402 H.P. 2010 BMW 135i

[SQ5]

What would that car put to the wheels? I agree, no M badge on a non M car no matter how fast it is or how many M parts it has.

[miamie92m3]

I'm actually getting a 2011 135i M-sport for my wife, but it will have a proper transmission (manual that is) so I have nothing to rag on here. Its an awesome little car. However, I can personally say that I have dusted a dinan tuned 400 hp 1 in my M3, which has minor mods. The 135i Dinan car is no way even close to 911 territory and I'm talking regular 997. All the cars you mention are in a completely other league. I also have nothing bad to say about Dinan since I'm running their suspension on my M3 and its great. Don't compare apples with oranges.

[DBFIU]

Come to the meets dude.

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by miamie92m3

However, I can personally say that I have dusted a dinan tuned 400 hp 1 in my M3, which has minor mods.

That says nothing though. I've kept up with stock M3's a few times in my car (along with a newer E55 AMG and SRT-10), which doesn't really say much either. So many variables at play.

[adrean8j]

Originally Posted by miamie92m3

However, I can personally say that I have dusted a dinan tuned 400 hp 1 in my M3, which has minor mods. The 135i Dinan car is no way even close to 911 territory and I'm talking regular 997.

LOL....."dusted" is relative....an M3 does not "dust" a tuned 135i until it hits about 90-95mph...and even then it is not a dusting.....LOL...

[pompano1000]

Originally Posted by jaehshim

good tuning, but i'd rather do tht on a 6MT.
really don't like the phrases "XXX can eat XXX for breakfast" comments...i mean i'm pretty sure someone's ek9 civic turbo with K20 motor can eat your 135i for night snack...
nice clean tuning though

Apples, oranges or bananas... even Porsche stock 911's don't come close! Modified and tuned to peak at approximately 428 h.p. My car will jump 5 car lenghts... just off the line dusting an M3!

[Dannys M3]

All this talk of approximately 428 hp. Wheres the dyno sheets?

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by pompano1000

Apples, oranges or bananas... even Porsche stock 911's don't come close! Modified and tuned to peak at approximately 428 h.p. My car will jump 5 car lenghts... just off the line dusting an M3!

Where are you getting these numbers?! A Dinan tune doesn't produce anywhere CLOSE to 428Hp.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

Where are you getting these numbers?! A Dinan tune doesn't produce anywhere CLOSE to 428Hp.

Sounds like a high school kid... Not worth wasting your breath.

[DustinDep]

i think someone must be adding up wat the box says on his performance parts to get 428 lol

[BSM 335I]

Lmao at the ones bashing on the step. W/e whine all you want, see you at the finish line.

[miamie92m3]

not bashing the 1 at all. Just got a 2011 135i manual coupe for the wife. (Thats right a women even drives a manual) M-sport, BMW performance suspension and performance exhaust. Car sounds great and is a real blast to drive. I am bashing the steptronic though. How hard is it to put your foot down and just go? Its lacking soul in my opinion. A proper drivers car has 3 pedals. Thats just my opinion...... I will tell you this. from the clutch to the steering and everything else its lacking the sharp responsive feel that only an M car has. No matter how much hp you put in the 1 it will never give the same driver feedback and visceral experience that even a stock out of the box M3 can deliver. Again, thats my opinion. Having said that I really do love the 135i alot. I'm going to steal it from my wife tomorrow.

[BForbes]

Alrighty folks, lets inject a little bit of numbers from "official" tests. CarandDriver tested a Dinan Stage 3 car with all the goodies:

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...d9655cf548.pdf

According to their numbers it does not "dust" an M3, especially one with an M-DCT.

Compare the numbers to a 6MT M car and DCT M:

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...49021fcf2c.pdf

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...49021fcf2c.pdf

With its extra 140lb of torque it still does not pass the M3 well into triple digits. I don't look down on anybody that mods their 1/3 series. It simply does not anihilate/dust/kill etc. an M3 in terms of acceleration or handle. Especially one with a capable driver. These tuned cars have a stronger midrange no doubt but not dramatic enough to perpetuate the results we keep hearing. I've been in a few and they do an excellent job of making the car feel different than stock.

