What do you NOT like about the 1 series?

[mackeroni]

Originally Posted by The Wind Breezes

In no particular order...there are probably a bunch I'm forgetting but here are a couple

0) e diff
1) Stock bushings
2) Locked-downedness of stock ECU, TCU and the "non serviceable" DKG box
3) Can't put big tires on it easily
4) Too fucking heavy
5) Engine not really designed for abuse or serious cornering (wet sump, cast crank, needs a lot of cooling upgrades for the track)
6) The turbo is too goddamn small! What the hell, I don't need boost right off idle...
7) Everything costs more than it has to because BMW
8) It has a shitload of stupid electronics that do everything from try to keep you from rotating the car under trail braking to the infamous e-diff. They can all be disabled but really that should be the case once you hold the stupid DSC button down
9) Have to hold the fucking DSC button down for 3 motherfucking seconds to disable traction and stability control!! This is unreal, why the hell do I need to hold the damn thing in when just pressing it should suffice!
10) The car itself costs more than it should, because BMW.
11) Almost no room to work on the turbo.
12) Too much mass in front of the front axle
12.5) Too much mass behind the rear axle
13) All this stupid tracking and coms equipment is in the car by default. Easy to fix, but fuck me.
14) The terribly SHITTY retaining system on the bodywork and undertrays. Why can't companies get this right and make shit that can actually withstand something other than absolutely perfect alignment and support every time without tearing? Oh, right, because then they wouldn't sell as many parts.
15) The dampers are actually pretty good for 99% of of customers but for the rest of us that go to the track, you'd think BMW could offer some ADJUSTABLE (4 way) and REBUILDABLE dampers as a factory option. But no, that's just too fucking much to ask since nobody cares to pay for good damping.
16) Stupid alignment settings and camber adjustment range stock. I get it, the car needs a huge rear negative camber bias to care for idiots but holy shit you'd think a damn sports car would at least support "enthusiast" alignment settings out of the box.
17) The stupid unreliable electric water pump. Great in theory, but the water pump NEEDS TO BE RELIABLE!
18) No lean burn or stratified combustion. Would give some ultra badass fuel economy but no, we can't have it because emissions.

This is a street car that can be driven on a track if you make the right modifications.

This is not a race car that can be driven on the street.

Peace

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by mackeroni

This is a street car that can be driven on a track if you make the right modifications.

This is not a race car that can be driven on the street.

Peace

Agree!!

[The Wind Breezes]

0,1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14,17,18, or in other words, 15 of my 18 points are either directly or solely applicable to driving the car on the street (and doing some casual drag racing therewith) so I dunno what you guys are talking about.

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by beamer135i

Had my 2012 135i for two weeks, here's what I don't like so far:
No factory alarm, no beep when locking doors.
The angel eyes are yellowish not white.
Cupholder under armrest.
Driver's side mirror doesn't adjust when reversing.
Infotainment system not driver friendly.
No coolant system temp gauge.

Is there a thread where we can list the things we love about our beemers?

No beep is annoying, but that it wont flash if you hit it again to check is dumb.

Cup holder makes no sense at all.

Why would you want the driver's side mirror to move? I would like the passenger side one to tilt down.

Coolant temps missing sucks.

A car is a Bimmer, a Beemer is a motorcycle.

The lack of a one touch convertible top is annoying.

No dash light on as the cruise control is on, stupid.

Overall the car (2011 128i Cabriolet) is much nicer than my 05 Merceces CLK 500 was.

[captain slowly]

I like and dislike my car for the same reason-- its a BMW. It's like the hot chick with the STD's

[chris_flies]

I don't like the turn signals too much, they're infuriating when you need to make split-second decisions.

I don't like the OE 128i front bumper, it just looks weird.

I don't like that the kidney grilles aren't integrated into the hood.

I don't like that I don't have an oil temp gauge.

I don't like that it doesn't come with an LSD (eDiff works just fine for me, though).

I don't like the stock suspension (mushy and too understeer-y).

I don't like the cheap plastic knee panels.

I don't like how glossy the dashboard is.

I don't like the cupholders' placement.

I don't like the sound of the chimes.

I don't like the absence of an audible locking/unlocking confirmation.

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by methodz

I love my car. All I would change is the stupid DCT lag when coming to a stop. But I guess you 6MT guys don't need to worry about that one. Oh, and factory LSD would have been nice.

Did you ever get that fixed with the update?

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by chris_flies

I don't like the turn signals too much, they're infuriating when you need to make split-second decisions.

I don't like that I don't have an oil temp gauge.

I don't like the absence of an audible locking/unlocking confirmation.

I agree with those.

[YearOneOne]

Originally Posted by chris_flies

I don't like the turn signals too much, they're infuriating when you need to make split-second decisions.

I don't like the OE 128i front bumper, it just looks weird.

I don't like that the kidney grilles aren't integrated into the hood.

I don't like that I don't have an oil temp gauge.

I don't like that it doesn't come with an LSD (eDiff works just fine for me, though).

I don't like the stock suspension (mushy and too understeer-y).

I don't like the cheap plastic knee panels.

I don't like how glossy the dashboard is.

I don't like the cupholders' placement.

I don't like the sound of the chimes.

I don't like the absence of an audible locking/unlocking confirmation.

