Carbotech Performance Brake Pads..Which compounds do you want???

[OAKOS Automotive]

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OAKOS Automotive is a 10 year old performance part retailer that until now has specialized in the Subaru models. We have recently begun to offer parts for some other vehicles. Since I drive a 135i it seemed logical to begin to offer 1-Series parts. We have been working with Danny at Carbotech Brakes for a number of years and we run his pads on our shop cars & personal vehicles over the years and always had good experiances.

We are preparing to make a large stock order with Carbotech and wanted to ask you guys what pad compounds you want us to keep on the shelves.

Here is a bit about each of the compounds available for the OEM 135i brakes...


Carbotech™ Bobcat 1521™: The Carbotech Bobcat 1521™ is our high performance street compound that is our most successful compound. The Bobcat compound is known for its awesome release and modulation, along with unmatched rotor friendliness. Bobcat 1521™ is a Ceramic based friction material offering minimal rotor damage and non corrosive dust. Bobcat 1521™ offers outstanding performance, even when cold, low dusting and low noise with an excellent initial bite. This compound’s virtually perfect linear torque production provides incredible braking force without ABS intervention. Bobcat 1521™ operating range starts out at ambient and goes up to 900°F. Bobcat 1521™ is suitable for ALL street cars. Bobcat 1521™ is NOT recommended for any track use.


Carbotech™ AX6™ (1106™): The AX6™ takes the place of the Panther Plus™ compound that was so successful. AX6™ was specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range (150°F to 1250°F +). Advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial “bite”, high coefficient of friction, and very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. AX6™ offers high fade resistance, rotor friendliness at all temperatures, excellent cold stopping power, and non corrosive dust. As a result, AX6™ is an excellent choice for Autocross & novice track day drivers and beginner high performance driver education (HPDE) drivers on street driven cars using street tires eliminating the need to change brake pads at the track.


Carbotech XP8™ (1108™): A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range (200°F-1350°F+). Carbotech XP8™ is the first of our racing compounds. Outstanding initial bite at race temperatures, high coefficient of friction, excellent modulation and release characteristics. Extremely high fade resistance, very rotor friendly with 100% non-corrosive dust.There are several vehicles that use XP8™ on the street, autocross, and at track day (HPDE) events. Carbotech does NOT recommended XP8™ as a daily driven street pad due to elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech™ XP10™ (1110™): When Carbotech unleashed the XP10™ to the general public, and it was an instant success, gathering multiple regional, divisional, and national championships. The XP10™ is a very high initial bite friction material, with a coefficient of friction and rotor friendliness unmatched in the industry. Fade resistance is in excess of 1650°F.XP10™ still maintains the highly praised release and excellent modulation, rotor friendliness, and 100% non-corrosive dust that have made all Carbotech compounds so successful. XP10™ is not recommended as a daily-driven street pad due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise.


Carbotech™ XP12™ (1112™): The latest iteration of the highly successful XP™ series of compounds with an extremely high initial bite, torque and fade resistance than compound XP10™. XP12™ is a world leading friction compound that is unmatched as a Ceramic racing compound, with a temperature range of 250°F to 2000°F+. The XP12™ still has that excellent Carbotech release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech compounds so successful. The XP12™ is the most rotor aggressive compound Carbotech offers, but compared to the competition the XP12™ is still very rotor friendly and contains 100% non-corrosive dust. XP12™ is recommended only for expert/very advanced drivers. XP12™ is found to be most affective on race cars weighing 2,400lbs or more using R-Compound tires; or street cars weighing 3,200lbs or more for track use only.


Carbotech™ XP16™ (1601™): The XP16™ leads the highly touted XP™ series line of compounds from Carbotech. With an extremely, and we mean extremely high initial bite, torque and fade resistance than compound XP12™. XP16™ is a world leading friction compound that is unmatched as a Ceramic racing compound, with a temperature range of 250°F to 2000°F+. Carbotech XP16™ still has outstanding release and modulation that has made all other Carbotech compounds so successful. The XP16™ is the most rotor aggressive compound Carbotech makes, but compared to it's competition the XP16™ is still very rotor friendly and contains 100% non-corrosive dust. XP16™ is recommended only for expert/very advanced drivers. XP16™ is found to be most affective on race cars weighing 3,000lbs or more using R-Compound tires only.


