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      05-31-2012, 01:35 PM   #111
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When slowing down towards walking pace in 1st gear (for example cruising in a parking lot on the lookout for a spot), you can release all pedals without the risk of stalling the engine despite still being in first gear (instead of neutral) and not pushing the clutch. In most cars with manual transmission revs will continue to decrease until the point of engine stall, which is avoided by timely pushing the clutch or putting the gear in neutral.

Not so with the 1M: apparently the engine is programmed to constantly keep up the revs at a minimum level of 700rpm in 1st gear during movement and maintain the constant cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph, as long as you don't interfere the movement by touching any pedal.

Discovered this because I wanted to find out at what rpm the 1M engine would stall in first gear. To my suprise it did not stall. So I circled a couple of tours in a parking lot, letting it slow down on the straights to the automatic cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph. It is as if you set cruise control at that low speed (which is impossible because inactive under 20mph or 30kph). I guess it only works on flat surfaces in 1st gear (did not test how it reacts on uphill slopes or in 2nd gear).

Try it if you don't believe me.
I don't think that is necessarily a feature specifically put in by BMW. Nearly all manual transmission cars can do this in 1st gear. Cars with more torque off-idle can do it in higher gears as well.
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      05-31-2012, 01:45 PM   #112
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Yes, did this with my very first car, a 97 Nissan Sentra SE. Not exactly a stallion with its 115hp! I could also peel out in 4th gear! That car took a beating in Santa Rosa, CA...

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I don't think that is necessarily a feature specifically put in by BMW. Nearly all manual transmission cars can do this in 1st gear. Cars with more torque off-idle can do it in higher gears as well.
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      05-31-2012, 08:46 PM   #113
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When slowing down towards walking pace in 1st gear (for example cruising in a parking lot on the lookout for a spot), you can release all pedals without the risk of stalling the engine despite still being in first gear (instead of neutral) and not pushing the clutch. In most cars with manual transmission revs will continue to decrease until the point of engine stall, which is avoided by timely pushing the clutch or putting the gear in neutral.

Not so with the 1M: apparently the engine is programmed to constantly keep up the revs at a minimum level of 700rpm in 1st gear during movement and maintain the constant cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph, as long as you don't interfere the movement by touching any pedal.

Discovered this because I wanted to find out at what rpm the 1M engine would stall in first gear. To my suprise it did not stall. So I circled a couple of tours in a parking lot, letting it slow down on the straights to the automatic cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph. It is as if you set cruise control at that low speed (which is impossible because inactive under 20mph or 30kph). I guess it only works on flat surfaces in 1st gear (did not test how it reacts on uphill slopes or in 2nd gear).

Try it if you don't believe me.
Yep, have found this most useful in my office carpark which has 5000 speedbumps. Like the exhaust notes at this low rev too.

Great initiative btw, this thread
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      05-31-2012, 09:03 PM   #114
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When slowing down towards walking pace in 1st gear (for example cruising in a parking lot on the lookout for a spot), you can release all pedals without the risk of stalling the engine despite still being in first gear (instead of neutral) and not pushing the clutch. In most cars with manual transmission revs will continue to decrease until the point of engine stall, which is avoided by timely pushing the clutch or putting the gear in neutral.

Not so with the 1M: apparently the engine is programmed to constantly keep up the revs at a minimum level of 700rpm in 1st gear during movement and maintain the constant cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph, as long as you don't interfere the movement by touching any pedal.

Discovered this because I wanted to find out at what rpm the 1M engine would stall in first gear. To my suprise it did not stall. So I circled a couple of tours in a parking lot, letting it slow down on the straights to the automatic cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph. It is as if you set cruise control at that low speed (which is impossible because inactive under 20mph or 30kph). I guess it only works on flat surfaces in 1st gear (did not test how it reacts on uphill slopes or in 2nd gear).

Try it if you don't believe me.
That is not a 1M gem.
That's how it is with all BMW I've owned.
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      05-31-2012, 09:15 PM   #115
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      05-31-2012, 09:22 PM   #116
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That is not a 1M gem.
That's how it is with all BMW I've owned.
The thing I've found with this thread and this 1M forum general is ... there's always someone wants the last word, someone who thinks he is more knowledgeable or more correct, someone who just want to put somebody else down etc etc.

Who gives a toss how many bimmers we have owned or driven or whether a simple little feature have existed for 100 years or found in 50 other cars, this is Artemis saying he's enjoying his 1M for these features.

That's all it matters ffs.
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      05-31-2012, 10:30 PM   #117
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The thing I've found with this thread and this 1M forum general is ... there's always someone wants the last word, someone who thinks he is more knowledgeable or more correct, someone who just want to put somebody else down etc etc.

Who gives a toss how many bimmers we have owned or driven or whether a simple little feature have existed for 100 years or found in 50 other cars, this is Artemis saying he's enjoying his 1M for these features.

That's all it matters ffs.
And that's how some of us learn it, like I did, despite the fact that I owned BMWs before. So it is useful anyway.
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      06-01-2012, 02:57 AM   #118
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I guess it only works on flat surfaces in 1st gear (did not test how it reacts on uphill slopes or in 2nd gear).
Tested. Works also on bumps and uphill slopes.

The fact that I did not know despite more than 20 years of driving manuals says something about caring for the car: avoiding to stall the engine. So, I guess I pushed the clutch thousands of times while it was unnecessary (especially queuing in traffic, parking lots, etc.). When you learn to drive a car it's one of the things they won't tell you. Stalling the engine is a bit embarrassing.