[BSM 335I]

Originally Posted by miamie92m3

not bashing the 1 at all. Just got a 2011 135i manual coupe for the wife. (Thats right a women even drives a manual) M-sport, BMW performance suspension and performance exhaust. Car sounds great and is a real blast to drive. I am bashing the steptronic though. How hard is it to put your foot down and just go? Its lacking soul in my opinion. A proper drivers car has 3 pedals. Thats just my opinion...... I will tell you this. from the clutch to the steering and everything else its lacking the sharp responsive feel that only an M car has. No matter how much hp you put in the 1 it will never give the same driver feedback and visceral experience that even a stock out of the box M3 can deliver. Again, thats my opinion. Having said that I really do love the 135i alot. I'm going to steal it from my wife tomorrow.

first off I was referring to this post.

Originally Posted by ianc

Nice car, until I saw it's an automatic lol...

ianc

second off, your right it isn't hard at all to step on the gas and breaks record times that people with the 6mt (yes including your wife which is a woman as you mentioned earlier) can't seem to achieve. Now please understand my fisty reply, but after reading that you are in fact bashing on the step has lead me to believe that you have clearly have not had enough time behind the wheel of one. While in the end yes I won't have the task of switching through the gears, I can assure you the connection between the car and driver is still there and any one who owns a step will tell you it's a blast to drive still. See before this car I had a 335i 6mt and it was a blast to drive, though a good deal and 30min test drive led me to get the step. Now while I am happy with the step, I will agree that a true sports car will always have 3 pedals.

[pompano1000]

Originally Posted by jayson

Good man. Looking forward to new pics!

You're right, the de-badged look is the way to go!

[C4747Z]

Hey, did you end up selling ur RFTs?

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by GoGeo

I love the horsepower races, especially when they are internet based...I've owned, until recently, a 675 horsepower 930 and a couple of years back, a 996 TT amongst many Porsches, BMWs, etc. I am going to let you in in a little secret that makes our 135i's the perfect cars. In my TT, things got interesting north of 140, in my 930...well, things were always interesting but it ate tires for breakfast and ready for maintenance for lunch. Our 135's are fun, absolutely unsettled, and a great driver's car at 30, 70 or 120 mph. The 135 delivers in every category!

If you purchase a 135 so that you can go faster than a P-car or an M3, you simply purchased the wrong car. An M3 coming around a corner at 90 mph feels like you're sitting on your sofa, zero drama. I don't care how fast you can get your 135, things get way too interesting early on to really make it a contender.

After having said that, I love my 135i...you can go past me in whatever it is that you're driving. I have zero interests in beating anyone in a race, I want to feel the car, I want to feel the revs and I want to feel...the road!!!!! The 135i doesn't truly have a competitor in driving pleasure.

With this logic, why not just buy something even slower that becomes "unsettled" even sooner? I'm thinking you bought the wrong car as well if that's what you're after.

[TreDirtyFive]

I'm willing to bet it paces an M3 but by no means will "eat it for breakfast" and don't even talk about the handling as you will lose your lunch and your house. But, otherwise, very nice looking ride.

[madostrich]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

With this logic, why not just buy something even slower that becomes "unsettled" even sooner? I'm thinking you bought the wrong car as well if that's what you're after.

I think the man is telling you that he bought exactly what he wanted. I get his point: There are too many people on these forums who wish they could drive an exotic, a Porsche, or even an M3. But, they can't. Instead, they buy as much as they can afford, and then save their pennies to buy mods in the hopes that they can 'beat' their dream car when they are driving next to it.

Admit it, most 135i buyers are new to BMW.... While I don't believe in gambling, I'd bet money that many people are moving from say, a WRX, an EVO, a 350z.... into a 128/135i and bringing that same 'dude let's see how fast thing thing goes' mentality to it.

when it comes to production cars, there are maybe 2-3 cars that can keep up with an M3.... anything can go fast on a staight line, but the magic of the M3 is the balance of power and handling.... STOCK is better than 99.9%

Finally, IMO the only thing that would trump the statement above will be the M-badged 1 series.

[Jai2008]

Originally Posted by pompano1000

Apples, oranges or bananas... even Porsche stock 911's don't come close! Modified and tuned to peak at approximately 428 h.p. My car will jump 5 car lenghts... just off the line dusting an M3!

You have an entry level BMW, that is a Porsche 911......
You can beat it in a drag race but..... $100k > $40k car.....

I'll trade my "tuned" 1 for a 911 or M3 any day of the week......

[fatjoez]

Lose the lip spoiler too, it's ugly

[Irishace]

You really should put the car on a dyno to end all the chatter.