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      10-20-2010, 12:56 PM   #89
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Base seats on M3 are cloth/leather combo, and I don't think any ///M comes with alcantara available from the factory. Alcantara is available through BMW accessories.
Base M3 seats are far and different and pals in comparison with respects to the seats shown by scott's "in depth look" at the cloth seats. which also can can be found on the 125i.

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      10-20-2010, 01:06 PM   #90
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Base M3 seats are far and different with respects to the seats shown by scott's "in depth look" at the cloth seats. which also can can be found on the 125i.
Agreed, definitely. These cloth seats don't look too appetizing, but the statement that "cloth in an M would be atrocious" wasn't the right thing to say. "These cloth seats in an M would be atrocious" is more appropriate.
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      10-20-2010, 01:10 PM   #91
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Aren't ///M needles typically white?

I think they were on my dad's ///M coupe...
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      10-20-2010, 02:41 PM   #92
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Aren't ///M needles typically white?

I think they were on my dad's ///M coupe...
No, traditionally red, unlike non-M's, which are white.
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      10-20-2010, 02:51 PM   #93
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Omg the speedo looks terrible! Ugh, looks like they took the e46 m3 tach and tried to jazz it up but failed horribly. Very uncharacterisitic of an M car. And im pretty sure its production seeing that the rpm x 1000 etc fonts cradle the curves. In any case let's hope this M's motif is "function" over form.
I agree 100%. I like when they gray look from the E46, but the two-tone look is awful.
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      10-20-2010, 03:33 PM   #94
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these pictures are useless... I know scott workes for BM and he's an insider... but what if he's not an insider at BM, he's an insider at BMW blogs and forums giving feedback to BMW... hmmm lol anyways the speedo tells nothing we'll have to wait for the official pictures... as always
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      10-20-2010, 04:36 PM   #95
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The seats are different in the Winding Road pictures just posed than those Scott posted yesterday. They appear to be all cloth, and similar or identical to M3 seats. This is great news if these will be available in the the US.

However I do not understand why Scott would post pictures in a thread titled "In Depth Looks" that contains seats that appear to be vastly different from the seats we are getting based on this newer information.


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      10-20-2010, 05:29 PM   #96
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      10-20-2010, 06:21 PM   #97
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The seats are different in the Winding Road pictures just posed than those Scott posted yesterday. They appear to be all cloth, and similar or identical to M3 seats. This is great news if these will be available in the the US.

However I do not understand why Scott would post pictures in a thread titled "In Depth Looks" that contains seats that appear to be vastly different from the seats we are getting based on this newer information.

[IMG]http://media.windingroad.com/autos_db/galleries/1MCoupe_6_jpg_900x900_q100.jpg[/IMG
[IMG]http://media.windingroad.com/autos_db/galleries/1MCoupe_10_jpg_900x900_q100.jpg[/IMG
These seats are identical to what scott posted yesterday.
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      10-20-2010, 06:35 PM   #98
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These seats are identical to what scott posted yesterday.
Hmm now I'm starting to doubt myself the more I compare. It still appears the seat base side supports are more upright and supporting in the Winding Road photos. Maybe just wishful thinking...
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      10-20-2010, 06:43 PM   #99
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Just in case anybody missed it: The 1M will have M3 seats.


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Just in case anybody missed it: The 1M will have M3 seats.


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I understood that, my only question is if they will be available in all cloth instead of the half cloth / half leather option that is the only cloth option available on the M3 in the US.
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      10-20-2010, 06:50 PM   #102
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I understood that, my only question is if they will be available in all cloth instead of the half cloth / half leather option that is the only cloth option available on the M3 in the US.
My bad, I have to pass on this one.


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      10-20-2010, 06:51 PM   #103
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Hmm now I'm starting to doubt myself the more I compare. It still appears the seat base side supports are more upright and supporting in the Winding Road photos. Maybe just wishful thinking...
they're the same seats. the side bolstering is the same, it just looks different under different angles.

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Just in case anybody missed it: The 1M will have M3 seats.


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I'm not much a fan of the M3 seats. I wish it didn't have the headrest riser and came in an integrated seat. But the material of construction is a faux leather and cloth mix? I'm content with that..wished they used leather/alcantara instead.
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      10-21-2010, 08:49 AM   #104
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No, traditionally red, unlike non-M's, which are white.
Ahhh. I had it backwards. Thanks...
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I'd love an engine that pulled to 7500, super sporty seats, a basic interior, <= 3300lbs, <= $45k, and Euro Delivery.

Even if they bump the redline to 7500 doesn't really mean much. The current iS engine's HP peak is at 5900, so they could bump it to 6400 (where you should shift), and bump the redline (uselessly for performance, handy for marketing, potentially damaging/wearing on engines) to 7500.
If they shift the torque curve forward then the extra rpm isn't useless.
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      10-21-2010, 07:31 PM   #106
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If they shift the torque curve forward then the extra rpm isn't useless.
MAYBE. Right now, if you run your N54 to redline, you're not as fast as someone who shifts earlier. There's no reason to run an N54 beyond 6500 for straight line max acceleration.
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From the pics above I see him in 2nd gear, 50Kph at 3Krpm. My stock N54 does that - I guess the gearing won't change till 3rd and that's where the magic will happen?

The interior is leaving a lot to be desired as I kept thinking that this NEW 1M was going to be some sort of space travel auto considering all the damn hoopla and waiting. Now I'll be surprised if it actually even has a possible car alarm with a chirp.

I think that BMW should have just stayed as a 135i with the Msport package actually meaning these upgrades for a difference in cost of course. This could've saved us all a ton of time. They blew their opportunity to shock the world with a roots car built to kick the shit out of everything else on the road to include the M3 as it's slowly become a yuppie car, but then I guess they'd start buying this one too so...
Anyways, I'm sure I'll still be amazed once it comes out.
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Base M3 seats are far and different and pals in comparison with respects to the seats shown by scott's "in depth look" at the cloth seats. which also can can be found on the 125i.
Just for reference here is a shot from inside my M3 (sorry the steering wheel is probably on the wroing side for you guys) so you can see the seats (these are standard Aus fit, including the Nappa leather which is GORGEOUS)

Also, I haven't seen comments on the fact that the steering wheel looks like another M3 part added to the 1M...

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Alpine,

You are correct in that the steering wheel and seats will probably come from the M3. It seems only the leather and covering is different from most sport packaged BMW's anyway. This is my next question. I know on the M3 forum the bottom of the seats have been discussed many times before.

SCOTT, since the 1M is intended for a younger audience, I think it would be safe to assume that they are less wide in general. Is it possible to get the seat bottoms like the rest of the world, not the fat american version. Alpine, your seat bottoms are far superior than the American version in my opinion.

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      10-22-2010, 08:12 AM   #110
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I really dislike the shifter setup in the M3. I would much rather have the one we have in our 135i M sport. It looks sturdy and substantial. The M3 shifter looks tall, skinny, and frail.
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