275.9 killer wasps

emack · 09-09-2012, 01:34 AM

Dyno printout to follow when I fix my effing scanner........

Props to Pete and the crew at Advan............have never met a nicer more accommodating bloke who runs a team that does sensational work!!!!!!!!

Down Pipes, FMIC and Coilovers to go and I'm done!!!!!!!!!!!!

sbce90 · 09-09-2012, 02:00 AM

276 without dps? Wow petes dyno really is getting happy! Is it just tune so far?

emack · 09-09-2012, 02:09 AM

...........sorry, Akra system with wireless kit, AFE Stage 2 Air Box, EvolveR tune.

Biggest problem now is getting the power to the ground and I'm already running PSS. As with Sparoz, I'm waiting to see what the Ohlins offering is before proceeding with Coilovers.

Agree with all other EvolveR implementers...........what a difference it makes and why didn't BMW deliver it this way??????

BBK · 09-09-2012, 02:26 AM

Struggling... not... to... say... anything....

Zuzu · 09-09-2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sbce90

276 without dps? Wow petes dyno really is getting happy! Is it just tune so far?

Don't forget the 1M's have high flow cats as OEM. Also it's the aggressive Evolve map that Pete uploaded and not the stage 1.
Also note. That all the dyno runs where conducted with the "M" button Off.

Well done Paul. Car sounded awesome on the dyno with the akra evolution at redline

MrBlonde · 09-09-2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by emack

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Biggest problem now is getting the power to the ground and I'm already running PSS.
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Must be awful overpowering the road, just be careful out there man.

Zuzu · 09-09-2012, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzu

Don't forget the 1M's have high flow cats as OEM. Also it's the aggressive Evolve map that Pete uploaded and not the stage 1.
Also note. That all the dyno runs where conducted with the "M" button Off.

Well done Paul. Car sounded awesome on the dyno with the akra evolution at redline

Forgot to mention that the aggressive map was loaded against stage 1 in preperation for catless DP and FMIC install.

Kiwi Peter · 09-09-2012, 03:11 AM

Well Paul you have the most powerful IM that has been on the Advan dyno so far, and that was M off.

Even Joe was there helping to tie this thing down on the dyno

Joe is next with the Cobb lets see what we can do

It must be a rocket on the road Paul, as we struggled to get traction on the dyno
i think there were around 10 other people who saw your car on the dyno that day, i did 4 or 5 runs as the first two just smoked the tyres on the rollers.
these cars are starting to impress the Skyline boys and the golf R lads shame there is only 300 in Aust

There will be the usual non believers

Drawn05 · 09-09-2012, 03:19 AM

Dyno's mean nothing except your 400m dyno.

flinchy · 09-09-2012, 03:33 AM

How can it struggle for traction at 280wkw? I've seen cars dyno 350+ with way cheaper street tyres and not slip.. Is it just the way boost comes on or what?

Kiwi Peter · 09-09-2012, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by flinchy

How can it struggle for traction at 280wkw? I've seen cars dyno 350+ with way cheaper street tyres and not slip.. Is it just the way boost comes on or what?

Don't know it seems that the 1M is more tail happy than the 135 ? i drove this car and it gave me a fright and traction was still on. i don't scare easily

emack · 09-09-2012, 03:51 AM

The design of the car is a little flawed from a traction and handling standpoint, read the latest comparo in Motor magazine to see what they say.

Both Pete and Joe drove the car post tune and will confirm the traction issue.

It ain't no 4wd thats for sure.

MrBlonde · 09-09-2012, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by emack

The design of the car is a little flawed from a traction and handling standpoint, read the latest comparo in Motor magazine to see what they say.

Both Pete and Joe drove the car post tune and will confirm the traction issue.

It ain't no 4wd thats for sure.

This I gotta see for myself!

Zuzu · 09-09-2012, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emack

The design of the car is a little flawed from a traction and handling standpoint, read the latest comparo in Motor magazine to see what they say.

Both Pete and Joe drove the car post tune and will confirm the traction issue.

It ain't no 4wd thats for sure.

I drove a friends 1M last week which has FBO and running Cobb stage 2 map...that also had serious traction issues..Thats with all nannies ON..
Forget about MDM.. thats just damn scary..

MrBlonde · 09-09-2012, 04:05 AM

I've never been scared by any car so far but there's always a first time. My M Coupe stepped out about a foot at the top end (over 140 MPH) with slicks and that did not scare me.

But there's always a first time for anything!

