VTT Stage 2+ or GC Lite?

[2008135i]

Anyone running VTT stage 2+ or their GC lite turbos? My turbos are shot, so I might as well upgrade.

I haven't found a lot of information on the GC lite turbos, but they are supposed to spool better than factory and keep power to redline. That said, they are $1000 more than the stage 2+.

Any reason to go with Pure or RB over the VTT's?

[hot-j]

I am looking at the GC lites also, and am very interested in the same.

[titium]

AFAIK gc lites aren't in stock i know someone who's been waiting since November.

wouldn't bother with the s2+, the manifolds on the gc series are a huge improvement not too mention you can swap/upgrade turbos in the future without taking off the manifolds.

I'm also considering gc lites but am waiting for some reviews before i pull the trigger. yet to see anything besides what vtt has posted.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

GC's hands down. The fit like stock and have plenty of power on tap.

[2008135i]

Originally Posted by titium

AFAIK gc lites aren't in stock i know someone who's been waiting since November.

wouldn't bother with the s2+, the manifolds on the gc series are a huge improvement not too mention you can swap/upgrade turbos in the future without taking off the manifolds.

I'm also considering gc lites but am waiting for some reviews before i pull the trigger. yet to see anything besides what vtt has posted.

VTT shows the GC lites in stock, but not the stage 2 or stage 2+'s...

From the dyno graphs I've seen, it looks like the 2+'s hold power up top better, but its soo hard to tell without looking at them side by side.

[ShocknAwe]

If you're going to buy hybrids, buy Pure. VTT is just the first to come out with a cast option. Don't bother with vtt2+. I believe MMP has a cast option, and Frankenturbo will be releasing their cast turbos soon as well.

I haven't seen any 3rd party dyno sheets for VTT GC/GClite yet, while not overwhelmingly worrying, would give me pause.

[hot-j]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

I haven't seen any 3rd party dyno sheets for VTT GC/GClite yet, while not overwhelmingly worrying, would give me pause.

VTT are making lofty claims with the GC Lites which is why our intrest is peaked. Seems most of us are waiting for someone to step up and try them 3rd party.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by hot-j

VTT are making lofty claims with the GC Lites which is why our intrest is peaked. Seems most of us are waiting for someone to step up and try them 3rd party.

The reason everyone is wanting 3rd party confirmation is that the VTT car has some serious fueling modifications (like a 1 off shotgun supplementary HPFP and dual walbro 450 LPFPs), and its unclear what stock or stock+ fueling like most folks have would actually be able to supply safely with their turbos. They also have used TBI and PI fueling though those are easy to turn on and off for testing.

So basically, the claims are lofty, and they probably aren't typical results. Or they could be, but there's no confirmation without their one off fuel system

[2008135i]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

If you're going to buy hybrids, buy Pure. VTT is just the first to come out with a cast option. Don't bother with vtt2+. I believe MMP has a cast option, and Frankenturbo will be releasing their cast turbos soon as well.

I haven't seen any 3rd party dyno sheets for VTT GC/GClite yet, while not overwhelmingly worrying, would give me pause.

Is there a reason to buy Pure over VTT? It seems like the GC lites are capable of more power and cost the same as the Pure option...

Hopefully these GC Lite are good, cause I bought them, haha

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by 2008135i

Is there a reason to buy Pure over VTT? It seems like the GC lites are capable of more power and cost the same as the Pure option...

Hopefully these GC Lite are good, cause I bought them, haha

Different turbo design and frame. Pure are stock frame, GC/GC lite are cast. VTT has a truly terrible reputation when it comes to reliability and customer service. Pure is unbeaten. Hence why people buy Pure. Not to say the GC product isn't good, but there's a substantial dearth of 3rd party information overall about them.

[hot-j]

All I can find is people think he is a dick. Usually the ones whom didn't follow installation procedure. I couldn't care less if he has intolerance for ignorance, because quite frankly, neither do I. All I care about is if his product works, and works as advertised. Just my 2 cents on the subject of his disposition.

If I wanted a stock frame turbo, I'd probably go with RB and a known reliable quantity. Unfortunately I don't.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by hot-j

All I can find is people think he is a dick. Usually the ones whom didn't follow installation procedure. I couldn't care less if he has intolerance for ignorance, because quite frankly, neither do I. All I care about is if his product works, and works as advertised. Just my 2 cents on the subject of his disposition.

If I wanted a stock frame turbo, I'd probably go with RB and a known reliable quantity. Unfortunately I don't.

The same RB that denied issues over smoking and failing brand new turbos for over a year and refused claims for warranty until the supporting forums heated up with negative comments? Or are you referring to a different company. Known reliable quantity. Good one.

There is no proof that VTT GC turbos will last any longer than their previous products, so id wait. Unless you like to gamble with your money. My comments have nothing to do with his disposition (which we agree is garbage), but how he will literally say ANYTHING to get out of admitting its his hardware that failed.

So, again, until 3rd party dyno sheets and logs come out for GC line turbos, no one knows if they work as advertised. VTT seems to be trying to operate more professionally now since Tony hired Chris. So that's promising too.

[hot-j]

I completely agree. I had not heard of the problems with RB. I am a relative newcomer here, so only know what I've read so far.. whatever I'm not going with RB anyways so.... on to someone whom has experienced the GC lites... thats not a vendor please....

[2008135i]

Well at any rate, I bought them, so ill do a full review and hopefully a dyno graph to show how they perform. I did find a 3rd party who installed them and was running just pump gas 93, witch showed good results.

Now you guys got me worried about buying them. From what I've seen, people seem to like his product but not him, haha. They must be ok, as they are carried by **********s, and ECS tuning, witch is good.

[hot-j]

Originally Posted by 2008135i

Well at any rate, I bought them, so ill do a full review and hopefully a dyno graph to show how they perform. I did find a 3rd party who installed them and was running just pump gas 93, witch showed good results.

Now you guys got me worried about buying them. From what I've seen, people seem to like his product but not him, haha. They must be ok, as they are carried by **********s, and ECS tuning, witch is good.

Looking forward to hearing about it. Just to clarify, you have the GC Lites correct?

[2008135i]

Originally Posted by hot-j

Looking forward to hearing about it. Just to clarify, you have the GC Lites correct?

Yes I bought the GC Lites... They haven't shipped yet though.

Not sure if I'm going to run E85 yet, but I will get getting a Fuel-it stage 2, turbo inlets and outlets, and FBO... Probably just run a JB4 and see how it does, and get a dyno tune later.

[hot-j]

How hong have you been waiting?

[2008135i]

Originally Posted by hot-j

How hong have you been waiting?

Ordered them last night, so 22 hours, haha!

[hot-j]

Originally Posted by 2008135i

Ordered them last night, so 22 hours, haha!

Lmao.... Good to know. Let us know how long they take to ship.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by 2008135i

Well at any rate, I bought them, so ill do a full review and hopefully a dyno graph to show how they perform. I did find a 3rd party who installed them and was running just pump gas 93, witch showed good results.

Now you guys got me worried about buying them. From what I've seen, people seem to like his product but not him, haha. They must be ok, as they are carried by **********s, and ECS tuning, witch is good.

Hope your install goes well. Looking forward to your results. Did this third party owner who is using them on 93 have any data that could be shared?

Keep us posted!

[2008135i]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Hope your install goes well. Looking forward to your results. Did this third party owner who is using them on 93 have any data that could be shared?

Keep us posted!

http://www.***********.com/content.p...s-dyno-results

This was the article I read, but I guess its on the GC's and not GC lite's.

Edit: Apparently you cant link to some websites... but fill in: b o o s t a d d I c t where the * are