Where are the 6MT's?

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Uh, no.

I didn't buy my 128i for its gas mileage.

+1

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Uh, no.

I didn't buy my 128i for its gas mileage.

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

+1

There are a lot of people who buy the less powerful version of a car because they don't want the additional horsepower but do want the better gas mileage. That's not saying everybody buys that way, but a lot of people do.

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

There are a lot of people who buy the less powerful version of a car because they don't want the additional horsepower but do want the better gas mileage. That's not saying everybody buys that way, but a lot of people do.

We get like what? 1 Mpg better than 135i. I think most people got 128i because of price....
But others got it for more specific reasons.

And now this has turned to 128 vs 135 thread. Damnit esteban

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

We get like what? 1 Mpg better than 135i. I think most people got 128i because of price....
But others got it for more specific reasons.

And now this has turned to 128 vs 135 thread. Damnit esteban

Relax. I didn't turn it into a 128i vs 135i thread. Just stating my opinion. That's what the forum is for, right? Love your car. I love mine.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

We get like what? 1 Mpg better than 135i. I think most people got 128i because of price....
But others got it for more specific reasons.

And now this has turned to 128 vs 135 thread. Damnit esteban

Remember, OP is the one who compared the 128i to the 135i when he said "more requests are for the 128 than the 135."

[the1andonly]

Buy Mine Damnit! The car is gorgeous! Blonde not included...ha

[bmw1racer]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

We get like what? 1 Mpg better than 135i. I think most people got 128i because of price....
But others got it for more specific reasons.

I bought the 128i because I didn't want the baggage that comes with a turbocharged engine.

Which probably means this might be the last (new) BMW I'll ever buy.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

I bought the 128i because I didn't want the baggage that comes with a turbocharged engine.

There are more costs associated with a turbo, but there are also more smiles per mile.

[Gray_Panther]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

There are more costs associated with a turbo, but there are also more smiles per mile.

Walnut blasting. Hpfp. Turbos shot. Rattles. Low psi. Etc.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gray_Panther

Walnut blasting. Hpfp. Turbos shot. Rattles. Low psi. Etc.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

Relax buddy. Keep your n/a 128i. I'll keep my turbocharged 135i. I'll pay more, and go a lot faster. Everyone's happy.

[BradF]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Remember, OP is the one who compared the 128i to the 135i when he said "more requests are for the 128 than the 135."

Esteban, I wasn't comparing the 128 and 135 in explaining that the dealer was getting more requests for the 128 than the 135. The point the dealer was making at the time (in the context of trying to help me find a vehicle) was that a 135 MT would be an easier find - not because it is a less desirable car, but because there more configured with 6MT than the 128.

It amazes me how much sensitivity permeates these forums when it comes to which model is better, faster, more reliable...

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Relax buddy. Keep your n/a 128i. I'll keep my turbocharged 135i. I'll pay more, and go a lot faster. Everyone's happy.

You can go in a straight line, my car can actually turn.

We can play this game all day, I'll take the car that will actually turn

[128Convertibleguy]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

You can go in a straight line, my car can actually turn.

We can play this game all day, I'll take the car that will actually turn

+1

There is little difference between the (EPA) gas mileage of the 128 and 135. Some of us like the balance of handling and power better. Others don't like turbos, for various reasons.

To the OP. Finding a car that's out of production generally requires compromise. You just have to look at what's available, and decide what the best compromise for you is. It could be a different car.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by BradF

Esteban, I wasn't comparing the 128 and 135 in explaining that the dealer was getting more requests for the 128 than the 135. The point the dealer was making at the time (in the context of trying to help me find a vehicle) was that a 135 MT would be an easier find - not because it is a less desirable car, but because there more configured with 6MT than the 128.

It amazes me how much sensitivity permeates these forums when it comes to which model is better, faster, more reliable...

I agree. I started out merely explaining why I think the 128i sells better than the 135i, and as usual, the 128i guys think they're being attacked and have to fire back. I think they need to have thicker skin. The 135i cost's more for a reason.

[NorthernDancer]

I had to go some 1200 miles south to get mine 3½ years ago because I also wanted Sedona red on my 128 6MT with sport pkg. The cars are out there you just have to keep looking and be ready to jump quickly.

[TwinTurboXI]

Originally Posted by the1andonly

Buy Mine Damnit! The car is gorgeous! Blonde not included...ha

I'm surprised I never see you around. I live right down the road from Wexford.

[the1andonly]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboXI

I'm surprised I never see you around. I live right down the road from Wexford.

Ha yes! Thats exactly where that was taken

[bmw1racer]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

I started out merely explaining why I think the 128i sells better than the 135i, and as usual, the 128i guys think they're being attacked and have to fire back. I think they need to have thicker skin..

That applies both ways.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by bmw1racer

That applies both ways.

I'm not offended, you seem to be.

[128Convertibleguy]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

I'm not offended, you seem to be.

You may not be offended, but you are defensive, and prone to stating generalizations that don't apply to everyone as universal truths. "128 owners are looking for better gas mileage". No, most of us are not. "More smiles per mile". No, I drove a 135 and a 128, bought the 128, cost was not an issue. I liked the 128 better, and smile more driving it than I would a 135, hard as that may be for you to understand. "135s cost more than 128s for a reason". Not one that's applicable to me.

Some guys think the more powerful car is better. What you need to realize is, some guys don't. This is not universal truth here, it's taste.

In my case, riding motorcycles and having raced wheel to wheel affects that taste. A 135 is hardly a speed thrill for me. YMMV.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by 128Convertibleguy

You may not be offended, but you are defensive, and prone to stating generalizations that don't apply to everyone as universal truths. "128 owners are looking for better gas mileage". No, most of us are not. "More smiles per mile". No, I drove a 135 and a 128, bought the 128, cost was not an issue. I liked the 128 better, and smile more driving it than I would a 135, hard as that may be for you to understand. "135s cost more than 128s for a reason". Not one that's applicable to me.

Some guys think the more powerful car is better. What you need to realize is, some guys don't. This is not universal truth here, it's taste.

In my case, riding motorcycles and having raced wheel to wheel affects that taste. A 135 is hardly a speed thrill for me. YMMV.

Wow! Now I'm offended.

[BradF]

Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

The 135i cost's more for a reason.

What reason would that be? Is it a better car?

No offense Esteban, but you seem to suffer from the misplaced notion that everyone must always buy the most expensive car they possibly can because a higher price tag always equates to a better, faster, more elite vehicle and folks that have less expensive models only have them because either they couldn't afford the car with a larger number on the back and/or they don't care about performance. This false elitism based on conspicuous consumption is the only reason I hate driving a BMW - attitudes like this are the source of the "pricks on the inside" jokes and the lazy frat boy stigma that BMW is saddled with.

I got over that the first time I drove an e36 and quickly dumped my Jetta after graduate school; that was 20 years ago and I've enjoyed a long line of BMW's ever since because they are fantastic cars - stigma and all.

I want a 128 because I've done my homework. Many highly credible, established automotive journalists and BMW enthusiasts (including myself) think that the 128i with the MT is the last BMW configured in the way that a traditional BMW should be: smaller size, RWD, NA-6 engine, manual.

It's a given that the 135i is faster - forced induction tends to do that. But that doesn't make it a better car.