynamometers are so cool!

Porsche is a picky manufacturer when it comes to tyres. One of the standard factory fitments on a 2010 911 Carrera:

Front - 235/35-ZR19 SL N2 (87Y)
Rear - 295/30-ZR19 XL N2 (100Y)

[thez99]

And..?

[Gary@TireRack]

Originally Posted by nobbyv

Gill,
DW's mounted and balanced; thanks for your help.

Will post impressions once the release agent is burned off.

No problem. Great choice...and I look forward to hearing your impressions.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by nobbyv

Gill,
DW's mounted and balanced; thanks for your help.

Will post impressions once the release agent is burned off.

Do you mean "DWS" all season, or do you mean you went with the "DW" summer tire?

Originally you were asking about the DWS.

Just for reference, the DWS 255/35 has a 90Y SL rating, which has a slightly higher load capacity than the OEM RE040 summer RFT.

It's a perfect replacement for anyone wanting an all season, ultra high performance tire.

Also, the DW in 255/35 has the same 90Y SL rating, again, higher than the RE040 RFT, OEM.
I don't see how that's a "fail" at all.
The Sport 3 has a higher load rating, if your car needs this level, which the 135i does not.
Plus, the wear rating on the Sport 3 is lower at 280, vs 340 for the DW.

BTW, I don't see the RE730 listed on TR, just the RE760 with the same SL rating, except it's a W speed rating.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by thez99

And..?

And..... you missed the discussion in the thread about whether mixing SL and XL rated tyres on the same vehicle is a problem. Obviously Porsche doesn't think so.

[TreDirtyFive]

Super comfy, long lasting, above average grip in dry and wet...This is my 2nd set. First on my audi A3 daily driver and now on my 135i Gunmetal CSLs..I've had Nero's, PS2, etc. and am a frequent track guy. These are my favs!

[Novator]

I have them, replaced them around 14k on my car, now near 28k and doing way better then my old runflats in terms of longevity, wet handling, dry traction, comfort and sound. I have taken them autocrossing with my BMW Power Kit equipped 135i, not as grippy due to the increased power (I powerslide ALOT), but I like the look of them, Continental was the original supplier for a lot of German marques for quite sometime and this tire in particular won Euro Tuner's 2009 Tire Shootout for best overall everything, placing it 1st. They're is still plenty of tire left after quite a few burn/peel outs. Here's some pics of it mounted on my car. The sizes are 225/40/18 and 255/35/18 front to rear respectively. http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384366

[nobbyv]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Originally you were asking about the DWS.

Nope. I said I DIDN'T need the DWS because I take my car off the road in the winter.

I have logged 600 miles on the DW's now and am VERY happy with them. The ride is infinitely better compared to the RFT's. Highway imperfections/craters no longer jolt the car. At the same time, I have noticed no reduced steering feel (once the mold release agent wore off). I may not push as hard as some of you in the corners; my stock RFT's lasted me 30k (I've heard many on here saying ~15k is all they got out of them). And that's w/ the JB+.

Talked my coworker into a set of these as well for his 135i.

[zamboni]

I will order a set when my 269 wheels arrives, for the price it's a pretty good and I can get oout of my Pirelli RFT.

[fboutlaw]

Hey, I swapped the RFT's for these tires. They're great for everyday driving; quiet and compliant.

But, do NOT autox with them. They don't have enough grip in corners and thus, I melted the shit out of the outside treads. Since the rubber compound is made for wear instead of grip they just wore in a way I didn't expect and the rubber didn't rub off as easily as it has on other tires.

[thez99]

One con I will say for these tires is that the tread width is shorter than most tires like say the star-specs, like where on a 8.5" wheel a 225 star spec tire will pretty much line right up tread to edge of wheel, whereas a 225 size of this tire will look a bit stretched because the tread width is shorter. I do believe this is due to the design of the tire and it makes sense but if you are looking at these tires, go with one size higher than you would traditionally go with, otherwise it will look a bit stretched and could give more possibility of curb rash.

[sc135i]

I have not had an opportunity to put many miles on since Friday's install of the Conti DW's. I can say they are EXTREMELY comfortable compared to the OEM Bridgestone runflats. I find myself looking for the bumps which used to slam the suspension, in disbelief at the level of difference.

Went to the 225's in front, and 255's in the rear. I am not a car tuning, wheel swapping, tire changing whiz, so I don't know if this size change will be a problem with a loaded down car or not.

Steering response. This is a tough one. Bear in mind if there is something that needs to be worn off, I sure haven't worn it off yet. OK.. it seems as if the steering is somewhat less precise, and there is less feel. That said, though, the car corners better, with less fanfare, than ever before. The car takes corners and traffic circles in stride with a sort of ho-hum confidence at higher speeds than I had pushed it to before.. all in a sense of this is calm, this is normal, nice day, huh?

OK, so I am not an expert, I really don't know what I am talking about, but I did wear the runflats down to racing slicks in 14k miles, so I must be a sort of spirited driver. These are awesome tires, and just about perfect for a daily driver. Am I used to more feel/feedback? Yes. Will I adjust to these, and have as much fun when it is time to play as I used to? Absolutely. Thanks for the recommendation, Gill.