I ain't the only one who was not aware, for sure.
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      06-01-2012, 04:26 AM   #119
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Tested. Works also on bumps and uphill slopes.

The fact that I did not know despite more than 20 years of driving manuals says something about caring for the car: avoiding to stall the engine. So, I guess I pushed the clutch thousands of times while it was unnecessary (especially queuing in traffic, parking lots, etc.). When you learn to drive a car it's one of the things they won't tell you. Stalling the engine is a bit embarrassing.

I ain't the only one who was not aware, for sure.

Does it work in reverse try it out in a number of situations (up a hill, over speed bumps, around a roundabout etc)
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      06-01-2012, 07:03 AM   #120
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Does it work in reverse try it out in a number of situations (up a hill, over speed bumps, around a roundabout etc)
Nah, won't try. Fear of unexpected side-effects.

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      06-01-2012, 08:18 AM   #121
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we don't want something like that happening......
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      06-01-2012, 04:26 PM   #122
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The thing I've found with this thread and this 1M forum general is ... there's always someone wants the last word, someone who thinks he is more knowledgeable or more correct, someone who just want to put somebody else down etc etc.

Who gives a toss how many bimmers we have owned or driven or whether a simple little feature have existed for 100 years or found in 50 other cars, this is Artemis saying he's enjoying his 1M for these features.

That's all it matters ffs.
Has nothing to do with having the last word. Just correcting/adding information. Why so defensive?
Go make a new thread to tell the world how much you enjoy your new bimmer. Who gives a toss?
If that was the case, the title is misleading at best.
You want me to pollute this thread with every single little thing I find amusing in my bimmer?
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Go make a new thread to tell the world how much you enjoy your new bimmer. Who gives a toss?
You want me to pollute this thread with every single little thing I find amusing in my bimmer?
I don't think that's the intent of the OP.
: tried but don't understand your words in the context of what I have said.

Nonetheless just chill, wasn't and never intended to be a personal attack on you mate. Reading the thread, I used the word 'we' and not 'you'. My bad if it rubbed the wrong way.
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: tried but don't understand your words in the context of what I have said.

Nonetheless just chill, wasn't and never intended to be a personal attack on you mate. Reading the thread, I used the word 'we' and not 'you'. My bad if it rubbed the wrong way.
OK. You have the last words.
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      06-05-2012, 06:14 PM   #125
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Hi all,

I live in Houston and find the Parked Car vent one of the coolest hidden gems. It circulates the air in the car for 30 mins to help keep the interior cooler. This might be on other models, not sure as this is my first Bimmer. Here is a quick reference on how to get to it and set it with the manual page numbers.

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Set the time you estimate being back at the car and cheek the box
Check activate parked car vent
Pages 109-110 in US manual.

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Hi all,

I live in Houston and find the Parked Car vent one of the coolest hidden gems. It circulates the air in the car for 30 mins to help keep the interior cooler. This might be on other models, not sure as this is my first Bimmer. Here is a quick reference on how to get to it and set it with the manual page numbers.

Menu
Settings
Climate
Set the time you estimate being back at the car and cheek the box
Check activate parked car vent
Pages 109-110 in US manual.

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Cool (in both senses of the word!). Do you have any idea how you can make it in cars without navigation and i-drive? Or can you make it?
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      06-05-2012, 08:34 PM   #127
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I ain't the only one who was not aware, for sure.
Great find mate.. I have owned beemers for tha past 25 odd years and never noticed either..
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      06-06-2012, 10:00 AM   #128
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Cool (in both senses of the word!). Do you have any idea how you can make it in cars without navigation and i-drive? Or can you make it?
To the best of my knowledge and what I can find in the manual this function needs to be accessed by i-drive.
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Hi all,

I live in Houston and find the Parked Car vent one of the coolest hidden gems. It circulates the air in the car for 30 mins to help keep the interior cooler. This might be on other models, not sure as this is my first Bimmer. Here is a quick reference on how to get to it and set it with the manual page numbers.

Menu
Settings
Climate
Set the time you estimate being back at the car and cheek the box
Check activate parked car vent
Pages 109-110 in US manual.

Marc

I seen that in settings and never got about to reading what it all meant, and then forgot about it, so thanks, no need to read the manual, but saying that I live in the UK so I don't think I will ever require that function lol but good to know......
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I live in Houston and find the Parked Car vent one of the coolest hidden gems. It circulates the air in the car for 30 mins to help keep the interior cooler. This might be on other models, not sure as this is my first Bimmer.
When I took delivery of my 1M the dealership showed me that option too, but told me to be cautious with the use of it, because it inevitably drains the battery (engine is shut down, so no recharging). Personally I never used it.
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[...] apparently the engine is programmed to constantly keep up the revs at a minimum level of 700rpm in 1st gear during movement and maintain the constant cruising speed of 5mph or 9kph, as long as you don't interfere the movement by touching any pedal. [...]
Here's the constant speed indicated by the OBC during cruising without using pedals:
  • 1st gear cruising = 5mph or 9kph (appropriate speed for slow queuing in rush hour traffic);
  • 2nd gear cruising = 9mph or 15kph (appropriate speed for checking out available parking spots);
  • 3nd gear cruising = 13mph or 21kph (do mind that the engine does not like this);
  • 4th-5th-6th gear cruising = nah, won't try that.
And to negotiate a sharp corner during the cruising, don't brake but just push the clutch + release after the corner to let the cruising automatically resume (+ some acceleration if things go to slow to your liking).
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