Who's holding out for the 2009s?

[hector]

premium just reached $3.79 in pa; i'm holding out for a 1 series that gets more than 28mpg highway.

[ScottyGams]

^ keep waiting, the engine software ain't getting changed anytime soon

[hector]

Originally Posted by ScottyGams

^ keep waiting, the engine software ain't getting changed anytime soon

of course, i'm getting at a different engine offering.

[Red135]

Are you implying that you would rather pay over $4 / gal for diesel just for a couple extra mpg?

[3toM]

My current lease isn't done until March, so I'll be looking at an '09.

[3toM]

Originally Posted by Red135

Are you implying that you would rather pay over $4 / gal for diesel just for a couple extra mpg?

I think that is what he means.

[Tom K.]

Originally Posted by hector

premium just reached $3.79 in pa; i'm holding out for a 1 series that gets more than 28mpg highway.

FWIW, my last two BMWs were rated 29~30 highway mpg which equates to about 27~28 using EPA's new methods. I never get less than 28 mpg highway, and have done as well as 33 mpg at speeds up to 75 mpg. (Found a "cheap" station here in MD. yesterday & filled up with 93 oct. @ $3.65.)
Tom

[BMW Dreamer]

Silly. Gas prices will never go much lower ever IMO. I am all for going green, but I don't care if it goes to $5 a gallon. If I get 15 city and 25 highway thats fine. I only drive 12k a year.

[aitsu]

Waiting on 09 here. I had 2 dealers tell me that the 09's should start arriving around October. They said that they will probably start taking orders on them in late July, early August.

I know the M3 is getting a dual clutch DSG style gearbox in 09. I wonder if the 1 series and 3 series will have it as an option.

[xbmx89]

wats the difference on the 09 1 series??

[hedges1]

I'm holding out hope for a few things in 09.

1. Sports package with the option of shadowline delete.
2. 1 or two more color options (a deep metallic red or lehmans blue would be awesome)
3. Perhaps 261's as 135i wheels (long shot)
4. Maybe a Beige 'ette like I saw on a 3 series today or the legit aluminum trim minus the cheesy graphics like they get everywhere else.

[Red135]

IMO, I wouldn't hope for the DCG until 2010.

[Dan203]

Originally Posted by ajax

Waiting on 09 here. I had 2 dealers tell me that the 09's should start arriving around October.

I was told by two dealers that the Evo X would be released in November of 2007. It didn't actually hit the USA until late February and even then only in the GSR trim. The higher end MR still has not been released here in the US. That's what finally pushed me over the edge and caused me to order the 135i instead.

Dan

[hector]

Originally Posted by Red135

Are you implying that you would rather pay over $4 / gal for diesel just for a couple extra mpg?

true, diesel currently cost about 10% more than gas but the 123d gets about 45mpg(a little more than "a couple extra"). i drive >20k mi/yr, so the fuel savings would exceed $1k/yr, more than enough to offset the likely higher initial cost of the diesel model.

[NJKSC27]

my FX35 goes back in october, so i am hoping my gf would want to take a look at the 1er. A G37 & 135i combo for us would be pretty damn sweet!

[Nixon]

I was originally going to hold out until 2009 in hopes of doing a 123d through ED at $1,000 above ED invoice. I was hoping that would be somewhere in the mid 20K range (26-27K?).

But I've pretty much given up hope on the 123d coming in 2009. And just about every car company has announced some plans or another for much more efficient cars being released in the 2010-2012 time frame. There is the Volt, WhiteStar, the I-Miev Sport, Miles, the new Honda dedicated PHEV Hybrid, PHEV Prius, diesel-hybrid Smart, diesel and diesel-hybrid VW/Audi products, twin-charged VW's, diesel Hondas, an electric Lotus mini-SUV, Subaru R1e electric, the list goes on and on.

With an electric car, I will personally be saving much more than just the approx $1,000/year I would save with a 123d over a 135i. I would be saving probably close to $3,000 a year, because I can plug it in at work every day and not spend a penny on gas. For me, buying a $30,000 electric car, and selling it for $18,000 in 4 years would basically mean getting a car for free. The entire 4 years of depreciation would be 100% payed for out of savings on gas.

If BMW waits until after 2010 to bring over the 123d, I'll probably have already bought something else.

[Dan203]

There is always something bigger and better coming. Eventually you just have to suck it up and buy, otherwise you'll be driving an old clunker while you sit around and wait for the next big thing.

Dan

[cagekicker]

i'm definately waiting for the improvements. i never again will buy first year productions for past reasons.