How to eliminate wheels rubbing on fender

chesticals · 04-11-2016, 09:05 PM

Hey guys,

Owned my 135 for about a month or two now, absolutely loving it. The only thing I don't love about it is the tire rub.

If i have anyone in the back seat, it rubs on every little dip in the road, and any corner that i take spirited. Even with just me in the car it will rub on medium sized dips in the road, and with a passenger its very noticable.

I have CSL rims on it, 19x10 in the rear, and the rubbing is super annoying.

Im running 265/30/19's on the rear currently, and i have ordered some 245/35/19's that will be going on the car this week. I am wondering, will this stop the rubbing? or atleast help?

I've already rolled the fenders, it didnt help much in the rear, and after rolling it started rubbing in the front? wtf?

Im on stock suspension btw

Any insight is appreciated, thanks.

and dont worry, i will be respraying the front bumper to fix that god awful black plastidip

ShocknAwe · 04-11-2016, 09:12 PM

Need to know full wheel and alignment specs, also if fenders are rolled already. I'd hold off on putting a stretched tire on there as a solution for now though.

chesticals · 04-11-2016, 09:30 PM

Im only worried about the rears, as i mentioned the fenders HAVE been rolled, wheels are 19x10 (not sure of offset) and tires 265/30/19

chesticals · 04-11-2016, 09:32 PM

not sure of alignment, just got the car, its stock M sport suspension, would getting a wheel alignment help? the inner portion of the rears wore significatly more than the middle and outer portions, indicating camber wear or bad toe alignment, and its not very cambered so im thinking it needs the toe re aligned

miro2296 · 04-12-2016, 09:00 AM

do you know where it is rubbing? Most likely on the lining? Your tire choice is important as well. 255/30/19 should be sufficient enough IMO to avoid some rubbing. An alignment wouldn't hurt either.

E82MSport · 04-12-2016, 10:14 AM

What is your wheel offset (ET??). There should be a casting identification on the inside of the wheel on the spoke or near the hub with an ET marking.

chesticals · 04-12-2016, 02:59 PM

Thanks guys, ill take a look at the offset when i get home. And yeah its rubbing right where the liner meets the fender

MightyMouseTech · 04-12-2016, 03:19 PM

Those rear tires look stretched to hell, and will be worse with a 245 on there. The rim actually sticks out past the fender. You are going to be running in circles until you put rims on that fit the car properly.

Eyeman · 04-12-2016, 06:29 PM

You should be able to add some rear camber then you get an alignment. Try to get them to reduce your toe to somewhere between zero and the lowest factory recommended value.

I'd try a 255/30/19 in a small running tire such as a Toyo T1R just to see if that would work. If you still rub, you really need to do the rear brake hub mod that I did, or get different wheels.

Lamar Vannoy · 04-13-2016, 02:26 PM

I run 265/30/19 x 9.5 ET 50 with rolled fenders and no rubbing in rear. 255 is going to be pretty stretched on a 10" wheel and I doubt 245 will work.

MAMSport · 05-04-2016, 08:28 PM

I have a square set up of E46 performance package front wheels (8 x 19"; 47 mm offset) that would seem close to the OE dimension. Tires are 225/35 and 245/35, and they all rub on some conditions (no rear passengers yet, so I don't know how much an effect that will have).

Eyeman, I'd be interested in this rear hub mod you mentioned! I'm not crazy about the concept of rolling the fenders, even a little bit. I love the look of the wheels but don't want to rub off paint or scrape sidewalls!

I'm considering using the style 68 wheels (m3 rears as 1 series fronts and regular 3 series rears on the rear) but am unsure whether the 8 1/2 x 17 would fit properly.

ShocknAwe · 05-14-2016, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMSport

I have a square set up of E46 performance package front wheels (8 x 19"; 47 mm offset) that would seem close to the OE dimension. Tires are 225/35 and 245/35, and they all rub on some conditions (no rear passengers yet, so I don't know how much an effect that will have).