The thing is we are all on our own performance motor vehicle journey, some are scared by a lot less than others at any given point in time. Fear is what keeps us alive and that is a good thing.

sbce90 · 09-09-2012, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzu

Don't forget the 1M's have high flow cats as OEM. Also it's the aggressive Evolve map that Pete uploaded and not the stage 1.
Also note. That all the dyno runs where conducted with the "M" button Off.

Yep makes sense, I remember all the 'M' button fiasco from a while back too.

BBK · 09-09-2012, 04:32 AM

Struggling to see how a 1M with wider, better tyres and LSD can have worse traction than a 135i with same power/torque? They don't have very different power curves to each other. Especially considering the M has taller gear ratios?

Not saying it isn't happening as apparently witnessed by multiple people, just asking how it can happen?

As has already been said, the only dyno that counts is the long back one that goes for 1/4mile...

Zuzu · 09-09-2012, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BBK

Struggling to see how a 1M with wider, better tyres and LSD can have worse traction than a 135i with same power/torque? They don't have very different power curves to each other. Especially considering the M has taller gear ratios?

I think its more to do with the short wheel base and M3 stiffer and tighter rear end suspension/LSD..Which is designed for a longer wheel base E92... Correct me if I am wrong..

What am I saying... I am sure you all will...

Kiwi Peter · 09-09-2012, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBK

Struggling to see how a 1M with wider, better tyres and LSD can have worse traction than a 135i with same power/torque? They don't have very different power curves to each other. Especially considering the M has taller gear ratios?

Not saying it isn't happening as apparently witnessed by multiple people, just asking how it can happen?

As has already been said, the only dyno that counts is the long back one that goes for 1/4mile...

May be you should drive a 1M and see for your self, 400mtrs means nothing if you cant get traction

Kiwi Peter · 09-09-2012, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzu

I think its more to do with the short wheel base and M3 stiffer and tighter rear end suspension/LSD..Which is designed for a longer wheel base E92... Correct me if I am wrong..

What am I saying... I am sure you all will...

Your probably correct Joe
Even with this issue, i still want one even more than before

BBK · 09-09-2012, 04:51 AM

Well that's exactly my point. The 1M is designed to handle better than the 135i. So with all it's 'M'agic parts, it can't get power to the ground as well as a 135i? Makes zero sense to me...

Quote:

400mtrs means nothing if you cant get traction

Dyno figures mean nothing if you can't get it to the ground... At least with 400meters by the end of it you have a trap speed which gives a better indication of real world power.

BBK · 09-09-2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzu

I think its more to do with the short wheel base and M3 stiffer and tighter rear end suspension/LSD..Which is designed for a longer wheel base E92... Correct me if I am wrong..

What am I saying... I am sure you all will...

135i has same short wheel base?

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emack Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 210 Posts Drives: M4F82,Akra/Eventuri/Stage2Tune Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	...........sorry, Akra system with wireless kit, AFE Stage 2 Air Box, EvolveR tune. Biggest problem now is getting the power to the ground and I'm already running PSS. As with Sparoz, I'm waiting to see what the Ohlins offering is before proceeding with Coilovers. Agree with all other EvolveR implementers...........what a difference it makes and why didn't BMW deliver it this way??????
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Kiwi Peter 162 Rep 1,460 Posts Drives: E92 M3 2012 Edition 500 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cambridge, New Zealand iTrader: (0)	1M record holder Well Paul you have the most powerful IM that has been on the Advan dyno so far, and that was M off. Even Joe was there helping to tie this thing down on the dyno Joe is next with the Cobb lets see what we can do It must be a rocket on the road Paul, as we struggled to get traction on the dyno i think there were around 10 other people who saw your car on the dyno that day, i did 4 or 5 runs as the first two just smoked the tyres on the rollers. these cars are starting to impress the Skyline boys and the golf R lads shame there is only 300 in Aust There will be the usual non believers
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emack Second Lieutenant 53 Rep 210 Posts Drives: M4F82,Akra/Eventuri/Stage2Tune Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	The design of the car is a little flawed from a traction and handling standpoint, read the latest comparo in Motor magazine to see what they say. Both Pete and Joe drove the car post tune and will confirm the traction issue. It ain't no 4wd thats for sure.
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BBK Banned 88 Rep 3,070 Posts Drives: A boring one... Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 135i [5.76]	Struggling to see how a 1M with wider, better tyres and LSD can have worse traction than a 135i with same power/torque? They don't have very different power curves to each other. Especially considering the M has taller gear ratios? Not saying it isn't happening as apparently witnessed by multiple people, just asking how it can happen? As has already been said, the only dyno that counts is the long back one that goes for 1/4mile...
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