135i Oil Cooler?

[cracka]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

I just called BMWNA and spoke with a rep who said there's no news of a secondary oil cooler and nobody by the name of Darlene Hawley who works there. I encourage you all to call and find this out for yourselves.

FWIW, "Darlene Hawley" has replied to my OC email queries previously. If you're really concerned & suspicious, I think the more reliable approach will be to look under your hood in ~6 weeks.

[mikeo]

Whaa?? :iono:

[TunedM2C]

I understand but when you have a guy tell you there is no news of a secondary cooler who then proceeds to look this person up in the directory while I'm on the phone with him, you can imagine my reaction. I hope it holds true that we do get the cooler and look forward to confirming it myself in the next several weeks.

[asv]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

I just called BMWNA and spoke with a rep who said there's no news of a secondary oil cooler and nobody by the name of Darlene Hawley who works there. I encourage you all to call and find this out for yourselves.

LOL. I guess someone has hacked the owners circle e-mail system and is responding with bogus answers to customer questions.

[Brandon26pdx]

The best theory now is that any N54 car with the 155mph speed limiter will have the auxilliary oil cooler.

[larryn]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...21&postcount=6
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...78&postcount=4
http://www.bmwauto.net/forums/bmw/p/..._or_9_quarts/3
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=12

There's a TON more BMW board posts regarding Darlene Hawley. Google "Darlene Hawley BMW"

[Templedogg]

You kick a$$ larryn. Nice research work.

[Smokey]

I just called BMW's 800 number and the operator confirmed that if you order the sport pac for the 135i, you get a secondary oil cooler. :headbang:

[ARES45]

This makes me happy about picking that option, and I thought I was probably just getting better seats and a nicer wheel.

[larryn]

Did you all notice the hydraulic reservoir from the Autospies engine bay too?

(to be totally off topic, but cool nonetheless) :smile:

[TunedM2C]

I don't know man....you call them assuming what they're communicating back to you is true but it looks like these reps need more training. Who knows, maybe the guy was new...

[TunedM2C]

BTW, Darlene Hawley says hi!

[larryn]

Originally Posted by Tuned1

BTW, Darlene Hawley says hi!

There's no doubt in my mind that it's the canned name they use for email communication, but it's valid info from BMW nonetheless... It's a fairly common practice.

[clived]

Originally Posted by Templedogg

I thought that would be the case, I am glad someone from BMW has confirmed it now. Awesome!!! Dinan will make good use of that and maybe even make a more aggresive flash for the 135i than they did for the 335i.

I'm not sure it will make that much difference. The 2nd oil cooler won't help with intake temps, which given it's not a 2nd intercooler, are likely to start being the limiting factor if you want to push the turbos harder - or indeed the maximum flow rate of the turbos themselves.

[ARES45]

Originally Posted by clived

I'm not sure it will make that much difference. The 2nd oil cooler won't help with intake temps, which given it's not a 2nd intercooler, are likely to start being the limiting factor if you want to push the turbos harder - or indeed the maximum flow rate of the turbos themselves.

In another thread about dinan, it was said that dinan won't do their reflash on cars without a secondary oil cooler. I think that is why this makes the people who want dinan happy. As for me, I just live where it gets pretty hot an muggy in the summer so that is why I am happy.

[mikeo]

And I live at 7000ft where the turbos have to work harder to build boost up to the 8 lb OE level, more so any aftermarket increase in boost. It was important to me to get that oil cooler.

[WAY]

All this talk about oil cooler makes me wonder about intercooler. WHere is that on the 135i and is there space for installing a larger aftermarket unit?

[larryn]

There's a few FMIC units available for the 335i. I would think that since the 135i uses the same front end underpinnings and motor as the 335 (according to our trusty new technical doc we got the other day), the existing aftermarket intercoolers would work on these cars too...

Check out this thread at e90post for great info about existing forced induction mods available for the 335i right now. There's quite a lot!

[atr_hugo]

WAY - the intercooler is under the chin (front bumper). It's the first in the stack of radiators; intercooler, coolant radiator, oil cooler. Then there is the fabled 'secondary' oil cooler which resides in the right front wheel well and is one reason the 135i does not come with fog lamps.

What I was told in Chicago was that all 135is, regardless of trim level or transmision, come with an oil cooler. The latest info is that there is also a 'secondary' oil cooler on ZSP 135is.

[E82tt6]

Good news!

[ChrisK]

When the ECU upgrade(s) become available (BMW or DINAN), I can always add a second oil cooler if necessary.

Wasn't it only the 335i Autos that really needed the 2nd oil cooler?

[larryn]

Chris, there were both steptronic and 6sp non-modded cars that did the limp mode thang...

I still am not 100% convinced my 6sp/ZSP 135i will have the aux oil cooler (though now I'm a bit more hopeful), but, like you Chris, if I do have issues, BMW will be remedying it, regardless of what options I ordered.