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well, before 17 year olds get all mad and all, my post topic said 17 year old drivers....THAT SUCK AT DRIVING, if you are 17 and you do NOT suck at driving then i do not hate you, so calm yourself and stop getting so defensive, it is specifically targeted at those that suck at driving but the truth of the matter is, IS that most 17 year olds are inexperienced and are more cocky about recently getting their license, so more often than not i am wary of teenage drivers.
btw, i appreciate all your support and all, i need to get an estimate and the insurance guy said pending a police report, it appears that i will be getting 100% reimbursed for the accident, i guess the bright side of things are 1) no one got hurt, and 2) i get a free car wash at least and a new clear coat applied |
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I fail to see what relevance the finance source of a car is to this discussion
I was given a nice car at 17, and 2 years on, I'm accident-free, so the generalisation you were attempting to make is falsified, cosmosblau You would be singing a different tune if you were younger. I can hardly see the manager of an insurance firm saying "the driving age should be 21" when he's raking in millions of dollars on premiums for under 21 policies. |
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12-15-2005, 08:26 PM | #49 | |
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I believe that the financial provider of the car is relavant in this discussion because there is no way that a child who is given a car by daddy would be as responsible as someone who has earned the money for it themselves. When you know daddy will swoop in and fix all your dents, hire your lawyer, and buy you another $40,000 toy if needed, how can your actions have the same weight as someone who is fiscally responsible? Nothing has any value unless you earn it yourself.
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Same remark as shimshimhada
Couldn't really give a damn what I do with my own money, because I know I got more of it coming in at the next pay check But wasting the hard earned money that some other pour soul, especially my parents, have struggled to save up and buy me a '40K toy' is something I would feel very guilty about |
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I suspect the parents aren't 'struggling' to buy the toy, and the kids appreciate it even less.
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not totally true. my friend henry got a toyota highlander with everyyy upgrade imaginable and it came out to 40k-ish and he has neverrr been in an accident. not only that-- but he alsotakes care of his car more than anyone i know. most kids who buy their car at 17 cant afford nice cars anyway so they buy ugly cars and ram it into random objects and not car ebecause its ugly in the first place.. so if i were you, id rather be driving near a kid who had their parents buy them a car over a kid who bought himself a car he could care less about |
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Vanity polishing, no? I'm sure he polishes a BRAND NEW CAR. That doesn't make him a responsible driver. "most kids who buy their car at 17 cant afford nice cars anyway so they buy ugly cars and ram it into random objects " This proves the title of the thread exactly. edit:Sorry to rant Enroutte. Nothing personal. I just have a daughter that is growing up fast and my fatherly instincts are going crazy...
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I still disagree. You see, my point of view is based on experience. I was a rich kid who's daddy bought him a nice car (not a BMW, but a new Jeep.) And I thought it had great value to me. I thought I was grateful. After I smacked it up a few times, and daddy paid of course, I moved on to sneaking out in his Porsches, despite his forbidding me to do so. Since college, I have not received a dime from my family, and everything I own I have earned myself. I had no idea! There is a HUGE difference in how I value my possessions now. You must try it some time! Quote:
Poor people may not be well educated or even very bright, but they generally know the value of money. They know that the heap they bought to get them from A to B is a BIG DEAL, and that they feel fortunate to even have any car at all. Of couse, there are exceptions, but I believe these points to be generally true. I know this forum is largely populated by spoiled little rich kids, and they feel the need to justify their bourgeois guilt- I understand. They certainly do not want to hear about how their brains aren't even fully developed enough to be good drivers. When I was a teen, I thought that I was the greatest driver this side of Juan Fangio. I thought I knew everything, and my point of view was the only possible correct view- what more could adults know? Since then, I have learned with time comes experience, that life is precious, and everyone experiences life differently.
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Cosmoblau - great words of wisdom!
I don't have anything personal against young people who are privileged, but I then the odds are stacked against them being able to develop into responsible adults with grounded values. Just like growing up poor and underprivileged is no excuse for criminal behavior (and you can all leave right now if you think it is), growing up rich is no excuse for being an asshole. At some point you must take responsibility for your life and they way you interact with others.
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I agree to an extent with all of you guys, but i really thikn the bad/good driver also plays a role in where you live. Everyone at my school has nice cars and hardly anyone ever gets into an accident. And you gusy are right, some kids arent thankful for anything because their parents buy them everything but there are definitely still kids with shitty cars who drive horrible. there's this guy at my school who drives like an 88 civic and the thing SMOKESSSS when you start up the engine and back out. he doesnt brake when he drives over speedbumps and just drives recklessly in general.
from what I HAVE seen i still believe kids with uglier cars are less careful in general. my best friend has like a 98 mustang and shes NOT careful with it at all. she figures its so old anyway that its not going to matter. maybe the kids i hang out with who have old cars all had a uncaring mentality to begin with - even before they got the cars. |
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