Dealer Fees

[Brandon26pdx]

Originally Posted by ARES45

Straight from the horses mouth:

"The $399 in question was included in your total price and is our Delivery Fee. It is collected on each and every retail unit we deliver through this facility whether leased or purchased. Paragraph 3 is on the LOOOONG one you get when you come into the office with me! I disclose it during the final contracting. You are good to go at $43,261.36."

This is a rambling, roundabout, bogus non-answer. The kind of answer polititians like to fire off.

I personally would not be dealing with someone who has this much trouble with the English language, but it's your money and your deal.

[colonel1961]

I ordered mine before the convertible was priced. The dealer (a friend) said '...not a penny over MSRP.' - which is fine with me.

I am looking on my Order Confirmation and all the prices are marked 'USD Blocked', obviously, but there is a 'Price Disclaimer' that says 'Total MSRP excludes destination charge, all taxes, title/documentary fees, registration, tags, BMW center preparation charges, BMW center installed options, insurance, certificate of compliance or non-compliance fees, and finance charges. Prices vary by BMW center.'

So, $399 might be a heck of a deal...

[Genericuser1]

In MD there is usually a $99 doc fee but other than that you shouldn't have anything else on your car besides taxes (which can vary, tire tax, etc depending on your state).

Dealers are already making 2+k on MSRP no reason to gouge anymore that that IMO.

[NJKSC27]

i assume this is just some charge the dealer is choosing to charge

[Gary@TireRack]

One dealer quoted me a $149 doc. fee. The dealer I ordered through has no doc. fee. It's all about the dealer if you ask me.

[john970]

Is their a window etching fee? Friend just bought a subaru and had to pay a fee for etching the vin on all windows here in colorado.

[NJKSC27]

Originally Posted by john970

Is their a window etching fee? Friend just bought a subaru and had to pay a fee for etching the vin on all windows here in colorado.

hahahah, the old window etching fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i used to love that when i sold cars

[Khobin~]

Originally Posted by NJKSC27

hahahah, the old window etching fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i used to love that when i sold cars

yeah that's probably one of the biggest scams ever...

They etch every car, and the fee is to "register" it...well if it really does "deter" theives, how are they going to know if I registered it or not?...soooo, might as well save the fee and it should still be a deterent...:wink::biggrin:

[hector]

Originally Posted by Khobin~

Could be an admin fee...

Here we get msrp + freight/pdi ($1995)+ admin fee($300 or 399) + tire levy ($16) + A/C tax ($100) + gst (5% of the above, minus the $116 of tax)

so you can basically tack on about 5 g's to the msrp.

but you get "free" healthcare.

[Khobin~]

Originally Posted by hector

but you get "free" healthcare.

for most things yes...there is that...

[ARES45]

They are making 4k on my car by selling msrp with the options I got. Well closer to 3k when you take into consideration the 775 delivery charge.

[ARES45]

They informed me tonight that it was a documentation fee and there was nothing they could do about it. I will stay with the dealer because the car is almost built and exactly how I wanted it.

[PB07NOVA]

A $399.00 doc is fine (a bit high, but fine and apparently within your state's guidelines), so you're all set! As long as it's not $399 on top of another doc fee, it's not a problem.

[ScullyD]

Want to talk about BS fees, in NJ we have to pay a 0.04% luxury tax on top of the sales tax any car that is 45,000 or more. So, i optioned my 1 out to where i wanted it, checks in at 45,210, so I have to pay it. That is garbage.

[john970]

Originally Posted by Khobin~

yeah that's probably one of the biggest scams ever...

They etch every car, and the fee is to "register" it...well if it really does "deter" theives, how are they going to know if I registered it or not?...soooo, might as well save the fee and it should still be a deterent...:wink::biggrin:

Is this true? If so I am going to raise hell at the dealership.

[atr_hugo]

Originally Posted by john970

Is their a window etching fee? Friend just bought a subaru and had to pay a fee for etching the vin on all windows here in colorado.

Tell them you didn't ask for it and they'll have to replace all the glass. :biggrin:

[Khobin~]

Originally Posted by john970

Is this true? If so I am going to raise hell at the dealership.

in a word: YES

In my experience it always comes up when I'm in the finance office doing the paperwork, and I simply say "no thanks". Then they try to convince me otherwise, but i continue to refuse to pay it, and in end the I don't...the etching is still on the windows, but it's just not registered with the company. If it was a case of them asking me if I wanted it first, me saying yes, and then later refusing to pay for it, then it might be bit more of a fight. But like I said, around here it seems most dealers automatically put it on all the cars and try stick you with it.

On a side note, my wife used to do dealer recs for a dealership, and she was saying that you can register yourself with the place for like $40... I've never bothered with trying to do it, but gives you an idea of the profit they are making.

[hector]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Want to talk about BS fees, in NJ we have to pay a 0.04% luxury tax on top of the sales tax any car that is 45,000 or more...That is garbage.

but it's for a worthy cause; it goes to pay the medical bills for the governor after he goes flying through the windshield because he wasn't wearing a seat belt and was exceeding the speed limit by 50%(for no good reason).

[1ster]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Want to talk about BS fees, in NJ we have to pay a 0.04% luxury tax on top of the sales tax any car that is 45,000 or more. So, i optioned my 1 out to where i wanted it, checks in at 45,210, so I have to pay it. That is garbage.

Is it .04% of the amount over $45k, or .04% of the total cost of the car?

It's only $180, worst case, but I call :bs:if they charge it on the entire car.