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stevebmw3 · 09-19-2005, 12:18 AM

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=9993

Suprised?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!

Nikki · 09-19-2005, 12:35 AM

where are their stupid is350 specs that everyone was arguing over?

09-19-2005, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevebmw3

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=9993

Suprised?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell no!

CC 330i · 09-19-2005, 02:39 PM

I just drove my friend's TL this weekend. Really a nice car inside, but really was no contest in handling or driving feel. I mean, it wasn't even close! I am typically very fair in comparing cars, and I remember why I didn't get a TL now.

Just cornering and goofing around in a parking lot, I was able to get the front tires on the TL squealing and the car was understeering with very minimal cornering force. The engine is nice in the TL though. Very responsive.

HRC · 09-19-2005, 03:03 PM

All the Acura(probally others too) people are screaming bloody murder. They claim that BMW wins because the editors(all the editors, not just Car & Driver, LOL) are biased, yea biased to good cars! They all hate BMW so much it's scary. I came from being a Honda-only family, and I saw the light, how come they can't?

Danny

lucas.kent · 09-19-2005, 03:23 PM

my favorite line...

"It may be no BMW, but the IS350 is one dandy Lexus."

shuzmaker · 09-19-2005, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HRC

All the Acura(probally others too) people are screaming bloody murder. They claim that BMW wins because the editors(all the editors, not just Car & Driver, LOL) are biased, yea biased to good cars! They all hate BMW so much it's scary. I came from being a Honda-only family, and I saw the light, how come they can't?

Danny

Bingo!

Funny how the editors of C&D ignored all the "malfunctions" in the E90 and gave it 1st.

I too am a Honda fan, and the cars are solid as a rock in terms of reliablity. (I still have 2 Hondas in my garage!)

But I have to say, the 3 sure is FUN to drive!

O, yea, gotta bring back my E90 to the dealer AGAIN next week. DOH!

LEDZEP · 09-19-2005, 06:41 PM

Good article. I never drove a BMW before I test drove the E90. When I got out, I said "now I get it".

09-19-2005, 06:58 PM

Me too, kind of. I rode in my friend's E46 which made me start looking. Also another friend's 530i. I ended up ordering my E90 without ever sitting in one or seeing the color combo I wanted. I just knew what I wanted. There was a time when I "didn't get it." But now I do, and I'll never go back.

CC 330i · 09-20-2005, 12:27 AM

I am curious to see what cars they compare the 325i to.

Nikki · 09-20-2005, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC 330i

I am curious to see what cars they compare the 325i to.

Audi A4 2.0T
Lexus IS250
Volvo S40
Acura TSX
Cadillac CTS
Jaguar X-Type 2.0
Infiniti G35 Sedan
MB C230
Saab 9-3

LEDZEP · 09-20-2005, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC 330i

I am curious to see what cars they compare the 325i to.

Why... inferior ones, of course.

davinet78 · 09-20-2005, 07:08 AM

yes definately inferior ones

stressdoc · 09-20-2005, 09:21 AM

It is strange, checking out the comments on this string like "now I get it"; it was the same thing 30 years ago when I drove my first bimmer (a 1600ti). A different experience from anything else, close to the feel of a Mini Cooper S or a Lotus super 7, but a practical car with room and a view. Not your father's Olds, or in my case, MB 190sl. And it cost me $900 (108k miles used).

txusa03 · 09-20-2005, 10:24 AM

This is my favorite line "But, oh, what a machine!
". I know there are some biases, but who cares. I buy the 330 for these reasons, I like its look the best and I like it dynamic performance the best. Sure I don't like the glitchy software malfunctions. To each his/her own...

Nikki · 09-20-2005, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txusa03

This is my favorite line "But, oh, what a machine!
". I know there are some biases, but who cares. I buy the 330 for these reasons, I like its look the best and I like it dynamic performance the best. Sure I don't like the glitchy software malfunctions. To each his/her own...

Exactly, you have to think of it in terms of a relationship.

Do you want to be with someone who is reliable, but dull and unexciting?

or

Do you want to be with someone who is unpredictable, spontaneous, exciting, and fun?

I sound like a drama-queen hahaha

txusa03 · 09-20-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikki

Exactly, you have to think of it in terms of a relationship.

Do you want to be with someone who is reliable, but dull and unexciting?

or

Do you want to be with someone who is unpredictable, spontaneous, exciting, and fun?

I sound like a drama-queen hahaha

Well, never look at it that way. Since u pointed it out, it has both, it is fun/unpredictable and I guess you can call the glitchy software the drama queen part. In fact, I am like a drama queen (hahaha) when I get those software glitches showing up on my display.

mds82 · 09-20-2005, 11:09 AM

i'm not a fan of that article at all. they ranked the car in 1st places but still bashed every aspect of the car. ever hear of Comfot Access? i dunno, i didnt like it!

E90beemerfan · 09-20-2005, 04:46 PM

I still have'nt experienced any of the problems reported and I can hardly believe how good this car drives. The balance between drivability, comfort and usability is just amazing! I-drive has become a popular topic to criticize amongst test drivers. It might need some time getting used to, but when you can handle it, it's just fantastic. I also love the CA that makes the daily use even better. The E90 is just an amazing car impossible not to love after driving it! My only problem is to stick to the speed limits, even on bad and twisty roads on the west-coast of Norway.

lux.sh · 09-20-2005, 05:11 PM

I have a question.

Does C&D and all the other magazines usually rate BMW/Benz really high
just because they are top german vehicles?

I mean, as a 330i owner, I am VERY proud to see that(expected anyways),
but im just surprised that BMW ALWAYS wins. lol.
Yes, it was annoying when I had japanese vehicles, but now I love it.

