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08-22-2011, 05:09 PM | #91 |
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youre going to get some "natural" negative camber with a drop either I would not worry about it. BMW oem is very conservative so it won't change the settings much, performance-wise, it might change, but even then, that's subjective. A 5mm spacer is practically nothing. You're at et 40 and et 50 now, and that's what VMR used to sell to the 1-series market anyway. What most of us are more worried about is the tire sizing you have. That's aggressive. But to play it safe, I still suggest negative camber or the easiest solution is to take out the 5mm. BUT it all depends on your drop and your roads. The same set up may work for you but not me and vice versa. a couple degrees will be fine. Don't even think you'll need a kit for that.
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Hell, I even got a "really nice car, i love how it looks" from the semi sexy lil lady working at the shop I was at today. Its personal opinion is what it is and I like em, nor did I spend an arm n a leg on em, so IF they do happen to chip or god forbid crack somewhere down the road, its not near as big of a loss to me. I rather spend more of my money on the tires and the suspension (coming soon) as those are not so much for cosmetics but more for performance and with them, it REALLY is a "you get what u pay for" deal. Oh and btw, had the 5mm's installed on the front, the tires outside edge pokes a tiny bit outside the very outside of the fender, but the outside of the tread still plays inside. I did a bit of mixed driving on the way home and the only time i got a little fender rub was going about 55ish and i hit one of those fairly big "dips", not a bump but a down n up kinda thing, it rubbed a little there, but nowhere else, not over bumps or turns and it only rubs when I turn full tilt which is never necessary anyways, so im pleased bout that. Now when I do eventually go for the PS suspension and m3 bits i MAY have to switch to a 3mm spacer or maybe just remove it altogether then. What dyou guys think? I mean with the m3 front control arms/wishbones, with its neg camber how much farther IN will that likely put my tires, i.e. compared to where im at now where i have bout 5-6mm of space between the tires edge and strut. I figure if I just added the m3 bits now without a drop it would likely be perfect, tires tucked well nuff under the fender but still with atleast 2mm of space from the strut. But lowering it, I dunno, could cause problems unless i switched to a 3 or removed the spacer. Btw how much neg camber does the m3 rear bits add to the rear wheel if any? The veggie group blows, sorry, if it wasnt for the sexy lady theyd be nowhere Quote:
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So is there anyway to tell how much the negative camber from the m3 parts would push the inner tire's edge to the strut? I mean i know obviously that with my current no drop setup without the 5mm if i installed the m3 parts I would be rubbing the strut non-stop, but if i went to a 3mm i wonder if id be ok with the neg camber and still go with a mild drop. I mean the reason why I got the spacers is cuz my shop tech told me that with that setup there was only bout 1mm of space between the tire n strut, so if I were to just drop the suspension and leave the tire that close to the strut i would still def be rubbing the strut, prob not the fender but still the strut. So I can imagine WITH the 5mm spacer and neg camber it should still allow atleast 2mm of space from the strut as well as keep the tread edge well nuff inside the fender from the neg camber with the m3 bits. Really i would just need to work the numbers. And really the main reason for me wanting to swap the springs is not so much for the drop but for the increased rates, the slightly lower center of grav will help but as far as the overall performance, that would be changed more with the shocks and the m3 parts getting rid of that bouncy feeling over fast bumps and stuff like that. I just want my tires to fit when all this is done. If I really have to go to a lower size tire at that point which I sincerely hope not i will likely just say screw it and forgo the drop and keep the stock springs with aftermarket shocks, m3 bits and the tires the way they are. Last edited by thez99; 08-22-2011 at 05:44 PM.. |
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Im glad you are happy with the setup. That is all that matters. The wheels look great and its nice to see 1-Series guys pushing the tires with the 265's on 9.5 +50's. You are the first with the bronze powder coat that iv seen. -Charles@VMRWheels
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#1, what exactly do you mean by needing 5-8-10mm to clear the fenders? Dyou mean size of gap between the fender and the top of the tire? #2, If as they were before the 5mm spacers, the tires were so close to the struts, wouldnt removing the spacers and adding neg camber put the tire's inside edge even closer to the strut and cause more rubbing? Or would it make the wheel/tire's overall edge more in line with the strut seeing as the struts go up and in at a bit of an angle? #3, widebody kit..damn You gots 2 grand for meh? Im still unsure bout fender rolling with this car, I mean i know its pretty much pointless in the rear as #1 its just not needed and #2 the fender really cant be rolled much at all as its more a thick piece of metal with the fender lining attached, whereas the front fenders are thinner without a liner and could atleast allow an additional 5mm maybe on each side by folding the "V" area of the fender edge in. |
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Well sell some more then dammit, I think the satin bronze is a lot more interesting n sexy than just a matte black or something. Of course ive never really been fond at all of black wheels, just doesnt work with me.
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I have 255/35 on 9+50's (advan RZ) and 265/35 on 9+57 (arc 8 with a 5 mil spacer) I'd know man. They both rub the fender liner in the right rear over big bumps, the ARC without the 5 mil do not rub. Once you lower the car you'll see. |
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You shouldn't be worried about the rears at all. When I am addressing your posts I am in fact addressing them solely in regards to the front fitment. Sorry if I didn't make it clear. I would go for one of my stated options while having a 3-5mm spacer on to clear the strut end, but in all honesty... I am running an 18x9 et38 in the front no problems. That's 1-2mm away from the strut. My tires are stretched so that the tire sidewalls don't even come close to the strut at all. Your meatier tires might have some trouble, or it might not. It's not the wheel you need to worry about because I'm proof 18x9 can fit with no spacers. rears you are fine as is.
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Well then why exactly do you have 5mm spacers on your rear wheels??? You dont need those. Tires rubbing when youve done something like that isnt a mystery.
Now if your rubbing the fender LINER on a drop, thats another thing. I mean if your that slammed, sure your gonna hit the liner on big dips specially with speed. But thats not what you orig posted. You just said that 255's on a 9 and 265's on a 9.5 et57 rubbed. Fact is with no drop or a mild drop neither of those fitments would rub at all in the rear, not the fender edge or the liner. But like i said if your slammed that low than yes ull hit the liners, but prob still not the edges which is usually the issue and def the issue we're talking bout in THIS thread. If you dont wanna rub anymore just remove the useless 5mm spacers u have in the rear and ease up on the drop a bit. Im sure you could be dropped even 1-1.5" without having to worry bout liner rub |
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yep. which is why its not his wheel that bothers me at all. more like the fatty tire.
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Don't be. I'm on the real things. They are bland, that's my opinion. I just figured after all of the opinions you've blessed this forum with, I would share some back.
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