Will current 128i get the turbo 4cyl?

[RizOne]

Will they continue to make the 128i with the NA 6 cyl till body style changes in 2013?

[dicker]

The E82 with not get the N20 engine.

[135IS]

thats unfortunate

[Disco Stu]

This is why I purchased the 2012 128i. Last of a legendary line.

[Top Gon]

All BMWs will be turbo'd by 2013

[FJUNO78]

Originally Posted by Disco Stu

This is why I purchased the 2012 128i. Last of a legendary line.

+1 The silky smooth I6 has proven itself. Let's see how the new four banger holds up.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by FJUNO78

+1 The silky smooth I6 has proven itself. Let's see how the new four banger holds up.

You do realize that BMW knows a thing or two about four cylinder motors, no? Take a look at their headquarters, they're modeled after a four cylinder, not six, not eight, or even ten or twelve, but four. I have two straight sixes but wouldn't hesitate to buy a four from BMW.

[szcyxzh]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

You do realize that BMW knows a thing or two about four cylinder motors, no? Take a look at their headquarters, they're modeled after a four cylinder, not six, not eight, or even ten or twelve, but four. I have two straight sixes but wouldn't hesitate to buy a four from BMW.

well, time has already proven 6 is reliable, no argument of this point. Will see in the next ten years what's 4 going to be.

[sluflyer06]

I don't know why everyone thinks the inline 6 is the essence of a BMW. Yes they've built many amazing I6's but many more 4cyl before that. BMW using a I4 is NOTHING new if anything its more going back to roots than leaving them.

[Disco Stu]

I do miss the low end torque of my GTI's 2.0T sometimes, but you can't beat the natural smoothness of a I6, no matter how many or how big the counterbalancers you put on.

I'm sure the I4T will be a great motor, but I'm a mechanical romantic, I guess.

[scott135i]

The F20 will get the I4 Turbo!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Tom K.]

Originally Posted by sluflyer06

I don't know why everyone thinks the inline 6 is the essence of a BMW. Yes they've built many amazing I6's but many more 4cyl before that. BMW using a I4 is NOTHING new if anything its more going back to roots than leaving them.

Not really. While the first BMW car, the Dixi was a 4, it had an Austin motor and was not designed by BMW.

After building many I6 engines from the 1930's onward, IIRC the first BMW fours came into being for the "New Class" cars some 20 years later.

The issue I have is that after BMW folds it's tent, there will be no more NA inline 6 cylinder automobile engines available for those of us who prefer that configuration.

Tom

[RizOne]

BMW is definitely known for the Inline 6 as much as Porsche is for the Flat 6. They each have made other very good engines in 4, 8, 10, and 12 cylinders. When I think BMW, I think I-6. The I-6 and F-6 are the most inherently balanced engines imo. They sound unique also. I hope BMW has at least one I-6 normally aspirated engine in its lineup. What is Porsche going to have to do, make everything a turbo as well? That would be cool, everyone with a 911 will have a turbo.

[Pangloss]

BMW is an engine manufacturer, first and foremost. It's their history; it's what they do. Why do you think there's a propeller on the front of your car? Let's wait and see how it goes -- the new 4s may be their best engines ever. You never know.

[Impervious]

Originally Posted by Pangloss

Why do you think there's a propeller on the front of your car?

I don't see a propeller on the front of my car... Just the Bavarian flag

[Pangloss]

[ATSR]

Originally Posted by Impervious

I don't see a propeller on the front of my car... Just the Bavarian flag

"The circular blue and white BMW logo or roundel is portrayed by BMW as the movement of an aircraft propeller, to signify the white blades cutting through the blue sky – an interpretation that BMW adopted for convenience in 1929, twelve years after the roundel was created." - Wikipedia

[Simsims]

Originally Posted by Impervious

I don't see a propeller on the front of my car... Just the Bavarian flag

It's a propeller/sky

BMW started with airplanes, if you've done the tour/museum and listened

[doublevanosrc]

Originally Posted by Simsims

It's a propeller/sky

BMW started with airplanes, if you've done the tour/museum and listened

Technically its the Bavarian Flag, recently a BMW spokes person came out and confirmed this after doing a history check.


http://www.logoblog.org/bmw_logo.php

[Pangloss]

It's both.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Tom K.

Not really. While the first BMW car, the Dixi was a 4, it had an Austin motor and was not designed by BMW.

After building many I6 engines from the 1930's onward, IIRC the first BMW fours came into being for the "New Class" cars some 20 years later.

The issue I have is that after BMW folds it's tent, there will be no more NA inline 6 cylinder automobile engines available for those of us who prefer that configuration.

Tom

I'd say that a strong history of four cylinders since the 1960's is probably a safe history with that configuration. Most of the world equates the 3er with four cylinders and has steadily received 3ers and 5ers with a four. There will be no n/a engines of any type by next year at BMW, so it's not just the I6, but the four and eight (and a few twelves) that are changing.

What I find a little ironic is that my turbo six gets worse mileage than my n/a six, has much worse throttle response and still runs out of steam at about the same range, all with only a little more torque and a constant stream of dead HPFP's. Not a huge fan.

As an aside, you mention the "New Class" which was also the first BMW with a Hoffmeister Kink. That's worked out okay for them, maybe the four can stay too?