Eyeman, I'd be interested in this rear hub mod you mentioned! I'm not crazy about the concept of rolling the fenders, even a little bit. I love the look of the wheels but don't want to rub off paint or scrape sidewalls!

I'm considering using the style 68 wheels (m3 rears as 1 series fronts and regular 3 series rears on the rear) but am unsure whether the 8 1/2 x 17 would fit properly.

It all comes down to offset. The +47 offset on those wheels you mentioned above should fit. My rears are 19x9 et 48, and I run 265-30-19 tires out back (lowered about 1", but fenders are rolled). The 245/35 tire on the rear has too much sidwall. You should be using a 30 profile tire on the rear with 19" wheels.

MAMSport · 05-18-2016, 08:59 PM

Yes, I looked at Tirerack and saw that the spec should be for 30 series rears. The 35s were on the car at purchase time. I asked about rubbing, and the seller said only rarely. I think that is about accurate, especially if I am alone in the car. But rarely means it still occurs, and that isn't a good thing.

I have spoken with a local P-car shop. They told me there is a limited amount of fender rolling that can be performed, can't guarantee symmetry, can't guarantee no pain cracking, etc., and I understand the disclaimers.

Running 30 series tires isn't a great idea in MA given road conditions, though, so I'm trying to find a good alternative wheel/tire set up. The style 68s may do the trick albeit at 17".

JMendozai · 04-17-2018, 01:29 PM

I'm having the same problem, but running 245/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 in the rear with VMR wheels. Got them rolled yesterday, but the front is still rubbing.

ShocknAwe · 04-17-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JMendozai

I'm having the same problem, but running 245/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 in the rear with VMR wheels. Got them rolled yesterday, but the front is still rubbing.

Trim the tab between the front fender and the bumper, and add some negative camber.

Jace253 · 04-18-2018, 08:17 PM

Will i get rub of i run a 18.8.5 40et on all four corners.. I have 215 40 18 on front and 245 35 18 on rear for tire size.

BimmerAg · 04-19-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JMendozai

I'm having the same problem, but running 245/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 in the rear with VMR wheels. Got them rolled yesterday, but the front is still rubbing.

245/40 is the wrong aspect ratio in the front, and is just over an inch larger in diameter compared to the stock size. 245/35 will fit better, and be closer to the same diameter as the rears.

JMendozai · 04-24-2018, 02:34 PM

Thanks guys for your input, I ended up putting 225s in the front. it eliminated the rubbing, but now have to fix the brackets that hold the front fender, got shaved