Im going to buy the magazine right now...

Nikki · 09-20-2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lux.sh

Im going to buy the magazine right now...

It's from last month's issue, but everything is online on caranddriver.com except for the stats.

Saintor · 09-20-2005, 06:20 PM

Please *take note* that the TL got the best results in handling departement. But in feeling, I agree.

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09-19-2005, 02:39 PM	#4
CC 330i Captain 44 Rep 722 Posts Drives: 330i SG/Blk/Alum Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	I just drove my friend's TL this weekend. Really a nice car inside, but really was no contest in handling or driving feel. I mean, it wasn't even close! I am typically very fair in comparing cars, and I remember why I didn't get a TL now. Just cornering and goofing around in a parking lot, I was able to get the front tires on the TL squealing and the car was understeering with very minimal cornering force. The engine is nice in the TL though. Very responsive.
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HRC MAUI BUILT 485 Rep 7,781 Posts Drives: 2006 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NORCAL iTrader: (10) Garage List 2002 E46 325i [0.00] 2012 E70 35i [0.00]	All the Acura(probally others too) people are screaming bloody murder. They claim that BMW wins because the editors(all the editors, not just Car & Driver, LOL) are biased, yea biased to good cars! They all hate BMW so much it's scary. I came from being a Honda-only family, and I saw the light, how come they can't? Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Illuminated Knob/Alcantara Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" VMR V718's w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Carbon Fiber Spoiler/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Alcantara Boot/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers/BMS Power Box
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lucas.kent Major 143 Rep 1,173 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: AZ iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 [0.00]	my favorite line... "It may be no BMW, but the IS350 is one dandy Lexus."
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LEDZEP Lieutenant General 417 Rep 12,276 Posts Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [7.62] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	Good article. I never drove a BMW before I test drove the E90. When I got out, I said "now I get it". __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious
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09-19-2005, 06:58 PM	#9
CMD Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	Me too, kind of. I rode in my friend's E46 which made me start looking. Also another friend's 530i. I ended up ordering my E90 without ever sitting in one or seeing the color combo I wanted. I just knew what I wanted. There was a time when I "didn't get it." But now I do, and I'll never go back.
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09-20-2005, 12:27 AM	#10
CC 330i Captain 44 Rep 722 Posts Drives: 330i SG/Blk/Alum Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (0)	I am curious to see what cars they compare the 325i to.
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09-20-2005, 07:08 AM	#13
davinet78 Lieutenant Colonel 28 Rep 1,832 Posts Drives: bmw e90 320d Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: gibraltar(europe) iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 bmw 320d E90 [0.00]	yes definately inferior ones __________________ e90 320d,arktis,lumber support, hifi speaker, alarm, dakota beige, 162 18", xenon with washer spray,window chrome trimmings, professional radio, 6 cd changer wood trimmings 6 speed manual.
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09-20-2005, 09:21 AM	#14
stressdoc Moderator 617 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	It is strange, checking out the comments on this string like "now I get it"; it was the same thing 30 years ago when I drove my first bimmer (a 1600ti). A different experience from anything else, close to the feel of a Mini Cooper S or a Lotus super 7, but a practical car with room and a view. Not your father's Olds, or in my case, MB 190sl. And it cost me $900 (108k miles used).
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09-20-2005, 10:24 AM	#15
txusa03 Major General 548 Rep 6,563 Posts Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (3)	This is my favorite line "But, oh, what a machine! ". I know there are some biases, but who cares. I buy the 330 for these reasons, I like its look the best and I like it dynamic performance the best. Sure I don't like the glitchy software malfunctions. To each his/her own...
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09-20-2005, 11:09 AM	#18
mds82 Major General 364 Rep 5,842 Posts Drives: 2006 325xi Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Central Connecticut iTrader: (40) Garage List 2006 325xi Snow Pics [0.00] 2006 BMW 325xi [0.00]	i'm not a fan of that article at all. they ranked the car in 1st places but still bashed every aspect of the car. ever hear of Comfot Access? i dunno, i didnt like it!
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09-20-2005, 04:46 PM	#19
E90beemerfan Private First Class 85 Rep 187 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 SY M3 DCT, 2020 X7 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home iTrader: (0)	I still have'nt experienced any of the problems reported and I can hardly believe how good this car drives. The balance between drivability, comfort and usability is just amazing! I-drive has become a popular topic to criticize amongst test drivers. It might need some time getting used to, but when you can handle it, it's just fantastic. I also love the CA that makes the daily use even better. The E90 is just an amazing car impossible not to love after driving it! My only problem is to stick to the speed limits, even on bad and twisty roads on the west-coast of Norway.
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09-20-2005, 05:11 PM	#20
lux.sh missing two turbos. 577 Rep 4,859 Posts Drives: fast around corners. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Curves iTrader: (12) Garage List 2006 BMW E90 330i [0.00]	I have a question. Does C&D and all the other magazines usually rate BMW/Benz really high just because they are top german vehicles? I mean, as a 330i owner, I am VERY proud to see that(expected anyways), but im just surprised that BMW ALWAYS wins. lol. Yes, it was annoying when I had japanese vehicles, but now I love it. Im going to buy the magazine right now... __________________ 06 AW E90 330i ZPP/ZSP/Step/Expired Warranty : Prior Design Front : ACS Rear : ACS Roof : BlackLines : Simota Intake : Carbon Fiber Interior Trim : : MTEC V3 : 24% Charcoal : V1 Hardwired : Solaris Invisibulbs/LED interior :
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09-20-2005, 06:20 PM	#22
Saintor Banned 79 Rep 2,446 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MTL, Canada iTrader: (1)	Please take note that the TL got the best results in handling departement. But in feeling, I agree.
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