After we get some feedback from this poll we will place the order and post a new thread with pricing and ordering info.

Please feel free to check out our Web store here: OAKOS Web Site


Clayton Banka
Customer Service Manager
OAKOS Automotive
Clayton@oakos.com
1-866-97-OAKOS
www.oakos.com

[jeremyc74]

AX6 sounds like it would fit my needs pretty well.

[stevenc]

Sounds like a no brainer. Only 2 of the pads are daily drivable and 1 of those pads is not recommended for even occational track use, therefore just about everyone will choose the AX6

[OAKOS Automotive]

For sure Steven, we always stock the Bobcats and AX6 pads for all the vehicles we work with. There are a lot of drivers here on 1-Addicts that spend a fair bit of time on the track and may want a XP8 or even higher compound. We stock all the way up to the XP12 for the Subaru WRX STi and Nissian 350z Track edition & people buy them everyday.

Thanks for voting in the poll and for your feedback!

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[xbook]

AX6 does sounds pretty good...

[frimmelnojerz]

id sure like a nice track pad. i'm not an expert so xp10 sounds ideal. how long could it take to produce and ship out?

[OAKOS Automotive]

My understanding is that the pads are in production now. I would hope to have them on hand and ready to ship out within 2-3 weeks.

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[Templedogg]

Any idea of cost yet?

[WAY]

Is the issue with using the XP8 and XP 10 on the street only dust and noise? If so I would like to have XP10!

[OAKOS Automotive]

Originally Posted by Templedogg

Any idea of cost yet?

Not yet.... Pricing coming soon once we have been invoiced for the order from Carbotech.

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[OAKOS Automotive]

Originally Posted by WAY

Is the issue with using the XP8 and XP 10 on the street only dust and noise? If so I would like to have XP10!

For the most part yes, the dust and noise(squeaking) will be increased as you go up the XP scale. The other issue as you go past the XP8 and higher is that until the pad has some heat in it they will not have good initail grip....does that mean you are going to back out of your driveway and not have brakes at the bottom?? NO! But what is does mean is that until the pads have some heat into them they will not have the exceptional stopping grip the XP series pads are famous for. We have run XP8 pads on our shop WRX and it sees a mix of daily driving to lunch as well as some pretty hard track days.


Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[WAY]

Well Clayton, if that is the case put me down for a set of the XP8 please! Hang on, using your analogy, will I be able to stop at the bottom of my drive way in the morning with the XP10? If the answer is yes, then put me down for those. Also, I need it ASAP!!!!!!! (my existing track pads have worn out and I have 2 track days coming...)

[Impulse]

yes! bring them out

[OAKOS Automotive]

OK everyone, we placed our order with Carbotech on Friday. We have some of each compound on the way. I will make a new post once we receive the pads and have them up on our website to order.


Thanks for all your interest!!!

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[frimmelnojerz]

how long do you suspect?

[OAKOS Automotive]

With the order placed I would hope to see the pads in a few weeks or less. They are in production now, then they have to be packaged, shipped to us and added to our web store.

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[OAKOS Automotive]

Pricing is out.....Pads should be here soon!!!

Front Pads

Rear Pads

You can place a pre-order at the above links and your order will ship as soon as we receive the pads in stock.

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[frimmelnojerz]

1 set = driver and passenger side or just one side?

[OAKOS Automotive]

Hi Justin

One set = entire set (front or rear). Ordering a set will include all the pads for either the front or rear (which ever you order). Please let us know if you have any other questions.


Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

Originally Posted by Frimmelnojerz

1 set = driver and passenger side or just one side?

[frimmelnojerz]

update?

[OAKOS Automotive]

Pads are supposed to ship from Carbotech to us early to mid next week. I hope to have them before the weekend but that's up to the shipping company.

Clayton
OAKOS Automotive

[onetimer]

I have a HPDE November 1 and 2. I hope I can can the pads by then.