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chesticals Private First Class 24 Rep 114 Posts Drives: 08 BMW 135i M-Package Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	How to eliminate wheels rubbing on fender Hey guys, Owned my 135 for about a month or two now, absolutely loving it. The only thing I don't love about it is the tire rub. If i have anyone in the back seat, it rubs on every little dip in the road, and any corner that i take spirited. Even with just me in the car it will rub on medium sized dips in the road, and with a passenger its very noticable. I have CSL rims on it, 19x10 in the rear, and the rubbing is super annoying. Im running 265/30/19's on the rear currently, and i have ordered some 245/35/19's that will be going on the car this week. I am wondering, will this stop the rubbing? or atleast help? I've already rolled the fenders, it didnt help much in the rear, and after rolling it started rubbing in the front? wtf? Im on stock suspension btw Any insight is appreciated, thanks. and dont worry, i will be respraying the front bumper to fix that god awful black plastidip Attached Images
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chesticals Private First Class 24 Rep 114 Posts Drives: 08 BMW 135i M-Package Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	Im only worried about the rears, as i mentioned the fenders HAVE been rolled, wheels are 19x10 (not sure of offset) and tires 265/30/19
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chesticals Private First Class 24 Rep 114 Posts Drives: 08 BMW 135i M-Package Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	not sure of alignment, just got the car, its stock M sport suspension, would getting a wheel alignment help? the inner portion of the rears wore significatly more than the middle and outer portions, indicating camber wear or bad toe alignment, and its not very cambered so im thinking it needs the toe re aligned
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miro2296 Colonel 57 Rep 2,251 Posts Drives: '08 Montego Blue BMW 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Round Rock, TX iTrader: (1)	do you know where it is rubbing? Most likely on the lining? Your tire choice is important as well. 255/30/19 should be sufficient enough IMO to avoid some rubbing. An alignment wouldn't hurt either. __________________ ------------------------------------- BMW 135i/6 Speed/Montego Blue/Formula One Ceramic Tint/JB4 G4/AA Sport Intercooler/19 inch Iconz 880Z(19X8.5 & 19X10)/PSS 225/35 & 265/30/E93 M3 front sway bar/TRW front and rear Control Arms/BMS Drop In Filter/Dinan Exhaust/BlackLines/Upgraded \\\M RSFB
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chesticals Private First Class 24 Rep 114 Posts Drives: 08 BMW 135i M-Package Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: British Columbia iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys, ill take a look at the offset when i get home. And yeah its rubbing right where the liner meets the fender
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MightyMouseTech Major General 4338 Rep 6,196 Posts Drives: 13 135i 6MT LeMans Blue MSport Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	Those rear tires look stretched to hell, and will be worse with a 245 on there. The rim actually sticks out past the fender. You are going to be running in circles until you put rims on that fit the car properly.
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Lamar Vannoy Private 14 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2008 135i, 2016 328d Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (1)	I run 265/30/19 x 9.5 ET 50 with rolled fenders and no rubbing in rear. 255 is going to be pretty stretched on a 10" wheel and I doubt 245 will work.
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MAMSport Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 264 Posts Drives: '13 128i M-Sport coupe Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: North Shore of MA iTrader: (1)	I have a square set up of E46 performance package front wheels (8 x 19"; 47 mm offset) that would seem close to the OE dimension. Tires are 225/35 and 245/35, and they all rub on some conditions (no rear passengers yet, so I don't know how much an effect that will have). Eyeman, I'd be interested in this rear hub mod you mentioned! I'm not crazy about the concept of rolling the fenders, even a little bit. I love the look of the wheels but don't want to rub off paint or scrape sidewalls! I'm considering using the style 68 wheels (m3 rears as 1 series fronts and regular 3 series rears on the rear) but am unsure whether the 8 1/2 x 17 would fit properly.
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MAMSport Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 264 Posts Drives: '13 128i M-Sport coupe Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: North Shore of MA iTrader: (1)	Yes, I looked at Tirerack and saw that the spec should be for 30 series rears. The 35s were on the car at purchase time. I asked about rubbing, and the seller said only rarely. I think that is about accurate, especially if I am alone in the car. But rarely means it still occurs, and that isn't a good thing. I have spoken with a local P-car shop. They told me there is a limited amount of fender rolling that can be performed, can't guarantee symmetry, can't guarantee no pain cracking, etc., and I understand the disclaimers. Running 30 series tires isn't a great idea in MA given road conditions, though, so I'm trying to find a good alternative wheel/tire set up. The style 68s may do the trick albeit at 17".
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JMendozai Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central California iTrader: (0)	I'm having the same problem, but running 245/40/18 in the front and 255/35/18 in the rear with VMR wheels. Got them rolled yesterday, but the front is still rubbing.
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Jace253 New Member 6 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2013 135i alpine white.. Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Tacoma washington iTrader: (0)	Will i get rub of i run a 18.8.5 40et on all four corners.. I have 215 40 18 on front and 245 35 18 on rear for tire size.
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JMendozai Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Central California iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys for your input, I ended up putting 225s in the front. it eliminated the rubbing, but now have to fix the brackets that hold the front fender, got shaved
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