The Drive Behind Pure Driving Pleasure - Technical Information Part 1

auggiem3 · 02-09-2011, 01:25 PM

Does anyone know why the motor reads "powered by bmw m" instead of housing the M badge on the plastic casing?

Grey Dove · 02-09-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by M3Power79

Indeed! Otherwise the total weight would never had been under 1500kg empty. I can't wait until May, i am so exited to collect mine

please put some pics on the forum as soon as you collect it! Guess you will
be one of the first in Belgium you lucky YOU

:
Oh.... one more thing, since you work at a BMW dealership could you see if it's possible to order black instead of chrome lining around the black kidneys?
and i read in another tread that you changed from AW to BSM? How so?

pyrat · 02-09-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by auggiem3

Does anyone know why the motor reads "powered by bmw m" instead of housing the M badge on the plastic casing?

they only put the M badge on "true" M engines. j/k sorry couldn't resist

auggiem3 · 02-09-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pyrat

they only put the M badge on "true" M engines. j/k sorry couldn't resist

In all seriousness, I thought the decision came from the fact that M modified the N54 and didn't build it from scratch like with the I-6 on the e46 M3 or the V8/V10 on the current M cars....but I was afraid of the backlash of suggesting this isn't an M motor.

Is the badge on the X5/X6 M motor?

skyphab · 02-09-2011, 04:50 PM

"Powered by BMW M" is like "HD ready".

The engine from the 1M is not a M-build engine, that's why it says BMW and not M on it.
But it's fine with me, you won't get a M-engine for that money!

gs/e60/1m?: Black kidneys are part of the BMW Performance program and are no option. You have to order them separately.

MyCorvette · 02-09-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skyphab

"Powered by BMW M" is like "HD ready".

The engine from the 1M is not a M-build engine, that's why it says BMW and not M on it.
But it's fine with me, you won't get a M-engine for that money!

gs/e60/1m?: Black kidneys are part of the BMW Performance program and are no option. You have to order them separately.

Correct!

For a small and rush project that even does not have the money/budget to do a new crash test for the carbonfiber roof option (which is the reason why 1M only comes in standard steel roof), what else you could expect they will invest in other more expensive components?

Grey Dove · 02-10-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skyphab

"Powered by BMW M" is like "HD ready".

The engine from the 1M is not a M-build engine, that's why it says BMW and not M on it.
But it's fine with me, you won't get a M-engine for that money!

gs/e60/1m?: Black kidneys are part of the BMW Performance program and are no option. You have to order them separately.

I was referring to the chrome lining around the kidneys

M3Power79 · 02-10-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gs/e60/1m?

please put some pics on the forum as soon as you collect it! Guess you will
be one of the first in Belgium you lucky YOU

:
Oh.... one more thing, since you work at a BMW dealership could you see if it's possible to order black instead of chrome lining around the black kidneys?
and i read in another tread that you changed from AW to BSM? How so?

I'll definitely post some pics as soon as i can. You can order performance kidneys in full black or as we do, we paint them ourselves in the color you like.
It's correct that i changed colour. It sure looks good in AW but there are too many AW 1 series here in Belgium and the glance is not the same of a metalic paint. So i probably take a black one but there is also a chance for VO. My roadtrip to BMW Welt in March will clear things out

M3Power79 · 02-10-2011, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gs/e60/1m?

I was referring to the chrome lining around the kidneys

Not possible to order but perfectly possible by handcraft

Drillslinger · 02-10-2011, 01:43 AM

Can't you just order the Performance kidneys and retrofit?

skyphab · 02-10-2011, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gs/e60/1m?

I was referring to the chrome lining around the kidneys

You mean that one, right? They're one piece!

Drillslinger · 02-10-2011, 04:02 AM

I don't know about the 1 series kidneys but the Performance kidneys I got for my E91 are 2 piece.

Grey Dove · 02-10-2011, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the help everyone! I'll order the perf. ones.

Drillslinger · 02-10-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gs/e60/1m?

Thanks for the help everyone! I'll order the perf. ones.

That's my plan (ASSuming that BMW actually sells me a 1M

)

ES BMW · 02-10-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by skyphab

You mean that one, right? They're one piece!

The 1-series performance grills are two pieces. The outer ring can be removed from the vertical slots. A friend and I noticed this when we were swapping them out on his 135.

Grey Dove · 02-10-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drillslinger

That's my plan (ASSuming that BMW actually sells me a 1M

)

You have my atmost sympathy and I urge you, keep naggin about this injustice SOMEBODY PLEASE SELL THIS MAN A 1M!!!!!!!!!

