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      11-04-2015, 12:48 AM   #1
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Bmw oil WTF

Was at the dealer and for giggles I asked what a quart of oil would cost. Turns out they are cheaper than Mobil.

BMW synthetic 5w30: 9.99/litre

Mobil1 0w40: 16.99/litre

Has anyone else seen this?
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      11-04-2015, 07:29 AM   #2
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Mobile 1 0w40 is about 24-25 USD for 4.7 L here in the US
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      11-04-2015, 10:06 AM   #3
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Was at the dealer and for giggles I asked what a quart of oil would cost. Turns out they are cheaper than Mobil.

BMW synthetic 5w30: 9.99/litre

Mobil1 0w40: 16.99/litre

Has anyone else seen this?
Seems standard. Mobil 1 0w40 is cheaper though, your price seems high:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mo...l#.VjosfGqFNhE

Currently listed as roughly 12.99/litre. I'm sure you could buy cheaper elsewhere. Also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison....
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      11-04-2015, 10:51 AM   #4
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Seems standard. Mobil 1 0w40 is cheaper though, your price seems high:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mo...l#.VjosfGqFNhE

Currently listed as roughly 12.99/litre. I'm sure you could buy cheaper elsewhere. Also, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison....
It was at a Canadian Tire. I know they are all independently owned but I didn't realize they could set their own prices

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Mobile 1 0w40 is about 24-25 USD for 4.7 L here in the US
Must be nice. Next time I'm down there I will pick up as many as I can bring back. I've never seen the Mobil 0w40 in the big jugs here. ([edit] I've been going to the wrong store.) I've been buying cases for years but from now on I'll probably just buy the BMW oil.

The SA said the BMW oil as full synthetic but it does not say that on the bottle. Is it actually synthetic or am I paying 10$/litre for dino oil?

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      11-04-2015, 10:56 AM   #5
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Just used the product finder and it looks like a lot of stores in calgary have the jug. Just not mine...

Interested to know what people think of the BMW oil. Is it comparable to Mobil or not?
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      11-04-2015, 11:13 AM   #6
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Just used the product finder and it looks like a lot of stores in calgary have the jug. Just not mine...

Interested to know what people think of the BMW oil. Is it comparable to Mobil or not?
Don't have the link handy, but there's tons of discussion on this. The BMW oil is a special blend to get through the long change interval, made by Castrol I think. There's so much discussion on this stuff on the forums that it's close to "religion" levels of argument....

I would look at it this way - BMW tested the car with the oil you can buy from them, they provide you warranty on the car in that state. If you don't have any special conditions that warrant a specific change to the type of oil (ie heavy track days, very dirty/dusty environment, etc), and the BMW oil is as cheap if not cheaper than other brands then I see absolutely no harm in just using the BMW stuff. You could even do your oil changes more frequently to add safety margin....
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      11-04-2015, 11:18 AM   #7
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      11-04-2015, 11:18 AM   #8
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Thanks. I was actually reading a good thread about it here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...&highlight=Oil
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      11-04-2015, 11:41 AM   #9
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Don't have the link handy, but there's tons of discussion on this. The BMW oil is a special blend to get through the long change interval, made by Castrol I think. There's so much discussion on this stuff on the forums that it's close to "religion" levels of argument....

I would look at it this way - BMW tested the car with the oil you can buy from them, they provide you warranty on the car in that state. If you don't have any special conditions that warrant a specific change to the type of oil (ie heavy track days, very dirty/dusty environment, etc), and the BMW oil is as cheap if not cheaper than other brands then I see absolutely no harm in just using the BMW stuff. You could even do your oil changes more frequently to add safety margin....
No longer made by Castrol. All BMW oil is now from Shell.
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It was at a Canadian Tire. I know they are all independently owned but I didn't realize they could set their own prices



Must be nice. Next time I'm down there I will pick up as many as I can bring back. I've never seen the Mobil 0w40 in the big jugs here. ([edit] I've been going to the wrong store.) I've been buying cases for years but from now on I'll probably just buy the BMW oil.

The SA said the BMW oil as full synthetic but it does not say that on the bottle. Is it actually synthetic or am I paying 10$/litre for dino oil?
If it meets the LL-01 standard, it will be a full synthetic.

I just buy my oil (Motul 5W40) on Amazon.com and go and pick it up at a drop center in the US. $166 US for a case of 20L. So $8.30/L.
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If it meets the LL-01 standard, it will be a full synthetic.

I just buy my oil (Motul 5W40) on Amazon.com and go and pick it up at a drop center in the US. $166 US for a case of 20L. So $8.30/L.
That's a damn good idea. I go to Winnipeg every summer which isn't far from Grand Forks.. Researching drop centres now.
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      11-04-2015, 11:52 AM   #12
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Most UPS stores offer this service. I use the UPS store in Ogdensburg, NY, along with everybody else in Ottawa.

Just picked up another case last weekend, along with some Redline gear oil for the rear diff, and a bunch of stuff from ECS.
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      11-04-2015, 12:00 PM   #13
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Another link from these forums:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478344

This link provides a list (albeit a few years old) of approved oils....
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      11-04-2015, 02:26 PM   #14
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If it meets the LL-01 standard, it will be a full synthetic.

I just buy my oil (Motul 5W40) on Amazon.com and go and pick it up at a drop center in the US. $166 US for a case of 20L. So $8.30/L.
"Full" synthetic in the US legal terms, since Castrol won the court case over Mobil, but not necessarily in the German definition.

There are some oils that have a high Group III content and still meet the LL-01 certification, though I'm not sure I would call them "full synthetic". I think some Motul blends use very little to no Group III content and have more Group IV/V content, hence they are usually more expensive.

The best way to tell is to look at the German version/counterpart of the product and see what they are called to determine if they are a "full synthetic" or not. Most companies use the same blend worldwide and just change the marketing of the product by country.
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"Full" synthetic in the US legal terms, since Castrol won the court case over Mobil, but not necessarily in the German definition.

There are some oils that have a high Group III content and still meet the LL-01 certification, though I'm not sure I would call them "full synthetic". I think some Motul blends use very little to no Group III content and have more Group IV/V content, hence they are usually more expensive.

The best way to tell is to look at the German version/counterpart of the product and see what they are called to determine if they are a "full synthetic" or not. Most companies use the same blend worldwide and just change the marketing of the product by country.
Ya, remember all the hub-bub with Mobil and their so called synthetic.

Thanks for additional info.
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