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      02-17-2010, 05:55 PM   #67
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      02-17-2010, 05:55 PM   #68
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      02-18-2010, 12:05 PM   #69
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anyone want to split a set?
all i want is 2 4" woofers for the front doors
so we're left with 4 tweeters and 2 woofers
i love my existing Infinity EMIT tweeters no way i'd change those
but i would not mind taking out the Logic 7 speakers i have in the front doors and putting the BSW ones
might even be cheaper to get the logic 7 package
i am sure there are a few people who are only interested in upgrading their front speakers
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      02-18-2010, 01:30 PM   #70
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What's with all the vendor harassment? If you're not interested in BSW's products, let your wallet do the talking and spend your money elsewhere. Maybe their business model doesn't meet your audiophile expectations but...so what? They're certainly not charging premium prices; if the market supports their success, so be it. Personally, I think the concept is interesting and may be looking at a set of their speakers as finances permit.
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      02-18-2010, 07:42 PM   #71
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BSW has been around quite a while and is still in business so must be doing something correctly. I will be purchasing their stage I upgrade as soon as they are in stock. The install video was well done and leaves nothing to my imagination (unlike many written instruction I've received from other vendors).
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      02-18-2010, 08:22 PM   #72
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Let you in on a little secret. Our site updates inventory status 3x daily, and we received a shipment after the last update. Both the Coupe AND the Convertible versions of the 1 Series Stage 1 are now in stock.

I would suggest you order NOW because we are raising the price back to the full price of $589 / $299 tomorrow when the site updates the inventory at 10am.

Hurry!
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      02-18-2010, 09:51 PM   #73
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what's with the 299? Confused.
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      02-18-2010, 09:57 PM   #74
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What is the $ $299 price? Thanks
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      02-18-2010, 09:58 PM   #75
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      02-19-2010, 12:17 AM   #76
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I think the $299 is for the E88 (only 4 front speakers, not 8 front and back as in the E82).
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      02-19-2010, 05:04 PM   #77
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I think the $299 is for the E88 (only 4 front speakers, not 8 front and back as in the E82).
Exactly.
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      02-19-2010, 07:03 PM   #78
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still 419.99 (-;
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      02-20-2010, 01:37 PM   #80
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Thank you SIR! Looks like price didn't get updated so you guys may want to sneak in at this price over the weekend.
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      02-22-2010, 11:53 PM   #81
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Excellent video!
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      02-23-2010, 07:00 PM   #82
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back to 589 - I'm out! If it can be offered at 419 then it should stay that way - just my opinion. I'll wait for another 'sale' I suppose.
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back to 589 - I'm out! If it can be offered at 419 then it should stay that way - just my opinion. I'll wait for another 'sale' I suppose.
We did a pre-order and kept the price at $419 shortly to make up for it being of out stock. To be honest, we are having a lot of trouble keeping products in stock right now due to high demand, and if we discount the product, it will increase the speed at which they are sold, exacerbating the inventory issues we are having.

So, for both BSW and our customers it just doesn't make sense to lower the price right now. We HOPE that as inventory issues resolve we may be able to offer discounts on a more frequent basis, but for now the price is the price. Hope you understand!
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So, for both BSW and our customers it just doesn't make sense to lower the price right now.
This makes no sense. How can it be in the customer's best interest to keep prices HIGH?? If you can not maintain inventory to meet customer demand, the issue is, your supply chain is broke - whether it be your inability to forecast demand, your inability to support inventory investment needed to meet demand, or your supplier's inability to supply to demand.
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This makes no sense. How can it be in the customer's best interest to keep prices HIGH?? If you can not maintain inventory to meet customer demand, the issue is, your supply chain is broke - whether it be your inability to forecast demand, your inability to support inventory investment needed to meet demand, or your supplier's inability to supply to demand.
There are a variety of issues resulting in the supply issues we face, all of which we are working on.

However, in the short term, lowering prices accelerates demand, exacerbating backorder problems. Obviously, those who bought get a better deal, but the end result is that the profit per part is lower for BSW, and that's less money we can invest in additional inventories. And at this point, virtually ALL company profits are being put towards resolving inventory issues and increasing on-hand stock.