Jaguar66 · 02-10-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

The precise steering responsiveness typical of M automobiles is assured in the BMW Series 1 M Coupé by the Servotronic speed-dependent hydraulic steering support – this guarantees perfect control and predictability thanks to a constantly exact feeling for the steering angle and precise response in relation to the state of the road. This enables the BMW Series 1 M Coupé to be steered with ultimate precision, something that is sure to being a radiant smile to every drivers’ face.

The high degree of compression also increases the effectiveness. In addition, measures such as brake energy recycling and demand-controlled ancillary units are also used, so that the M engine of the BMW Series 1 M Coupé unites fascinating performance with great efficiency. This is something that will also be important for drivers with a sporting interest - after all fewer pit stops never did anyone any harm.

The first paragraph describes "active steering".

Does the 1M also have regenerative braking, charging the battery?

elitt13 · 02-10-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RobMason

The first paragraph describes "active steering".

Does the 1M also have regenerative braking, charging the battery?

yes the 1M have regenerative braking

skyphab · 02-10-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by My E90

The 1-series performance grills are two pieces. The outer ring can be removed from the vertical slots. A friend and I noticed this when we were swapping them out on his 135.

Didn't know that.
But I'm just referring to the BMW performance pictures of the 1 coupe and they're black there. So I guess, you'll get black inner and outer parts with the performance kidneys:

At least I hope so. Otherwise I'll paint that rubbish chrome black!!

MyCorvette · 02-10-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by auggiem3

In all seriousness, I thought the decision came from the fact that M modified the N54 and didn't build it from scratch like with the I-6 on the e46 M3 or the V8/V10 on the current M cars....but I was afraid of the backlash of suggesting this isn't an M motor.

Is the badge on the X5/X6 M motor?

Here is the photo of the current X5M engine

jeeter · 02-10-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by auggiem3

Does anyone know why the motor reads "powered by bmw m" instead of housing the M badge on the plastic casing?

It could be a preproduction piece that will change. The "Powered by BMW M" looks to be a sticker that fit in the existing groove on the current production cover. It would be easy for BMW to order covers that have the trademark ///M rather than the Roundel to put on the production cars.

We all keep looking at the preproduction cars as production cars and get caught up in the details that might/will change before production starts. The mules that are being shown are really to build up excitement for the fender flairs, the ZCP wheels, the black interior with the orange stitching and the Valencia Orange paint and to tell you the truth, its working for me. I like the fenders, the interior and I really like the VO. I’ll worry about the details like what shocks are used, what the muffler looks like or the type of headlights when the first production cars roll off the line.

jnm · 02-10-2011, 07:38 PM

LOL, who cares what it says on a piece of plastic attached to the top of the engine! As far as I'm concerned it could say 'Powered by Joe' on it, I don't really care, what's written on it won't make the engine any more powerful. What matters is the torque curve, throttle response, eventually the noise it makes and I guess way down the line (but still ahead of what it says on the cover) how much gas it uses.

The engine is fun to look at a couple of times when you first get the car, and you have to look at it when doing maintenance or checking the oil, but otherwise I'd rather spend my time driving the car and you're not looking at the engine when you're driving are you?

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auggiem3 Captain 295 Rep 939 Posts Drives: F87 M2C & E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (1)	Does anyone know why the motor reads "powered by bmw m" instead of housing the M badge on the plastic casing?
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skyphab First Lieutenant 11 Rep 350 Posts Drives: MK5 GTI --> Cayman R (skip 1M) Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Switzerland iTrader: (0)	"Powered by BMW M" is like "HD ready". The engine from the 1M is not a M-build engine, that's why it says BMW and not M on it. But it's fine with me, you won't get a M-engine for that money! gs/e60/1m?: Black kidneys are part of the BMW Performance program and are no option. You have to order them separately. __________________ Last edited by skyphab; 02-09-2011 at 04:56 PM..
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Drillslinger Captain 22 Rep 908 Posts Drives: BSM 1M / R53 / E91 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: No. VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 Series M ... [9.00] 2006 MINI Cooper S [9.60] 2010 328i Wagon [9.60]	Can't you just order the Performance kidneys and retrofit? __________________ *Vorsprung durch Gas Geben!!* 172 of 740
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Grey Dove Major 125 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: Sold for a reptile Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Here & There iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the help everyone! I'll order the perf. ones.
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jnm Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 242 Posts Drives: fast, but could be faster Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	LOL, who cares what it says on a piece of plastic attached to the top of the engine! As far as I'm concerned it could say 'Powered by Joe' on it, I don't really care, what's written on it won't make the engine any more powerful. What matters is the torque curve, throttle response, eventually the noise it makes and I guess way down the line (but still ahead of what it says on the cover) how much gas it uses. The engine is fun to look at a couple of times when you first get the car, and you have to look at it when doing maintenance or checking the oil, but otherwise I'd rather spend my time driving the car and you're not looking at the engine when you're driving are you?
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