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08-02-2011, 11:59 AM | #1 |
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Great Article
http://www.bimmer-mag.com/issues/101...ndling-machine
I recommend 128i owners specifically to read it. Thanks.
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08-02-2011, 12:26 PM | #3 |
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Nice article. Glad to see it points out the rear subframe bushings as being a big weakness in the stock setup. Too many people dismiss them due to the install cost.
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08-02-2011, 12:48 PM | #4 |
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I really enjoyed that article. Makes you think about the old days when cars didn't have that much power but were still a lot of fun to work in the corners.
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08-02-2011, 01:36 PM | #5 |
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Yes! I am sure alot of people miss e36 M3, which is very similar to 128i in alot of perspective. I am glad I have both!
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08-02-2011, 03:31 PM | #6 |
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good article.. thx for sharing
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08-03-2011, 10:45 AM | #8 |
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So is he basically suggesting the TC Kline coilover kit or is he suggesting simply Koni Yellows and springs at the suggested loads in the article, disregarding the subframe bushings at this point. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but this article makes me really want to pursue this upgrade.
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08-03-2011, 11:05 AM | #9 |
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i'm sure you could try to replicate his setup with basic info from the article, but it wouldn't be the same because tck valves his konis specifically for the spring and chassis. that's really what makes the difference.
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08-03-2011, 11:14 AM | #10 |
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im sure if you emailed the guy or something he would give you the kit xD
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08-03-2011, 12:35 PM | #13 |
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A good article and all but if you're going to compare to the 1M then they should have included some real world comparison numbers. I realize its down alot in the hp/tq numbers but to see how they go head to head with each other some skid pad and slalom data should have be provided.
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08-03-2011, 03:52 PM | #15 |
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I wonder a little if the conversation I had with TC at last years O-fest had anything to do with him building this car. I don’t have TCs experience or bank roll, but I agree entirely with his school of thought on suspension setup. But I’m going a slightly different route with my car.
Last summer when my car was being put back together from the accident, I had the rear sub-frame bushings redone and it made a major different in the car, especially when I slide the car. When the sub-frame was pulled out, you could see where it had been moving around and rubbing on other metal parts. We looked into using the M3 bushings, but we found that they are installed in reverse from the stock bushings and there wouldn’t be any hard stop preventing the sub-frame from working down off of the bushings. What we did was take new stock bushings and filling the hollow areas with polyurethane. This took a lot of give out of the bushings. I’m planning on going with Koni sport shocks and camber plates, but staying with the stock springs. In the article they quoted TC saying that with a street car they would stay with a rear spring rate that was about the same as stock. That would leave you with just having to up the front spring rate. For that I’m going to use a stiffer front sway bar to increase the effective spring rate when cornering and leaving it lower in strait driving. One thing that the writer didn’t really call out was the fact that the car was switched to a square tire setup instead of the factory staggered combo. That would definitely given the car more turn-in. Something I find weird though is TC talks about saving weight and puts heavy 19” wheels on the car. Wide 17” or 18” wheels would be a lighter combination. The writer didn’t he bring up that the car was lowered from the stock ride height ether.
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Until recently, my 128 was pretty much same as TCs 128 with 1 difference. I got a lil heavier springs. 400#F 600#R. Then got my e36 M3 as track car, and returned 128 to bone stock. There is really no point of having an adjustable suspension on a DD that I make 126miles a day I had Breyton GTS-Rs. TCK camber plates, TCK double adjustable. 235-40-R18 Yoko AD08 square setup rubber. The reason that makes me love my both cars are they are not HP crazy machines, still quick and nimble enough. At track it pushes you to perfect your line to make it a fast car. Only issue I have is; I just wish both cars were 100-150lbs less as stock but oh well!
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