In the short term, we need to maintain pricing where it is because it contributes MORE of the required resources to fix these problems. Regardless, while we want to bring pricing down, we think current pricing is a superb value; we just want to make it an even better value.
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Ken, you can talk about broken supply chains, and I understand, but small-volume business combined with offshore manufacturing does NOT equal "just-in-time"-capability. The size of the MOQ and the delay in sea shipments and the impossibility of sales forecasting in a small market make it difficult - I think impossible.

I've been in a lot of these sales forecasting/supply chain meetings with much larger 12V companies, and I'm pretty clear that there is nobody who can forecast sales anywhere near accurately - let alone precisely - in 12V. The best they can do it look at the bigger customer's POs, which still change and which don't reflect sell-through the way you might think they should.

But I agree, if you sell all your inventory at a given price, the market is telling you that that's the right price.

From a planning POV, there is definitely value in eliminating uncertainty and speeding inventory turns. Apparently Micah and Jason have decided that it's worth over $150 to pull some sales forward. This doesn't mean that the speaker s worth any less - remember the definition of value in economics - but it may have something to do with the time value of money.
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Ken, you can talk about broken supply chains, and I understand, but small-volume business combined with offshore manufacturing does NOT equal "just-in-time"-capability. The size of the MOQ and the delay in sea shipments and the impossibility of sales forecasting in a small market make it difficult - I think impossible.

I've been in a lot of these sales forecasting/supply chain meetings with much larger 12V companies, and I'm pretty clear that there is nobody who can forecast sales anywhere near accurately - let alone precisely - in 12V. The best they can do it look at the bigger customer's POs, which still change and which don't reflect sell-through the way you might think they should.
Right -- we're dealing with very long lead times and unpredictable sales patterns, exacerbated by the fact that there has been fallout in the 12V speaker manufacturing world. A lot of factories closed, so while total sales in 12V are way down, manufacturing capacity is even lower. This is has forced a lot of companies to use the remaining factories instead of their previous factories. And if you're doing small run manufacturing like us, you go to the end of the line behind the bigger companies.

There is, however, definitely room for improvement and we are focusing right now on two primary things to improve inventory availability:

1. Increasing available capital so we can simply buy more, have higher priority on the manufacturing totem pole, and keep more on hand. This translates as rolling nearly 100% of what the company earns back into purchasing inventory.

2. Increasing flexibility of existing inventories. Certain parts are shared across multiple cars, but are not inventoried individually, only as part of a complete speaker kit. So, if there are 5 of kit A and 5 of kit B on hand, and they both contain 5 units of part X for 10 total, if we inventoried the individual parts instead of kits we would be able to have, say, 7 of part X on hand to meet demand, freeing up that capital for other inventories. We are moving towards this type of "on-demand" model as we speak.

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But I agree, if you sell all your inventory at a given price, the market is telling you that that's the right price.
Which we continue to do. But, we believe the more we resolve the other issues affecting inventory availability, the more we'll know about where the "right" price really is.

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From a planning POV, there is definitely value in eliminating uncertainty and speeding inventory turns. Apparently Micah and Jason have decided that it's worth over $150 to pull some sales forward. This doesn't mean that the speaker s worth any less - remember the definition of value in economics - but it may have something to do with the time value of money.
Yep, the preorder was simply to generate additional capital for investment into a larger initial quantity, something we knew we'd need.
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There are a variety of issues resulting in the supply issues we face, all of which we are working on.

However, in the short term, lowering prices accelerates demand, exacerbating backorder problems. Obviously, those who bought get a better deal, but the end result is that the profit per part is lower for BSW, and that's less money we can invest in additional inventories. And at this point, virtually ALL company profits are being put towards resolving inventory issues and increasing on-hand stock.

In the short term, we need to maintain pricing where it is because it contributes MORE of the required resources to fix these problems. Regardless, while we want to bring pricing down, we think current pricing is a superb value; we just want to make it an even better value.

OK. From a BSW standpoint, yes, keep the price high, drive demand down, and maximize profit per part. That is your strategy. Accepted.

But, I will say again, it is not in the customer's interests for prices to be kept high.
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