Trust me you don't want the lock/unlock beep. I turned it off immediately when I bought my car and got home. It's so loud, I call it the "hey look at me" chime.

[desertman123]

How it keeps nickle & diming me every time I'm about to buy a mod.

[Zombie_Head]

BMW stopped making LSDs on their non M cars 15+ years ago.

Recently, with the F20 series introduction, it became available as a "M Performance" option, and an expensive one.

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by Zombie_Head

BMW stopped making LSDs on their non M cars 15+ years ago.

Recently, with the F20 series introduction, it became available as a "M Performance" option, and an expensive one.

Yes & it’s just idiotic that it’s not an option on the e series cars

[asiflicious]

Suspension, suspension, suspension. Really, the stock m sport suspension (including the bushings) is awful. I also hate the cup holders on the non I drive cars and the arm rest is ridiculous with it's cheap material and pathetic storage space. Why they didn't keep the e9x arm rest baffles me

[iminhell1]

Much of this thread isn't really shortcomings of the car, just insight that the car wasn't the correct choice for your goals/wants.
I'd say the majority of us have a desire to personalize our car. If that's making it a street/strip car, auto-x car, road race car or just something fun, all can be done with proper modifications. There is no such thing as the perfect do everything car, to think there is is ignorance.

The car was made to satisfy a very broad range of driving and drivers while giving them a higher degree of enjoyment than a Camry of the same generation. And I'd say it satisfys that quite well.

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by YearOneOne

Trust me you don't want the lock/unlock beep. I turned it off immediately when I bought my car and got home. It's so loud, I call it the "hey look at me" chime.

Does it use the horn, or a separate horn like speaker? It is easy to quiet a separate horn without making it silent.

Also, where do you turn it off?

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by iminhell1

Much of this thread isn't really shortcomings of the car, just insight that the car wasn't the correct choice for your goals/wants.
I'd say the majority of us have a desire to personalize our car. If that's making it a street/strip car, auto-x car, road race car or just something fun, all can be done with proper modifications. There is no such thing as the perfect do everything car, to think there is is ignorance.

The car was made to satisfy a very broad range of driving and drivers while giving them a higher degree of enjoyment than a Camry of the same generation. And I'd say it satisfys that quite well.

Agreed. 95% of buyers are fine with the basics, especially the performance parts. For me, I would hate a stiffer suspension. I had it in my Saturn Sky Redline and it handled great, but basically sucked as a commuter.

[chris_flies]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Does it use the horn, or a separate horn like speaker? It is easy to quiet a separate horn without making it silent.

Also, where do you turn it off?

It's a separate speaker, so you could probably quiet it with a resistor, etc. But the whole alarm system was a factory option, and a number of fairly difficult-to-access parts you'd need to install to retrofit it.

[JimVonBaden]

Originally Posted by chris_flies

It's a separate speaker, so you could probably quiet it with a resistor, etc. But the whole alarm system was a factory option, and a number of fairly difficult-to-access parts you'd need to install to retrofit it.

I wouldn't bother. I was just curious about the horn set-up.

[chris_flies]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

I wouldn't bother. I was just curious about the horn set-up.

Yeah, I'd rather spend the time and money on important things, like orange trim wrap!

[YearOneOne]

Originally Posted by JimVonBaden

Does it use the horn, or a separate horn like speaker? It is easy to quiet a separate horn without making it silent.

Also, where do you turn it off?

I wanna say it's a loud chirp like the f series+ but I don't even remember honestly

[kb2wji]

The radio display literally vanishes if it gets above 70 degrees. (Or when the heat is on in the winter). What the hell?

The radio buzzes and hisses even with the car off / key out. What the hell?

The steering wheel rim blocks the top of my gauges when I have it positioned where I want it.

No temperature gauge. What the hell?

Unreliable water pump

Very little engine / exhaust noise (I really need the performance exhaust)

No oil dipstick drives me nuts.

The battery. I mean, why? The whole setup seems so ridiculously over-engineered.

Having to click the volume up/down button on the steering wheel 600 times to make any noticeable difference in volume.

I dont hate it, but I think its ridiculous to have the air circulation button on the steering wheel. What's the point?

That said, it's a fun car and I dig it

[chris_flies]

Originally Posted by kb2wji

The radio display literally vanishes if it gets above 70 degrees. (Or when the heat is on in the winter). What the hell?

No temperature gauge. What the hell?

Unreliable water pump

Very little engine / exhaust noise (I really need the performance exhaust)

The battery. I mean, why? The whole setup seems so ridiculously over-engineered.

That said, it's a fun car and I dig it

I hate the disappearing pixels, but they really only have issues when it's approaching 90 degrees outside.

It isn't the 'Performance 1'er', so BMW didn't include it. Or even the dinky instant MPG gauge on the E90s. I have a thread on Gauge swaps for newbies, mostly just me asking for information (no one wants to be helpful) on swapping-in a 135i cluster.

The water pump is reliable, it's just something that wears out after time...

I should make a DIY on my spaced intake air box, it makes an insane amount of noise, and a really good noise at that!

The battery system is merely an annoyance, but Carly can do it for the cost of the adapter, app, and the In-App Purchase to code the battery, which is much less expensive than the dealer... It all has its purpose, though.